Sarah Moyle – Sean Penn Phoned Me

The Transcript:

Hello and welcome to the Get Shirty podcast, the podcast where we ask our guests about the things in life that just never fail to irritate and gets them all shirty. The chat focuses on home, work and going out, but could go anywhere. And it’s not all doom and gloom as each guest gets a made to measure shirt, which they design, so we talk about that, too. It’s funny that us being tailors. Our guest this episode is the award winning actress Sarah Moyle. Sarah is possibly best known for playing Valerie Pitman in over 900 episodes of the BBC soaked Doctors. It’s actually an incredible 938, to be precise. many will also know Sarah for playing a character in a comedy show within a comedy show, which was in extras. She’s also starred in stage productions in both the West End and on Broadway. If you’ve ever looked at her instagram, she also does a pretty mean catwalk walk, too. Did I say that right? We talk about acting flatmate and the horrors of sneaky developers, amongst other things, as well as tailoring the shirt for Sarah, too.

Welcome to Git shirty podcast. Do you want to talk about your upcoming shirt

Here we go, then. One guest, two mics, three tailors, and a host of irritations. Let’s get shirted. Welcome to the Git shirty podcast.

>> Sarah Moyle: Thank you very much for having me.

>> Stuart H: That’s a pleasure. We’ve, just gone through designing your shirt. Do you want to sort of talk about it, or should we leave it as a surprise for when?

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, let’s just say I’m very, very excited. And I think it’s quite classic. Yeah, it’s quite, not, you know, normally, I think normally people might think my style is a bit quirky, but this, I think, is going to be grown up.

>> Stuart H: Classic. Yeah, I think it is grown up.

>> Sarah Moyle: Although I did ask for some tassels on it, didn’t I?

>> Stuart H: Yeah. And they are going on fringe. We’re going to put fringe everywhere.

>> Sarah Moyle: I just want to look like a cowgirl.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, well, who doesn’t? We’ve all been there and we’re. I have to say, I’m, really quite excited to know it’s going to feature in one of your catwalks, your hallway.

>> Sarah Moyle: Catwalk, absolutely.

>> Stuart H: Well, not just hallway, actually, are they?

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, no, they’ve gone out into the real world as well. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: So what started those?

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, I should explain. I should explain to people. I live in a flat in London, and I happen to have. It’s a very long thing, flat, and I happen to have a long corridor. And when we went into lockdown, I had a lodger Charlotte and she and I decided that if we weren’t careful, we were going to end up wearing leggings and t shirts every day for the next six months. And I said, no, we can’t do that. Also, we need a project. So we decided that we’d do a catwalk once a day upon a theme.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: And, so we started off gently, sort of coming up with our own themes. And then friends of ours started suggesting themes because, of course, we were posting them online and it just. It really took off. And I would say it’s what got me through lockdown, really. Because every morning we had a project, we had something to do. And of course it had to be things we could find in our wardrobes. We had to be inventive. we then started doing film themes. So we did Thelma and Louise, we did Titanic, we did Jaws. I think that was one of my favourites. and eventually poor old Charlotte went, I’ve had enough of you on nonsense. Please may I stop? And I was like, yes, yes, probably. And this was, you know, we started when we first went into lockdown. And this was July, so we’d been at it for quite a long time, almost exhausted.

Have you got a favourite drag queen? I have. Have you got any superhero names

>> Stuart H: So have you got a favourite? What was your favourite?

>> Sarah Moyle: What was my favourite?

>> Stuart H: Were you just a. Jaws.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, I’ve got.

>> Stuart H: Seen the jaws one.

>> Sarah Moyle: Actually. Jaws was a favourite. I think superheroes, we did with capes and with the hair dryers.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: So we had billowing capes.

>> Stuart H: Right, right. Okay, good.

>> Sarah Moyle: That. When I say capes, it was my fluorescent sort of poncho that I used for cycling. Things like that.

>> Stuart H: and what was your superhero name?

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, I don’t know if I had a. I think my. My, drag name would be whiskey pepper. So, maybe. Or my stripper name. I don’t know which something. Well, a bit both, but, yeah.

>> Stuart H: Your drag stripper name?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: What was it? Whiskey pepper.

>> Sarah Moyle: Whiskey pepper, yeah. My first pet and my mum’s maiden name.

>> Stuart H: that one. That old chestnut that make me, spike hemming.

>> Sarah Moyle: Which sounds quite good. Sounds like a boxing promoter.

>> Stuart H: I want to say something maybe. Yeah. Yeah, well, let’s go with that. I was taking it a less polite route, so. Yeah, let’s go with that. I’ll call it, Yeah, so, yeah, well, that’s not a bad superhero name, I would say.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think it’s a. It’s a better drag, actually. No, a better drag name I came up with was polytunnels, which works on many different levels.

>> Stuart H: And that’s not taken already.

>> Sarah Moyle: No, no. I mean, it may have. I’ve been talking about it for years, so maybe someone’s gone.

>> Stuart H: They’re getting quite inventive.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. I need to think harder about my superhero name.

>> Stuart H: Ah, yeah, yeah. Because you’ve been to a dragcon. RuPaul’s dragon.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes. Yes, I have.

>> Stuart H: We went to the first. It wasn’t RuPaul’s dragcon then. It was. I can’t remember what it was, but it was somewhere over Olympia that was really good. There was quite a lot of the big stars.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. I’m a big fan, I have to say.

>> Stuart H: Have you got any. Have you got a favourite drag queen?

>> Sarah Moyle: I have. I do. Changed recently, because recently I have had the good fortune to see this particular drag queen a couple of times. And she’s a friend of a friend of mine, and she is phenomenal. And her name is Mary Mack.

>> Stuart H: Right. Okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: And she, blows my mind. She’s funny, she looks stunning, but her singing voice is also incredible. Yeah, she’s my favourite.

>> Stuart H: The sort of triple threat, something like. Isn’t that right, Steve?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes, absolutely.

>> Stuart H: Sing, dance, act, every. Ah, course. You sing as well, don’t you sing?

>> Sarah Moyle: I kind of do. I would say I can sing, but I wouldn’t want to listen to it, usually.

>> Stuart H: Really?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. I would say, of the three threats, that’s my least threatening.

>> Stuart H: That’s a vague, vaguely argumentative.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. Belt out a tune. And I’ve done. I have done musicals.

>> Stuart H: I was gonna say, I thought sort of in doing my research, I thought I’d seen that you’d done it.

>> Sarah Moyle: I have done musicals, but I always say to people, I got into musicals in the early years when all you had to do to get a job was be a nice person and a good company member.

>> Stuart H: Right. Okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: Nowadays, I think they actually require you to have talent as well, which,

All the musicals I did seemed to require cheery cocksney singing

Yeah. And all the musicals I did seem to require cheery cockney singing.

>> Stuart H: All right. Okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: Which I can do. I can do that.

>> Stuart H: It was my fair lady. You did.

>> Sarah Moyle: I was in my fair lady. I did Oliver.

>> Speaker C: Oliver.

>> Sarah Moyle: Or owe my liver, as we used to call it, because we drank a lot. But I also did les mis, which wouldn’t, on the face of it, seem like cherry cockney singing, but lovely ladies is same. Similar style. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: I think musical theatre is one of those things. I really enjoy going to see it, and it’s one of those things I look at and think, I’d love to do something like that. The actual reality of remembering words is not my strong point.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, it’s a special skill.

Get shirtyes podcast focuses on things in life which we find slightly irritating

>> Stuart H: Just to sort of bring it round to the get shirty format, which is very loose at times during this podcast. But essentially part of what we talk about is the things in life which we find slightly irritating.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes.

>> Stuart H: And we focus those around work, home, going out. We always start with work. So if there’s and we spoke to a friend of yours recently,

>> Sarah Moyle: James, very good friend of mine.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. And he, straight off the bat he said, well, I don’t really get irritated. And I thought, oh, that’s not going to work.

>> Sarah Moyle: That’s going to be a very short podcast.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, we’ll just have to.

>> Sarah Moyle: Thank you.

>> Speaker C: We had to prod him a bit. We prodded him and he did him angry.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, it’s the big long pointy sticker.

>> Speaker C: That’S come on, finger something, figure something.

>> Stuart H: so yeah, we generally start with work, but you know, are you sort of, in general, do you get irritated? Are you sort of easily irritable?

>> Sarah Moyle: No, I think I’m quite laid back. But that said, there are things that wind me up.

>> Stuart H: Oh, are they?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Okay, so you’re not totally serene.

>> Sarah Moyle: What I love about get shirtyes is that I think there’s levels. And if you say to me, oh, that makes me a bit shirty, that makes me feel like that’s pretty, that’s low level irritation. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: it’s even irritation, it’s sort of niggly.

>> Sarah Moyle: It’s sort of, oh, and yes, of course I do have those. I think I’m rarely very angry, but has been known, of course. Am I human?

>> Stuart H: Yeah, I think we all get there. There’s always something. I think, you know, I’m not a particularly good driver in terms of I get irritated quite quickly with driving. That’s me.

The first thing that irritates me about punctuality is work

So work though. What about work? Are there work?

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, ironically, what I’m going to say, the first thing that irritates me is, punctuality. And the reason I’m saying it’s ironic is because I was a few moments late.

>> Stuart H: Well, and we wouldn’t have even mentioned.

>> Sarah Moyle: It, but normally I am person who would rather be an hour early, than, be 1 minute late. And I was a good five minutes late this morning because in my defence, I was listening to one of your podcasts and not listening to the sat nav.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: And I went wrong and went 20 miles out of it.

>> Stuart H: Well, then you must have left in pretty good time to even get here.

>> Sarah Moyle: Because I’m an early person. I worked with a director, once upon a time, who always used to say, early is on time, on time is late, and late is unacceptable. And that stuck with me. Yeah, see, and I think what really, gets my goat is particularly, in a work situation, when you’re rehearsing or when you’re on set and you’ve got time limits. And I find it so disrespectful to be standing around waiting for one person who it always feels like, why is your time more important than our time? Or why do you not respect us? And, this whole process enough to be here to do the work on time? And also, I think that saying is true. It’s like you can’t just walk onto a set or walk into a rehearsal and just go, you need to be in the zone and prepared. Which is why I’m probably excessively early. my friends don’t like going on holiday with me because I have to be at the airport like 2 hours, three days before the flight. But, you know, it’s lovely. I’ve been shopping.

>> Stuart H: The listener won’t have seen Stu, our colleague. It sort of punched the air in delight because a kindred spirit. M stu’s an early person, and me.

>> Sarah Moyle: Too, but I was.

>> Stuart H: But also, I’m really not an early person. I’m a late person.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, are you? Oh, are you?

>> Stuart H: Yeah. Not intentionally, but if there is. If ever a phrase would apply to somebody would be, that’s okay, I’ve still got time. That’s me.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, you see, I will, like, err on the side of safety at all times. There’s, there’s a comedian, he used to do a gag about early and late people, and his thing was early people go, oh, we need to be there in an hour. I better leave in five minutes. And a late person be like, oh, we need to be there in two minutes. I think I’ll paint the front room.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

>> Sarah Moyle: And that’s, that’s, that’s what it is. That’s me.

>> Stuart H: I’m a front room painter for sure.

>> Sarah Moyle: Whereas I’m, Yeah. Yeah, let’s prepare.

>> Stuart H: Well, I quite often get told that something starts earlier than it actually starts, so that I will leave.

>> Sarah Moyle: That’s very sensible.

>> Stuart H: Yes.

>> Sarah Moyle: And I, and I understand, you know, life gets in the way. People get distracted and go the wrong way around the m 25 if they’re me.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: People have kids. It’s unpredictable. Transport is unpredictable, but in general, it’s, if someone’s perpetually let you go, you’re doing something wrong.

>> Stuart H: Clever people build it in that time for things to go wrong. They think about it and go well just in case I’ll leave extra early.

>> Sarah Moyle: That’s what I did the same. That’s what you do and that’s what.

>> Stuart H: Stu does as well and that’s what So yeah it is. I do. The thing is being somebody who’s always late but. Well no, it always is a bit strong actually. If it’s. If I know it’s important, I will. You know I do try and build maybe as late I won’t be as late. Yeah, less late as somebody who is generally on the limit of being late or very close to it. I am aware of how frustrating it must be for people but I can’t seem to change my behaviour to make it so. I don’t like inconvenienced people. But Every time I’m convinced that it will be different I’ll be on time this time and I’ve definitely left enough time this time.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think there’s definitely a gene, isn’t there? There’s definitely an early person gene and a late person gene. But I think it particularly makes me angry in a work setting when there’s stuff to be done and it affects.

>> Stuart H: So many people, especially in your situation, you know, in your Sort of career. When there’s so many people who have set up cameras, lights, catering. There’s lots of people who are dependent on the people being there to do the things that they’re meant to do. The higher up the chain someone is, are they more likely to be late or more likely to be early or do you think. You know, so like are the big stars later do you think?

>> Sarah Moyle: In my experience, yeah, that can, that can. That has been the case.

>> Stuart H: I won’t ask you to name names.

>> Sarah Moyle: I can only think of one which I might mention later. But And I’m going to say something terrible now, but the youngsters these days who are up and coming in the business seem to be a lot more Slack is this sounds like relaxed about timing.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, that’s interesting. Do you think that’s the sort of the way the industry’s gone or do you think that’s more typical of youth today?

I do think the industry has changed a lot regarding mental health

>> Sarah Moyle: Well I sound like a grumpy old lady. Don’t say this. I do think it is a little bit and this may be another thing that makes me a bit shirty at work is I do think the industry has changed a lot and I think there’s very much an emphasis on making sure everyone’s okay and looking after everybody and which is great, we do need that because I think when I was first in it, you know, mental health was not an issue that was dealt with or addressed or even spoke about at all, not spoken about at all. And it certainly wasn’t connected to what we do, which can be stressful and weird. but I think there’s the flip side of that, that people then take advantage of the fact that oh, we’re so gonna hold your hand and take care of you and everybody becomes a bit fragile and a bit like can’t stand on their own 2ft or make sure they get to work on time without being given.

>> Stuart H: And I suppose as well being slightly unkind to some people, there’s probably people who are aware of that and then utilise it to their. Oh, it’s all right, I’ll say, yeah, I hate.

>> Sarah Moyle: I don’t like to say that but yeah, I think that can happen. I do think it can happen and I’ve sort of witnessed it.

>> Stuart H: Oh really?

>> Sarah Moyle: I must say it sounds like I’m making a blanket statement about all young people, which is absolutely not the case. And I. This time last year I was working on a show, touring a play and there were three people in their twenties in the show. I loved these three people. Like, I couldn’t say they were professional, they were brilliant at their jobs, they cared about their job. I fed off their energy and their enthusiasm and they were absolutely wonderful. So I must emphasise strongly that I don’t mean no, but when I encounter it, it makes me cross.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah and that’s. I think that’s a valid git shirt. No, it didn’t. It certainly didn’t come across as you were labelling all of the youth of Tibet.

>> Sarah Moyle: Everyone’s awful workshop.

>> Stuart H: No, but I sort of, I totally get that. And yeah so look, from a work point of view there, I think they’re fair. Ah, you know, they’re good things to be shirted out.

Developers are building a block of flats behind a London flat

What about home? Have you got home?

>> Sarah Moyle: I do have a major niggle at the moment at home.

>> Stuart H: Oh, do you?

>> Sarah Moyle: Which is not so much making me shirty but making me slightly devastated. I bought a flat a few years ago, at the top of a steep hill in Forest Hill, south east London, a dead end. I’m in a block but I’m two floors up. I was surrounded by trees at the top of this hill and even though the south circular was at the bottom of the hill, it was peaceful, it was beautiful. It was quiet and I had a balcony. I have a balcony, yeah. And it was like living in the trees. I was like, in a treehouse. And I adored this place. And then they. And I’m on the corner, they suddenly built a huge block of flats behind our, block. And I thought, well, that’s upsetting, but at least I still have this view. I can see right into Kent one way, and if I look to the side, I can see the o two centre. It’s still fabulous. We can live with this. And then, of course, they put in a, proposal to build a block right in front as well. And we fought this. People in the area fought it for 18 months. And I went through that proposal with a fine tooth comb because I was like, this can’t be right. It can’t be. And of course, we all felt like we knew this little plot of land would be used for something one day. but we all felt, at least maybe it’ll be affordable housing. At least it will be solving the housing situation. And I found in the proposal a tiny sentence from the surveyor saying, this won’t support any affordable housing. So essentially, the developers are building a block of 16 flats to, the detriment of everybody who already lives there to make money for themselves. And we fought it and we won the first round and they changed the dimensions by a few centimetres. And, now it’s great. So that’s making me really shirty. Plus 08:00 every morning. The noise right outside my.

>> Stuart H: Oh, look, that’s.

>> Sarah Moyle: That’s probably more than shirty. That is. That’s cross. That’s really, really cross. Let’s.

>> Stuart H: Let’s take it across.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: We’re raising the gitches. Perhaps we should have a little sort of get shirty. Oh, metre.

>> Sarah Moyle: And move up. It’s up near the top there. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: So is that, When are they going to finish those or are they.

>> Sarah Moyle: I don’t know. I don’t know.

>> Stuart H: So you got to put up with the noise.

>> Sarah Moyle: I mean, the block behind took about 18 months, I think, altogether. But I tried to be, I tried to be very sort of philosophical about it and go, you know, other than tying myself to a digger.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: There’s literally nothing I can do about it. I had that gorgeous view for seven years, so, I should be grateful for that. And if I can’t live with it once it’s built, then, yeah, I’ll have to come up with another plan.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: So, yes, I’m trying to not be shirty about it.

>> Stuart H: Well, yeah. Trying to be very zen about it. Very difficult.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’m not succeeding yet.

>> Stuart H: The dream of that one story bungalow. Yeah, it’s gone.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: It’s, you know, I thought you, I was sort of projecting forward in my head and I thought you’re gonna say. And they cut the trees down and that’s awful. But Then it got worse.

>> Sarah Moyle: It’s worse, it’s worse. Other than that, home, things I’ve had, I’ve had lots of lodgers.

>> Stuart H: Right. Okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: Over the years.

>> Stuart H: And are you good with lodge?

>> Sarah Moyle: You know, I’m pretty good, yes. And I tended to either, only have friends or people who’ve been recommended.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: But even very good friends can.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: can sometimes make you a bit shirty. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Well, yeah, well that’s it. Because we’ve all got our ways of doing things.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: I think, well, I’ve never really had a lodger. I’ve had friends stay for like a little bit.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Extended period of time. But trouble is, I suppose it’s, you’ll always view it as your space that somebody else is in rather than a shared space, maybe.

Sometimes I feel a bit like I’m a guest in their home

>> Sarah Moyle: And what I sort of think I pride myself on is making it a home for people away from home, and which is great. And then very occasionally I’ve started to feel like, oh, it doesn’t feel like my home anymore. I feel a bit like I’m a guest in their home. Furniture started being moved around and really I thought, oh, wouldn’t. And one thing for my, I worked in Birmingham, for many, many years. So I was away Monday to Friday every week and one weekend I came home and I thought, where are all my cushions? In the situant. It’s very peculiar. And the lodger had not replaced my cushions. She just put her covers over my cushions.

>> Stuart H: Oh, really? Wow.

>> Sarah Moyle: Without a discussion.

>> Stuart H: No. Not even asking? No.

>> Sarah Moyle: Things, like that. Little things like that.

>> Stuart H: Maybe that’s, I would say that’s crossing the line.

>> Sarah Moyle: I would, I would, I thought it.

>> Stuart H: Was a bit peculiar. I bet your face was a picture.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, I was.

>> Stuart H: Then did you say anything or did you take the covers off?

>> Sarah Moyle: And then I think, I think I was trying to make light of it and I said, I said, couldn’t, couldn’t. Could our cushions live in harmony with each other? Could we have both? And she was like, oh, well, I thought, I thought we’d always plan to get rid of those. Had we?

>> Stuart H: Oh, now that, is next.

>> Sarah Moyle: Straight. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Especially as you, you were away all week and then just, you know.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: The following week, did you think, what am I going to come back to? What’s going to be changing?

>> Sarah Moyle: There was a period of time when I was like, what’s going, what’s going to move? What’s going to be, moving are the locks could have been changed.

>> Stuart H: Hello. You’re back.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Oh, so, yeah, that’s.

>> Sarah Moyle: But I understand as well because, you know, this person was in my flat 80% of the time and I was there, ah, 20% of the time. So, it was their home, essentially.

>> Stuart H: But yeah, it’s that, again, though, it’s that. I suppose that’s. It’s that consideration sort of thing again, isn’t it? You know, just like, oh, that’s fine, fine. You know, I’ll do that. That’s fine.

>> Sarah Moyle: It’s quite a task, isn’t, I think, to live with somebody who’s not your partner or your children or, you know, to live with somebody in any way is a dance. You know, you have to sort of compromise them.

>> Stuart H: That’s a good way of doing that. Yeah, but that, yeah, they took a misstep there. They trod well and truly on your toes.

>> Sarah Moyle: I mean, got more stories, but I think I should leave it there.

>> Stuart H: Well, maybe once we’ve stopped recording, maybe in part two. Well, that’s it. Yeah. Yeah, that’s, that’s, that would make me shirt it.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, yeah, that was.

>> Stuart H: I mean, I’m, again, I’m quite particular, that might be the word about certain things, you know, so. And if they aren’t, I don’t know. I was gonna say if they’re not done a certain way, then I can get a bit niggly.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: You know, get shirted.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Well, like, previous guests talked. Dishwasher, came up more than once about how a dishwasher was loaded. And I’m a bit funny about it. Oh, you know, I’m not too bad, but that can be one of the things where I feel like I’ve got to reload it as to how I like it.

>> Sarah Moyle: No, I know, I get that. I’ve got a friend who’s very, very particular about how you pack the shopping at the end of the conveyor belt. Has to.

>> Stuart H: Into bags ready for the right shelf.

>> Sarah Moyle: That he’s going to go on.

>> Stuart H: That’s an interesting on that.

>> Sarah Moyle: Whereas I’m like that. Lob them in.

>> Stuart H: Well, yeah. Especially in certain supermarkets, you’ve got no choice.

>> Sarah Moyle: No, because you haven’t got time.

>> Stuart H: You haven’t got time. You’ve literally just got. Hold the bag at the end and.

>> Sarah Moyle: Just shovel it in.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. See, I’m not, see, that I’m not good with. Don’t understand. Oh, yeah. No, that’s, that’s a properly good shirt. Yeah.

Doctor Birmingham was famously filmed very, very fast

So when you were away. So that was filming doctors Birmingham?

>> Sarah Moyle: yes, yes.

>> Stuart H: 938, was it episodes? Something like that.

>> Sarah Moyle: That sounds about right. Yes, certainly.

>> Stuart H: Incredible.

>> Sarah Moyle: It was, yes. Well, and going back to the feeling, getting shirty about people being late, that that was a particular example of a job where there was no time to spare. It’s famously filmed very, very fast. Or was. It’s gone now.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, I know. last two weeks.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. so you could, we couldn’t afford to have people be late because then you’d get behind schedule. But, Yes, for many years, I would drive up to Birmingham on a Sunday night and drive back to London on a Friday night.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Which was exhausting.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, I bet it was. Especially learning lines. I mean, how in advance were the, would you get a script?

>> Sarah Moyle: We’d usually get a script about a week in advance.

>> Stuart H: Right, okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: but more often than not, on a job like that, things change. As you know, you could be handed a page on the day and go, right, this is the new scene. Or these are the line changes. Pink pages, we call them. if you’ve got script on a pink page, it means it’s different. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Did you ever resort to the Marlon Brando? Have the lines written down on a piece of paper stuck down the front of somebody’s shirt?

>> Sarah Moyle: No, I never. I have seen that happen. but also because I played a receptionist, if I needed to, I could very easily have had lines behind the reception desk.

>> Stuart H: Sneaky.

>> Sarah Moyle: But I never did. I have, I’ve seen people hold up boards with lines on when it wasn’t going well. I’m very lucky in that I’ve got quite a good capacity for learning.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: Like they go, and the other. Yeah. And it’s, I mean, it’s a certain type of learning on the job like that, because you, you do a scene and, you know, five minutes later, if someone held a gun to your head and said, what are the words for that scene? You go, nope, they’ve gone. They’ve gone, I’m on to the next one. But, when I first started, I’d watch the regulars pick up a script, look at it for 5 seconds, go, okay, we’re ready. Action. And I thought, I’m never going to be able to do that. How do they do that? It’s a magic power. Maybe that’s my superhero.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Magic line learner. but after a while, it’s like any muscle when you work it every day. you do. And the other thing about doctors was they weren’t terribly strict on word order.

>> Stuart H: So you didn’t have the writer sort.

>> Sarah Moyle: Of there going, no, no. And so as long as you basically got the gist.

>> Stuart H: Because I’ve heard, actually a lot of a phrase I use a lot. I hesitated then because I was trying to think of a different way of wording it, but here we go. I listen to a lot of podcasts, and I seem to say that every podcast but doctors has come up a lot, actually, in other podcasts of people talking about how sad it is that it’s gone because of what it would do for the industry in that new directors would come through, they’d work on doctors and go through new writers. It would give actors their first sort of chance of being doing actually a film and thing. It was a really good sort of, learning training ground. Training ground.

>> Sarah Moyle: It really was. It really was. And it’s. I think that’s. It’s devastating to the industry because back in the day, you know, it would be, the bill would be a similar type of a thing, which would employ so many actors, and so many people get their first break, go on telly. And I always used to say it’s like tv boot camp. Doctors, you learn so much very quickly, and it’s a brilliant place. Was a brilliant place for that. And. But not just the actors. The, you know, camera assistants I saw move from being a camera assistant up to being on camera a. They had, they’d have new directors through. Yeah, I wrote two episodes.

>> Stuart H: I was just gonna say, I never.

>> Sarah Moyle: Get to do that anywhere else, but they let me have a go at doing that.

>> Stuart H: You know, didn’t fancy doing the directing. I never fancied that, because some of the.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, some of the cast did do that. I. That wasn’t really my thing. I think I, I think I care about acting too much, and I would have been wrong side of the camera for me.

>> Stuart H: Right. Okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. But I did enjoy the writing.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. and he’s.

Did you have experience of script writing before? Did you just go

So, had you. Did you have experience of script writing before? Did you just go, well, I’ve done this for so long now, I can.

>> Sarah Moyle: No, not really. I think I used to dabble in stand up a bit back in the day, and I’d written when I was younger, I wrote a lot of sketches for things. I’d always be writing sketches in those days when you didn’t censor yourself. Whereas nowadays I think I’d go to write and go, oh, that’s going to be rubbish, so I don’t bother. Whereas in my twenties, I just throw it all out there, which I wish I could still do that. but in terms of writing an actual tv script. And it came about kind of suddenly because I went to one of our exec producers and I said, I’ve got an idea for my character who was called Valerie. So I’ve got an idea for Valerie. And I put it to. And I thought it would be sort of to last a few episodes. And he went, well, I like the idea, but I think it’s just one episode. and I said, can I write it? And he went, yeah, okay. And I walked out of the office going, oh, what have I done? I didn’t mean to say that then I thought, this is good, good experience. And it was a steep learning curve.

>> Stuart H: And how long did you get to write it? Or was it relatively relaxed?

>> Sarah Moyle: It was quite relaxed for me. I think that the regular writers that they had, I think they would have six weeks. I had a lot more than that because I think they were kind to me because I was obviously filming 12 hours a day sometimes, as well as trying to do that. so the process took a lot longer. but I. Yeah, learned a lot.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Doing it.

>> Stuart H: And have you written anything else since?

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, funnily enough, James Barriscale, one of your former guests.

>> Stuart H: Yes.

>> Sarah Moyle: And I,

>> Stuart H: He was. He did a couple of episodes of doctors, didn’t he?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, he was my love interest for a while, which was, Sort of end well, no, in the middle of COVID filming, so we never had to snog, which we were quite relieved about because we’re such good mates. That would probably be a bit weird, but yes. He and I have been having a bash at trying to write a script. but then he got very successful. He was being very busy as an actor. And so we kind of stopped for a bit, but we’re hoping to rev that up again.

>> Stuart H: Oh, great. And do you enjoy the writing process?

>> Sarah Moyle: I enjoy the collaboration. I don’t think I’d be a very good person. I’m not very good when I’m on there. I need motivation. is there some famous writer who says, I enjoy having written, I don’t enjoy writing, and I think I may be one of those.

>> Speaker C: I’m cutting in with some info.

>> Stuart H: Are you?

>> Speaker C: The quote was by Dorothy Parker.

>> Sarah Moyle: Dorothy, that sounds.

>> Speaker C: I hate writing. I love having written.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes, I think that’s that.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’m that sort of a person.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. And I sort of. I do get that. I do get that. I like the ideas. I like having the ideas. And then if I’m, not pushed or if there aren’t other really good people who I happen to be around and work with, a lot of them wouldn’t happen.

>> Sarah Moyle: You know, I think collaboration is key a lot of the time.

The Git shirty podcast is going live on July 4 at Wales fringe festival

Yeah.

>> Stuart H: We have exciting news. The Git shirty podcast is going live. Yes. You will be able to see the podcast being recorded live for the very first time. And it’s all part of this year’s Tunbridge Whales fringe festival. It’s going to be on July 4 at the old auction house just off the Pantheons in Tunbridge, Wales. It is a ticketed event, just three pound per ticket, but numbers are limited, so booking sooner rather than later is advised. And you can do that by going to twfringe.com and just search for get shirted. We’ll be announcing our guests soon on one of our social media platforms. Or all of them. Probably not just one of them, obviously. Can’t wait to see you there at the Tunbridge, Wales Fringe Festival. So, July 4, the old auction house, Tunbridge, Wales Fringe. Don’t forget to book soon, otherwise you will miss out and you’ll have to get all shirted, work and home niggles done. Now. It’s just going well, there’s. We’ve got two. There’s two more niggles.

>> Sarah Moyle: Two more niggles.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. One. One is. We’ll come to that a bit later. Yeah. But, Yeah, so now it’s going out.

Have you got any concerns about going out in London? Um. People. Going out in the world

Have you got any niggles about going out? Yeah, sort of that. A night out, being out.

>> Sarah Moyle: Going out in the world.

>> Stuart H: Going the world, yeah. So the sort of socialising side of.

>> Sarah Moyle: Life, social, going out. the actual sort of going out part in London, my main niggle, I would say, is people who walk up to the ticket barrier and then decide to look for their ticket. I think that’s my number one.

>> Stuart H: Is it? That’s pretty.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think that’s not too bad, is it? If that’s the only thing that makes.

>> Stuart H: Me irritated, it’s that lack of foresight. See, for me, it’s a similar thing. It’s the people who just stop dead.

>> Sarah Moyle: On the other side.

>> Stuart H: Just when they’re walking down the street and they’re looking at the phone, they just go, I can stop now, because there won’t be anybody behind me.

>> Sarah Moyle: The double whammy for me, the people who stop to look for their ticket, the ticket barrier, then they go through and then they stop directly on the other side to put the ticket away.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, nice.

>> Sarah Moyle: Also, I was, I can’t bear an ambler. Oh, I can’t. And I think, I think that’s. I’m, programmed living in London to be a fast walker, but I was lucky enough to work in Stratford upon Avon all last summer.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: The level of ambling there is. It’s olympic level ambling.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Just goes on there and I’m daydreaming.

>> Stuart H: Walkie.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. That drives a bit nuts. I’m also a very keen cyclist, so I will, I will go out and about on my bike in London and cyclists who go through red lights.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Give us cyclists a bad name. And that really does make me shy. Shirty. Yes.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah. so it’s people, basically.

>> Sarah Moyle: People.

>> Stuart H: People doing what? Other people inconsiderate. But it is. It’s those sort of inconsiderate people, isn’t it?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, that’s the thing.

>> Stuart H: Perhaps it’s not even inconsiderate. It’s that sort of lack of.

>> Sarah Moyle: Just that lack of awareness and other people. Yeah. In terms of going out. Out, socialising out, I can’t think of anything that makes me cross apart from perhaps I’m not really a person to go out to clubs or anything these days, but if you’re. I’m a big drinker. I like drink.

>> Stuart H: You like a drink.

>> Sarah Moyle: But being at a bar and being ignored if you’re at a bar and becoming aware that it’s probably because of your age.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’ve had that happen on a number of occasions that, yeah. Being like, seeing everybody served around you and realising it’s. It possibly is because. Yeah, you’re an older lady. I’ve had that, yeah.

>> Stuart H: That’s awful. Do you think it’s like wrapped up with a. Oh, you must be with somebody else rather than you might be at the bar for yourself.

>> Sarah Moyle: Possibly. Maybe. Maybe I’m not. I don’t give off that I need a drink energy. Although I think I look like that most of the time.

>> Stuart H: Is it because you’re giving off,

>> Sarah Moyle: I’ve already had a drink energy to be maybe that. You see, maybe I remember, like, when you’re out, not now, not now.

>> Stuart H: I’m not trying to imply, you know, although the swaying when you walk through the door was a little.

>> Speaker C: I had a weird thing at the bar the other day, my friend from the north from Preston.

>> Stuart H: Oh, yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Just reminded me we walked into the pub and there was a queue to the bar.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Speaker C: Because he went up to the bar.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Wait for a drink.

>> Stuart H: He started kicking off.

>> Speaker C: They went, oy, what are we kidding about? He went up in the north.

>> Stuart H: We talking about a single line?

>> Sarah Moyle: I have seen that.

>> Speaker C: That’s the first time I don’t go to the bar that much.

>> Sarah Moyle: It was all weird, efficient use of space.

>> Speaker C: Four bartenders.

>> Stuart H: I think you’d have four cues then.

>> Speaker C: Yeah. At least.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

Ambling says lack of consideration is behind getting shirty

Which is essentially what normally happens.

>> Stuart H: It was all lined up. I stood at the bar. So I had a drink.

>> Speaker C: So he ended up nearly out of the door. He wasn’t happy.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. See, actually thinking about that, I mean, I don’t really drink anymore. So, I’m working on old memories here. But going to a bar and people who stay at the bar. Ah. When there’s no seats, I think that’s a bit selfish. Yeah. Sort of mind out the way so.

>> Sarah Moyle: People who need a drink can get out. Yeah, yeah, no, I’m with you. That’s another one.

>> Stuart H: Does that still happen? I don’t really go to.

>> Sarah Moyle: But I think that comes back to our, not being aware of other people. That lack of consideration.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. It’s funny, isn’t it? I think that encapsulates getting shirty quite well, that sort of lack of consideration because. Yeah, really, like, you know, we’re not talking about, as you said at the beginning, that get shirty phrase sort of implies a general annoyed, slightly pissed off. This really is what we’re talking about. And it’s those sorts of things that really can drive you, but they can build, can’t they?

>> Sarah Moyle: one instance of that can make you slightly irritated, but if you’re out and about and that sort of thing keeps happening, keeps happening. It can be an accumulative effect, I think.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. I’m not good with drivers who don’t.

>> Sarah Moyle: Wave and say thank you, nor drivers who don’t indicate they’re going off the roundabout.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, well, exactly. Yeah. And now if I’m distracted, the roundabout, I do forget. But that’s, you know, that is a forgetting rather than consciously deciding not to deliberately.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. In fact, I’ve talked about one. I won’t go into the roundabout again.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: It is that, whole. Is that sort of just general lack of consideration of going, oh, someone’s done something nice, I can be nice back.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: That’s consideration.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think I find that shocking.

>> Stuart H: It’s funny. It’s. I think it is. I’m with you. It’s the general lack of consideration, the general lack of people sort of just thinking about people other than themselves, I think.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. You know, and it is that spatial awareness. Awareness. Awareness. Yeah, yeah.

>> Stuart H: Just stopping, look at the phone, not getting to one side, blocking doorways, not saying, thank you.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, people. I mean, it’s endless now, isn’t it? People who walk down the street, but sort of like five abreast.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Ambling.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

People who think they’re more entitled to do something annoy me

And just don’t get. Don’t huddle up for you to go past and, sort of even give you a look as if you’re.

>> Sarah Moyle: And you have to step in over. Yeah, it’s really weird.

>> Speaker C: Runners that run, side by side at the moment.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: I mean, even. Even cyclists. And obviously I’m a big cycling fan, but if they’re out on a busy road, it’s not necessary for two cyclists to be cycling next week. They can do that in the park.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is that, I suppose it’s going back to what we’re saying earlier, that general. It’s either. I think I’m more important, so what I’m doing is the most important thing, or just that lack of thinking that’s there might be other people who are doing something.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think that might be maybe, Under the whole umbrella of getting shirty, maybe. That’s my top thing, is people who think they’re more entitled than other people.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah.

>> Speaker C: That’s another podcast under the umbrella. That’s a different.

>> Stuart H: Oh, that’s a good one. We could do that as an offshoot of this one. We’ve got a live podcast coming up, actually.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, really?

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah. Amazing so far. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

>> Speaker C: What’s Hewitt?

>> Stuart H: Not to anybody else. See, that’s one of those ideas that perhaps should have stayed in my head, but I forged ahead and then said, look, while I’ve organised. So, yeah, doing that happening. Yeah. So that’d be fun. We’ll see how that goes. Sam doesn’t know she’s got to go on stage yet, but.

You worked on the sitcom with Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant

>> Speaker C: I’ve got a question. Any stories from extras that are repeatable?

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, no, I’m just trying to think. It was such a long time ago.

>> Stuart H: Did you enjoy it, though?

>> Sarah Moyle: It was one of my most favourite jobs I’ve ever done in my life. And although, we, as the sitcom within the sitcom, were in five out of the six episodes, because it was all on one set, of course, we filmed it all relatively quickly. and I loved it. I absolutely loved. I was terrified to begin with, because I was so in awe of them. but I loved it. And what I loved best of all was that Ricky Chavez and Stephen Merchant aren’t precious about their material at all. They encouraged us to improvise and a lot of the stuff we improvised ended up in the final script. and best of all, Ricky Gervais doesn’t like working past 04:00 in the afternoon. So the crew love him, cast love him for that. And he gets the best work because no one’s sitting around going, oh God, it’s past 06:00 and I wish I was with my family.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: we also used to have a barbecue lunch on a Thursday in the grounds at Pinewood. it’s a good time.

You were playing a character in the sitcom. Within the sitcom? Yes. So how long were you filming for

>> Stuart H: So how long were you filming for?

>> Sarah Moyle: Only about two, I think it was just over two weeks. And then I went back a while later and did the Christmas special, which I was only on for a few days. I think that even if that might have only been a day, but, Yeah, fantastic.

>> Stuart H: You worked with some. So who were the other people in your scenes?

>> Sarah Moyle: so in the.

>> Stuart H: Because you were playing a character in the sitcom.

>> Sarah Moyle: Within the sitcom? Yes. I don’t get it.

>> Speaker C: That was your one.

>> Sarah Moyle: I don’t get it. Mister Stokes, and you’re having a laugh. there’s one episode, if eagle eyed people watching it will notice. We obviously had a problem with corpsing, like, laughing at him because it was very funny.

>> Stuart H: He’s sort of bad for that anyway.

>> Sarah Moyle: And he’s very bad at that. And there’s one scene that made it into the edit where I’m literally looking up at him and I’m clearly just. And it got through. I don’t know how it got through, but, So, yes, that in our, ah, bits there was me, Liza Tarbuck. Oh, this is gonna be bad, isn’t it? I can’t remember people’s names. Andrew, Buckley. It was 2006.

>> Stuart H: Was it?

>> Sarah Moyle: Okay, yeah, a long time ago. But,

>> Stuart H: Did you do stuff with. Was Keith Chegwin in with any of. Keith Checkwin was in Les Dennis.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, Les Dennis was. He was. He was in the first.

>> Stuart H: Right, okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: Series, I think.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, because they were. That was a pantos. They were in a pantape. Was Keith Chegwin in?

>> Sarah Moyle: Keith Chegwin was. We. We had the brilliant, the brilliant scene where he’s rehearsing Rick’s face going, don’t, don’t look straight into camera, do it. You just said your daughter. You buried your daughter. Why would you? Yeah, he. It was just absolutely brilliant. Of course, it took forever and we were sort of in the background as a person. We, we had. Chris Martin was in one of our episodes.

>> Stuart H: How amazing.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think those probably are our only two, celebs, because the celebs tended to be.

>> Speaker C: Lisa Darba, as you said. Is it Lisa or Liza? Is it Liza?

>> Sarah Moyle: Lisa, I would say.

>> Speaker C: I’ve always said Lisa, but.

>> Stuart H: Lisa.

>> Speaker C: Andrew Buckley, as you said, Jamie Chapman.

>> Sarah Moyle: The glasses. That’s the one. Lovely. Jamie Chapman ceremonial.

>> Speaker C: I don’t know. And then Keith Jackman was the tv presenter.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah. But wonderful, thing to have done, to have that freedom, I suppose, to be able to sort of improvise and it was, you confident, you know, you’re obviously a very confident person. Did you feel like, oh, yeah, I’ll just go for it?

>> Sarah Moyle: I mean, I was terrified. I was terrified to begin with, but they do make an environment where you feel like, oh, it’s okay, you know, we can go for it. And, I do really enjoy that, not being confined to things and also, you just never know what’s going to come out of that sort of work. But, yeah, I love that job. I absolutely love that job. And it’s one of those jobs where you. I remember exactly where I was when I got the call to say, you’ve got the job. It’s walking down the street in hull because I was up there doing a play. But you never quite know how a job like that, like how big that job is going to end up being. And it’s, it’s still to this day, something I’m very proud to have on.

>> Stuart H: My cv, quite rightly so, you know, it’s an amazing thing to have done and somebody who has, I mean, and that was, I suppose, coming off the back of the office as well, wasn’t it?

>> Sarah Moyle: So the office, yeah, that was already, yeah.

I still get terrified at auditions. Yeah. In fact, I think it gets worse as you get older

>> Stuart H: So that was a massive thing. And to work with somebody who has, got that body of work is clearly still trying to build a body of work to say, come in and do what you want to do.

>> Sarah Moyle: It’s still one of those, in fact, quite a lot of work you end up doing. You go, why didn’t they pick me? Any actress worth their salt could have done what I did, but I got lucky. Why? Why did they pick me? I still don’t know. I made, I remember making a joke in the audition and going out and going, oh, God, why did I do that? Why did I do that? But it could have been that joke. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: So did you have to audition in front of Ricky?

>> Sarah Moyle: I did one audition for just the casting director and then I got a recall in front of Ricky and Stephen and,

>> Stuart H: Yeah, I bet that was a moment walking into that room.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, I bet that was terrified.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: See, I find doing the, you know, doing the podcast frightening enough, you know, because you think, oh, what if I say something stupid? What if I, you know, luckily stu cuts all the stupid stuff I say out. Brilliant.

>> Sarah Moyle: That’s the beauty of it.

>> Speaker C: It’s just a bit weird having one person talking on the head.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. There’s none of it and it’s hosted by nobody.

>> Sarah Moyle: I wish I had a permanent editor who was with me all the time to cut out all the stupid things.

>> Stuart H: You and me both. Yeah. That’s a great idea, actually. Yeah. If you could just follow me around, just say that. But, yeah, so I find that, you know, I don’t like listening back myself and I do listen back to them. I don’t like it. So going into that situation where, ah, you’ve got to sort of, well, you’re pitching.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Really, aren’t you?

>> Sarah Moyle: I still get terrified at auditions. It doesn’t. In fact, I think if anything, it gets a bit worse as you get older.

>> Stuart H: Okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: Especially as we’ve been through this whole period when nobody was auditioning for anything.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. Or self taped.

>> Sarah Moyle: And then now it’s all self tapes. So if you do get to go into a room, I find, excruciating.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Sometimes. I mean, I prefer it. I definitely prefer it. But I still get very nervous.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. Ah, yeah, I can, I can imagine. It’s Well, what about in front of the camera? You know, of the nerves of that.

>> Sarah Moyle: Gone or, you know, that that was the beauty of doing doctors day in, day out for seven years is you don’t get that terrify. Like, I used to get a terrifying rush of adrenaline when somebody said action, which made me a bit that goes after a while when you’re just doing it day in, day out. But, but I know also now if I were to go on and do another tele show, I know I’d be nervous again because it would be a different setup. Unfamiliar.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: but I don’t think that’s a bad thing either, to still have those.

Stage nerves are slightly different to screen nerves, you say

>> Stuart H: Nerves and is that a stage nerves slightly different to, screen nerves?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, totally. Because on screen, you know that actually if you do fluff the lines or fall over, go, I will just do it again. I think the screen nerves are just like oh, I want to. I want to be good. I want to be as good as I can be or as good as the person you think I am. When you gave me this job, stage nerves are just like, I’ve got to get through this. When the curtain goes up, I’ve got to get from the beginning of this thing to the end of this thing and do it correctly and not forget my lines and not forget the lines and the moves and. Yeah, be wearing the right outfit.

>> Stuart H: Is that. Have you ever gone on stage and gone, oh, no, I suppose, not every show has dresses, do they?

>> Sarah Moyle: No, I’m sure I have. I do remember, I was, working on shoes. Yeah. Oh, no, I have.

>> Stuart H: I think I have gone out of your slippers.

>> Sarah Moyle: I have. I must have done. I must have done in all these years. But, I was once, back in the day working in rep in, Scarborough at the Stephen Joseph theatre. And we were doing two shows and the girls dressing room and the boys dressing room was sort of on one side of an atrium. And I do remember coming out one night wearing an outfit and everyone else came out and I was like, I’m in the outfit for the other play. I get changed.

>> Stuart H: Oh, God.

>> Sarah Moyle: Don’t know how that happened. Yeah, don’t know how I did that. But. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. But you didn’t actually make it onto, stage.

>> Sarah Moyle: No, no, I wasn’t actually, on the stage. But I’m sure I have had wardrobe mishaps.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, I’ve done odd shoes. But I mean, it doesn’t really matter so much if you’re not being stared at by lots of people. If I walk in here and go, oh, you know, so that’s not so bad. But, you didn’t do their stormzy slippers. Have you ever seen that, that interview Stormzy was picked up. He was on the BBC breakfast. And, the interviewer says, oh, you know, this is a really interesting look you’ve got there. You know, are those slippers that you’re wearing? He was like, oh, yeah, the car was early. I woke up late and I just ran out of the house. Things are.

>> Sarah Moyle: Myself, I haven’t seen that.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. And he’s like being all cool, but he’s there on breakfast tv with his slippers on. Yeah, it’s quite sweet, really, isn’t it?

>> Sarah Moyle: Why not?

>> Stuart H: Why not? He could have just styled it out and just gone, yeah. And suddenly, yeah, it’s a new look.

>> Sarah Moyle: Suddenly everyone.

You did Broadway for six months, so nerves must have been different

>> Stuart H: From a work point of view, then nerves are not something yet that you struggle what about Broadway? Was that a, different sort of nerves or. Because you did Broadway for, yeah, for a while, didn’t you?

>> Sarah Moyle: Six ish months? yeah, it was. That was obviously an extraordinary job. but we had been doing the play we did out there was, called Jerusalem by Jez Butterworth, and we’d done it at the royal court, and we’d done it in the west end. So by the time we got to broad, we were.

>> Stuart H: Was it the same cast?

>> Sarah Moyle: It was not more or less. More or less. We had a few changes. and a few of us did the whole lot from beginning to end. so, yeah, by the time we got there, I think we were all so settled in those roles, and I had a relatively small part. I had a bit at the beginning and a big scene at the end. so, yeah, no, not so much. It was very exciting, though.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, I bet.

>> Sarah Moyle: Very exciting. And they, They have a sort of like, a different thing on Broadway that I don’t think we have here in the West End is that if a famous person comes to see a show in the West End, you might hear about them being there. You might know they were there. But if a famous person comes to see a show on Broadway, they automatically come backstage and are introduced to everybody.

>> Stuart H: Oh, really?

>> Sarah Moyle: And we had a little sort of green room, and we’d get a tannoy announcement saying, could you please come down to the green room to meet Meryl Streep? Things, like that. And you’d go, what? Really?

>> Stuart H: And it was Meryl Streep. One of the best.

>> Sarah Moyle: She was. I’ve got. I had a hug. She gave me a hug.

>> Stuart H: Wow.

>> Sarah Moyle: But what was funny about it was because this went on for six months. By the end of it, we were all so blase about it, and they’d be like, could you please come and meet Robert De Niro? And we’d be like, oh, I just want to go to the pie. I’m going to go out the back door. But it was mad. It was like every night there was someone extraordinary waiting to meet us.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, it’s funny, isn’t it, what life can throw at you and becomes normal? I mean, so who was the best person in the green room? You know, like Meryl Streep?

>> Sarah Moyle: Merrill. Meryl Streep was probably my top. Robert De Niro was quite intimidating. there was one day I walked in there, and it was, Anna Wintour from Vogue, Carla from cheers, Rhea Perlman and the girl from glee, and they were all, oh, and sting and his wife in the same room. It was slightly. Yeah, very. Yeah. I mean, bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.

>> Stuart H: Really bonkers. Well, what an experience.

>> Sarah Moyle: I know.

>> Speaker C: They all got to meet you.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, lucky them.

>> Stuart H: Actually.

>> Speaker C: Sweet stays at home now, going, do.

>> Sarah Moyle: You remember that day?

>> Speaker C: She was amazing.

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, and, weird things happen when you get this. Sounds like I’m so showing off. I am a bit show off.

>> Stuart H: You’re allowed to.

Sarah Blythe was hired by Sean Penn for a role in Jerusalem

Well, that’s what the podcast is about, actually.

>> Sarah Moyle: A couple of years after, doing that job, I was sitting at home being very unemployed. I was teaching a thing called monkey music, which is tiny tots shaking bells. And I was preparing a lesson for the following day and I got a call from Mark Rylands, who, of course, was the fabulous, incredible lead of Jerusalem, saying, what you up to next week? and I said, well, nothing. Nothing much, really. I’m sort of teaching, he said, because I’m doing this film and, we’ve had to rewrite a few scenes and we need a mumsy type. Would you be free? It’s just, it’s just a few lines, just one scene. And I said, yes, mark Rylance, for you, I will absolutely be free. And he said, great. Okay, that’s fabulous. You’re going to grade. Sean will phone you in a set to, make arrangements. And I put the phone down and went, is that the person who’s sorting out the travel or the wardrobe or whatnot? Five minutes later, Sean Penn phoned me on my home phone in southeast London. And I was. I turned into my mum. I was lovely to talk to you. How nice. thank you for calling. Oh, no, it’s pleasure. I don’t mind. It was bonkers. And I remember putting the phone down and going, there’s no one here. I want to tell someone that this just happened.

>> Stuart H: So who did you call? Somebody in town.

>> Sarah Moyle: I phoned my mum. And when you went, Blythe. But the reason I say that is because we’d met Sean Penn after the show at Jerusalem one night. And so when Mark said, oh, I’ve got a few suggestions. And he said, oh, this is Sarah. Oh, you saw Sarah on, in the show? Sean Penn went, oh, yeah, yeah, she’ll do. So. It’s amazing. I always think it’s amazing the, the way things line up to make good things happen. Yeah, it’s kind of.

>> Speaker C: Was that one with Mackenzie crook in that as well? Jerusalem, yeah. Yeah, I wanted to see that.

>> Stuart H: I missed it.

>> Speaker C: It left London before.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, it was extraordinary. And they bought it back recently, last year.

>> Speaker C: It’s got. It’s gone again.

>> Sarah Moyle: Gone again now. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Speaker C: It’s had good reviews.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Best. I mean, I’m obviously supremely biassed, but it is the best theatre show has been in the last ten years, I reckon. Yeah. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

>> Stuart H: Lovely to do that kind of work, you know.

>> Sarah Moyle: Amazing again. But again, I’m like, how did I get that job?

>> Stuart H: I think it’s by being.

>> Sarah Moyle: But anyone could have done that. Anyone could have done the part I did. It didn’t even rely on being a certain age or having a certain accent or.

>> Stuart H: But then it’s having that. That thing that they were looking for.

>> Sarah Moyle: And, m talent and. Yeah, I. Yes, you’re very kind, but I’m like, it seems like a complete giant fluke to me.

>> Stuart H: I had a big bag of money that I thrust at them and said, I would like to do this, please. Yeah. Which. Well, I’m sure some of that does go on.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, I’m sure. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: You ready for the lie gets?

>> Sarah Moyle: Right. Yes.

Shirty is called off the cuff because you don’t know what it is

>> Stuart H: So here comes the very, long and waffly. So this gets. Shirty is called off the cuff because you don’t know what it is.

>> Sarah Moyle: Right.

>> Stuart H: Get shirty. There’s the pun. Off the cuff. Now, we. Yeah, exactly. It works on many levels, except for we weren’t sure how to get people to pick them, so we put them in a hat.

>> Sarah Moyle: Amazing.

>> Stuart H: So it’s. And we’ve talked about changing it and, we started this with Adam Buxom was the first, and he suggested, oh, maybe pin them to a shirt cuff. And we thought, oh, well, that. Yes, that works. At the time I said, yeah, great. What great idea. We’ll do that. And then we decided, no, we’d like to keep them in the hat. But now I feel like I’ve got to explain it every time. So, in the hat, off the cuff of the hat. Off the. The hat. I, don’t know. We can’t think of a way in. There are lots of little suggestions of things. So pick one out of the hat, off the cuff. I’ll just keep throwing the words in there. It’ll stick. And, then see if there’s anything about the thing that you picked that.

>> Sarah Moyle: Makes shirt or not. Brilliant.

Do you like a holiday? I love a holiday. So are you even a holiday type person

I love it. Holidays.

>> Stuart H: Holidays. So are you even a holiday type person?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes.

>> Stuart H: Do you like a holiday?

>> Sarah Moyle: I love a holiday. I love a travel, maybe. What makes me most shirty is not having enough money to do it as often as I like to do it. I love a holiday.

>> Stuart H: They’re not cheap, are they, no.

>> Sarah Moyle: Depending on the sort of thing you want to do as well. I think I’m a bit over ambitious with the things. yeah.

>> Stuart H: Start being.

Not going on enough holidays is something to be sure to avoid

So is it always, it got to be going abroad?

>> Sarah Moyle: Not necessarily.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: But I do, yes, I do. Like, a big adventure.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Proper adventure, you know. Are you sort of trekking in the mountains type adventure?

>> Sarah Moyle: I would do that. I could, yeah. I did, what I, at the time, I called my midlife crisis tour excellent. Southeast Asia.

>> Stuart H: It’s a perfect tour.

>> Sarah Moyle: And I went to, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam. Nothing made me cross about that, so I should probably get off that subject. Nothing maybe, but holidays in general, I.

>> Stuart H: Was expecting you to say, because you already said earlier, oh, I’m always super early to the airport, things like that, you know. I thought you were going to say, oh, being late or delayed flights or something.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes. Yeah. An, unreliable transport in general makes me angry. yeah, that’s fair. other people again, other people on transport.

>> Stuart H: yeah, see, yeah, I see. I’m with you or not. Not going on enough holidays is something to be sure to with you on that. Yeah, that’s quite a good one. You know, the transport. I’m not a great traveller because I’m always late, as we discussed. So the chance of missing a connecting train, is quite high.

>> Sarah Moyle: Quite high, yeah.

>> Stuart H: and cause stress. So, yeah, I’m not a good, I’m not a good traveller, from that point of view, but. So you could travel, you enjoy it.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think I’m good. I’m also quite adventurous, as in I’ll go by myself.

>> Stuart H: Right. Okay.

>> Sarah Moyle: and have done many things, but, yeah, I think, I think the main thing is things not going according to plan, like transportation, sport connections, things like that. That’s.

>> Stuart H: Are you a meticulous planner of a holiday?

>> Sarah Moyle: I’m quite a planner, yeah. Yeah, I like to know. Yeah, I don’t think, I don’t think I’m the sort of person who’s so adventurous that I could be backpacking somewhere and go, I don’t know where I’m sleeping tonight. I don’t do that.

>> Stuart H: See, that’s more me.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. I’ll turn this down. Yeah.

>> Speaker C: I need to know, have you got a dream holiday? Sort of the pinnacle.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, next on my list. I would love to do Costa Rica. I’d love, I love anything that involves nature and animals. And I did, one of my other amazing adventures was I cycled around Rwanda with a team for charity and I was lucky enough to go and see the gorillas and that mountain gorillas. That was extraordinary.

>> Stuart H: Absolutely frightening.

>> Sarah Moyle: Or a bit scary. Yes. They said, the guides, who were amazing said, you know, if the silverback does the chest beating, he’s just trying to assert his authority and just make yourself smaller and don’t, look directly at him. And he did. It’s probably. Probably good advice for life, isn’t it? It’s like something’s intimidating. Be small. Look at it. so he did. Yes. We had a guy in our group who was very tall and a big bloke, and he was obviously trying to assert. And the minute that started happening, I literally went into a ball and went so small and didn’t look up. So I missed the whole thing. I didn’t see this happening because I had my eyes just in case he was looking at him.

>> Stuart H: two days later, you still got your eyes closed, just in case.

>> Sarah Moyle: But, yeah, I think. I think anything involving nature and animals, I’d like to go to Japan as well. That’s something I’ve never done.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’ve also got an odd one. I did. I did a play last summer about the Falkland Islands, and I would love to go visit the Falkland Islands, which would not be probably a relaxing, warm holiday in any way, but quite.

>> Stuart H: Quite a place, though.

>> Sarah Moyle: I mean, very difficult to get to easily.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

You researched the Falklands and wrote a play about it

Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Ah, I’d like to do that.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. I’m. I’ve sort of been the age I am. The Falklands is when I picture it. I picture it as I thought about it back then.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: And I’m sure it’s changed now. And, you know, I think, of it as being still in the eighties somehow.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: I wonder if it is. I don’t know.

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, it was. It was fascinating. We did, the play was about the war, but, we did, obviously, a lot of, research, and we did manage to have Zoom meetings with islanders and people who live there now. And the main thing that came out of it is people adore living there, and particularly their ageing population. They’re so looked after, they never have to worry about getting a doctor’s appointment. They’re cared for. They’ve got enough to live on. The cost of living there is surprisingly cheap, given that they have to import a lot of stuff. and people don’t tend to leave as much as you think they would.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. So that was interesting. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: It’s funny, isn’t it? because it’s. I mean, it’s so out there, isn’t it? You know, it’s like. And it’s. I don’t know what the population is.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’m not sure. See, I might get it wrong, look it up, but I know it went down. It went down to about 3000 at one time, from what I remember.

>> Stuart H: So for there, what was the name of the play?

>> Sarah Moyle: It was called Falkland Sound. Right.

>> Stuart H: Okay. And from a point of view of sort of learning about that, were you surprised by anything that you learned, you know, or. I was characterised in such a way.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: It was back in, what was.

>> Sarah Moyle: Fascinating was, was there were only a few of us my age or older.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: So we were in the minority of people who actually remembered it. I remembered seeing it on the news and remembered what it felt like. And I remember as a kid thinking, they must be so cold and it’s just so bleak and awful. But there are some of the stories that came out about things that did actually happen during that time, which we never did really know back then, were pretty horrific. But also the, the kind of bravery and the, community of the islanders.

>> Stuart H: I imagine something like that happening where you live sort of makes the community cohesive in a way that lasts, that carries on through for decades. That sort of shared experience, even if it was one that you didn’t live through yourself.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think it is what they, they talk about that kind of historical, you know, through line of people. Of course there are people still living on the island who experienced it as kids and their families have experienced the stories and. Yeah, I’ve gone right off topic with being shirty about holidays.

>> Stuart H: Well, hey, I like it. I mean, the framework of the podcast is really there. Just.

>> Speaker C: Captain Google’s got some information.

>> Stuart H: Go for it. That should be your new name.

>> Speaker C: I was thinking your superheroes.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, Captain Google, go for it.

The 2021 census estimate for Southborough was 3662

>> Speaker C: So how many people did you think, did you say?

>> Sarah Moyle: I thought it dropped to about 3000 at one time, but then went up.

>> Stuart H: That’s a good guess.

>> Sarah Moyle: Went up, to about five.

>> Speaker C: It’s a good guess. 2021 census was 3662.

>> Stuart H: Wow.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: Quite small, isn’t it?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, that’s really small.

>> Speaker C: No wonder.

>> Stuart H: Don’t wait for the many people as they’re in Southborough.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, I think that their economy has improved quite dramatically in the last few years, I think.

Rolanda was 282 kilometres over five days, so it wasn’t tough

>> Stuart H: Well done, Captain Google.

>> Sarah Moyle: Never thought I’d be talking about the Falklands at this. No.

>> Stuart H: Well, I’ll be honest, I didn’t think, it wasn’t on my list of things I thought no about, but Rolanda was on there. I thought we’d talk about that. Because of your bike. Right. Yeah, I bet that was. How many miles was that in total?

>> Sarah Moyle: It was 282 kilometres, but over five days, so it wasn’t as bad as it sounded. But it was quite tough.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, I bet it was.

>> Sarah Moyle: It was very tough. It’s the land of a thousand hills.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Which I didn’t know before I signed up for that.

>> Stuart H: As you signed.

>> Sarah Moyle: Got the information.

>> Stuart H: You do know it’s the land of a thousand hills? What?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Speaker C: That’s temple Tudor, wasn’t it?

>> Stuart H: Yeah. That’s very similar, actually, isn’t it?

>> Sarah Moyle: And I think we went up, every single one of them at some point. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: So you’re not, You are. You’re not a Brompton. Brompton’s have come up.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’m obsessed with my Brompton.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. Well, it’s, In fact, that’s.

>> Speaker C: Do you lock it up?

>> Sarah Moyle: No, it’s in. It’s in the boot of my car right now.

>> Speaker C: You’re not allowed to lock it up.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: We had quite the Brompton chat with Adam Buxton.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, really?

>> Stuart H: He’s a Brompton, in fact.

>> Sarah Moyle: And James mentioned Brompton, didn’t he?

>> Stuart H: Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah.

>> Stuart H: You’re not meant to chain them up, apparently. Never, never leave them up. Chained.

>> Sarah Moyle: I would never do that because the beauty of them is that you don’t have to. You take them in.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. Why exactly, you would think. But, yeah, no, because Adam, he’s had two Brompton stone.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, really? Yes.

>> Stuart H: Not good, is it?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, yeah.

>> Stuart H: So the Brompton, though, he actually. He got the training cycled up. Oh, yeah. I was like, we can come pick up the session is like no technique. Google has told me it will be twelve minutes.

>> Speaker C: Google has told me it will be twelve minutes exactly.

>> Stuart H: They said it will be twelve minutes and it was twelve minutes.

>> Sarah Moyle: I should. Oh, I should have done that. That’s why. I don’t know.

>> Stuart H: Well, it’s a bit of a cycle to. Well. Oh, well, get the train all the.

>> Sarah Moyle: Way from your place.

>> Stuart H: I mean, that is the sort of.

>> Sarah Moyle: Thing I would set myself to do. But not. Not on the Tuesday morning.

>> Stuart H: Ah, no, that’s. That would have been a bit of an ask. A little bit of an ask.

You’ve been pretty calm about your career, actually

Well, look, so I think, from a point of view, I think we’ve covered it. Unless you’ve got a desperate annoyance that you thought, I’m going to talk about that today. That’s the thing I’m going to talk about.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think I’ve mentioned all my.

>> Stuart H: Have you? That’s pretty good. That’s pretty.

>> Sarah Moyle: I have to say, they’ve organically come up all my annoyances.

>> Stuart H: You’ve been pretty calm, actually.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. You know, I think I’m quite. I’m annoyed, you know, that I don’t get offered more acting jobs. But that’s not really anyone’s fault. But I can’t blame anyone for that. That’s just the way it is.

>> Stuart H: A bit of a sign of the times at the moment.

>> Sarah Moyle: It’s a bit. It’s a bit grim out there right now. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: There’s a podcast, actually, that’s come up before, and the one that doctors came up on, one of the ones that came up on that Richard Osmond does called, the rest is entertainment. And they talk on there quite a lot about how the industry is going and how commissioners aren’t commissioning the same amount of staff, and actually stuff’s being made and then sits on the shelf because it’s more financially viable for them to do that because they don’t have to pay until it’s aired and all these sorts of things. It’s a tough, tough old time.

>> Sarah Moyle: It’s a funny old time. Yeah. I was extremely lucky that my first year out of doctors, it just all fell into place, and I went sort of job to job to job. And then I finished at the RSC in November, and it was like dropping off the edge of a cliff because I hadn’t had to worry about it for so long. It, hit me like a tonne of breaks, and I’m now sort of trying to be cool about it. Hope something happens, but, yeah.

Emmerdale was up for a couple of things before Christmas

>> Stuart H: So is it now you’re sort of in there auditions and putting yourself up.

>> Sarah Moyle: For things, but, I’m finding very much. I was up for a couple of things before Christmas, which would sort of very definitely my level, like a small run of importance of being earnest in Colchester, you know, nothing too glamorous, but a good job that I would have taken, and another tour of a play. And I recently looked up the people who got the jobs that I didn’t get. and they were very much established television people who were much more established than me, much more accomplished than me. And I thought, that’s what’s happening, is the next level up from me is dropping down. So then we’re going down here and being sort of slightly pushed out the side, which is what I fear is happening. But it’s a, It’s just there’s nothing other than being ready and match fit when something does come up, there’s not a lot. You can have it.

>> Stuart H: Award at people.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, look, I’m, look at me.

>> Stuart H: Look, I’m an award winning actress. That’s what we, we won an award a few years ago. We forever. Just going, hello. Yes. it was only a local business award.

>> Sarah Moyle: Who cares? Yeah, mine was only a soap award.

>> Stuart H: That’s how brilliant. Best comedic performance, wasn’t it?

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah, yeah.

>> Stuart H: Very good too. I know, but I’ve seen you’ve been nominated a lot of nominations as well, which is good.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’ve done my gracious but disappointed loser face on, several occasions.

>> Stuart H: And did you practise that beforehand? That was very good. We should have filmed that. It was very good. what was I listening to? Sharon Stone talks about having to do that at the oscars on, something I was listening to recently, but she’d been sort of given the nod by somebody beforehand that you’re not going to win this. Oh, well, I, Francis Ford Coppola actually said, you know, you won’t win this because they don’t want you to win it, so be ready. And he said that to her, ah, apparently a few weeks beforehand so that she could be prepared. And she was like crushed at the time, but then sort of was like.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, thank you for. I sort of had a weird opposite to that. A few years previous to the time actually won. I was again up for comedy and they put me in the front row.

>> Stuart H: Right.

>> Sarah Moyle: And of course, you immediately slightly go, hang on. And just before they were like, Felix Schofield. Did he? And coming up next, we have award for the best comedy performance. And, the floor manager with his, his microphone, walked past me and went, don’t you go anywhere. And everyone in my team like, heard, that went, did you hear that? And then there was a camera right there and I now think they just wanted my reaction when I didn’t. It was horrible. It was horrible.

>> Stuart H: Yeah, you’re all g’d up.

>> Sarah Moyle: I was just like.

>> Stuart H: And then it’s quite nerve wracking as well. I imagine that sort of. I might have to go out there and say something.

>> Sarah Moyle: Oh, it’s horrible. Yeah. but the lovely thing about the year that I did win was because it had happened so many times that I didn’t.

>> Stuart H: Yeah.

>> Sarah Moyle: I was so convinced it never would or never could that I was incredibly laid back. And, and when they called my name, it was a few seconds before I was like, oh, you mean, oh, it’s me. So, yeah, it’s a funny old thing.

>> Stuart H: And at those awards, is it right that, like, there’s big fistfights between all the different soaps in the car park afterwards, surely.

>> Sarah Moyle: I think it has happened.

>> Stuart H: Has it? Has it?

>> Sarah Moyle: I mean, obviously not me. I haven’t. I haven’t. I haven’t ever been involved in a fistfight.

>> Stuart H: is it quite. You know, I was being silly, obviously, but is it quite territorial? Is it like.

>> Sarah Moyle: No.

>> Stuart H: I think EastEnders and Emmerdale are sort of.

>> Sarah Moyle: People are very sort of proud of their particular thing. But in actual fact, everyone’s got mates in the other soaps, so it’s quite. It’s quite jolly, really.

>> Speaker C: Can all the soaps get together and be up Anton Dick?

>> Stuart H: Yeah, well, they could, yeah, I know. Are they ever not going to win that award? Because that’s, What is it? They’ve won the national tv award for 20 odd years. There’ll be a year when they don’t. Surely they’ll have to break it before anybody else does.

>> Sarah Moyle: I don’t know.

>> Stuart H: There you go. Oh, yeah. So is it nice though, an award? Is it a good award? Ah, ceremony. Is there a meal on that without one?

>> Sarah Moyle: Or is it just drink, drinks? It’s bonkers. It’s. Of all the awards you can go to, it’s probably one of the least classy.

Only just above the inside soap awards, which is the worst. Never go to that again. Really. They were very snooty about us

Only just above the inside soap awards, which is the worst.

>> Sarah Moyle: Never go to that again. I was awful.

>> Stuart H: Really. Why?

>> Sarah Moyle: They just weren’t interested in us doctors. They were very snooty about us. Yeah. They had a long carpet full of all the people wanting to interview you. And we just got ushered, like. No. no, no. And we kept being ushered and kept.

>> Stuart H: Being ushered, which is weird, isn’t it? Because doctors, I think, does something that the others don’t do because it’s. I mean, for one, just the sheer number of episodes and how. What it covers and how quickly it covers it and. Yeah, you would think. Yeah, actually it sort of sets itself above in that respect.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. I think just because it was daytime, it was sort of looked down upon a bit and obviously much cheaper than every other.

>> Stuart H: Yeah. Hasn’t got the same budget.

There are no soap awards this year, is there not

>> Sarah Moyle: But, there is no inside info. There is no soap awards this year, is there not? I decided to.

>> Stuart H: Are we allowed to broadcast that?

>> Sarah Moyle: Well, I don’t know. I think. I mean, I think it’s common knowledge and I don’t know if it’s because of the Philip Schofield thing.

>> Stuart H: oh. I suppose, like most of these things, they’ve got to pay for themselves somehow.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Because I saw a stat, about the tv ratings and in the top 100 shows, like, the highest rated soap was, like, at number 67 out of the weekly ongoing dramas. And it’s, you know, number one was cool. The midwife. That’s the top watch programme.

>> Sarah Moyle: I’m not surprised because I think people have got so much choice now with streaming stuff that it’s incredible that the draw of, like, a nightly soap is just not as.

>> Stuart H: It’s not the same, is it? No, it’s not the same. There are no.

>> Sarah Moyle: I can’t think.

>> Stuart H: No, I think we’ve just covered all.

>> Sarah Moyle: Everything else in my life. I’m delighted with the world.

>> Stuart H: That’s no bad way to be. But on that, I’ll say thank you very much for coming in.

>> Sarah Moyle: Thank you very much for having me.

>> Stuart H: Been a pleasure. Real pleasure. And, we hopefully will. You’ll come back and talk to us again.

>> Sarah Moyle: Love to. And I cannot wait to see my show.

>> Stuart H: I know, I know. I’m looking forward to seeing it on the catwalk.

>> Sarah Moyle: Yes. Gonna have a very special catwalk. Yeah.

>> Stuart H: Thank you very much.

> Sarah Moyle: Thank you.

Sarah from Superheroes came to talk to us about her superhero name

>> Stuart H: So, a massive thank you to Sarah for taking the time to come and see us and to chat with us. Such a pleasure to sit and chat with her and hear all about her amazing career. did make me think, though, what my superhero name might be. I’ve, not come up with it yet, but if you’ve got a really cool superhero name for yourself, feel free to tweet it to us. We’d love to hear them. As always, a massive thank you to Stuart Wilson for production and editing, to Sam for keeping us on track, and to dat Hazer for the music on our episodes. Until we speak again, do try not to get too shirty.