Mat Riley – Rembrandt…..that gives me the ‘ump

by | Sep 3, 2024

Welcome to Season 2 of The Get Shirty Podcast, with guest Mat Riley.  We kick this season off with a live episode, recorded as part of the Tunbridge Wells Fringe, at The Old Auction House in Tunbridge Wells, July 4th 2024.
Mat appeared on Season 6 of The Great British Bake Off with Mel & Sue, is a fireman, is an author, is an artist, a public speaker, I sound like Brett Goldstein now!  But can he do a live podcast? Yes he can. Hear about why history makes him hot under the collar and some behind the scenes ( I was gonna put scones, but thought it wasn’t quite close enough to scenes for a pun)  secrets of Bake Off!

Hosted by Stuart Hardman, assisted on stage by Sam and #Stu2

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The Transcript:

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What are all these people doing looking at us, Matt?

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Welcome to Get Shirty, the podcast where we ask our guests about the things in life

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that just never failed to irritate and get them all shirty.

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The chat focuses on home, work and going out, but could go anywhere.

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And it’s not all doom and gloom as each guest gets a made to measure shirt which they design,

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so we talk about that too.

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Funny that, us being tailors.

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[Music]

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Welcome to The Get Shirty Podcast.

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Now this is the first episode of season two,

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or if you’re counting from the beginning, this is episode 13 of the official episodes.

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And what’s special about this episode is it’s our very first live podcast.

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This was recorded live in front of an audience, as part of the Tunbridge Wells Fringe Festival,

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and it was recorded at the Old Auction House in Tunbridge Wells.

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And it was with our very special guest, Matt Riley.

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Now, Matt Riley is famously known for being on the Great British Bake Off,

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but as well as that, Matt is also an artist, he’s also a writer,

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and by day and night he’s also a fireman.

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It was a really great thing to come down and be our guest.

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So here we go then, one guest, two mics, three tailors,

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a live audience, and a host of irritations.

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Let’s get shirty.

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[Music]

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Was this your idea?

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It wasn’t actually, it wasn’t.

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Please put your hands together, give a little round of applause for Matt Riley

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from the Great British Bake Off, and I was meant to talk for a little bit longer, I think,

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there, but so, Matt Riley everybody put your hands together.

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Thank you, keep going, keep going.

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So, we’ll have a little chat with Matt.

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Thank you all for coming along today, and thank you especially to you, Matt,

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for coming along too.

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And I will just like to say,

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the person who started this music, who did this music for us, is also in the room,

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DatHazza is over there, put your hand up.

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So that wonderful theme tune was produced by Harry there, a professional named DatHazza.

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Hey, look, that’s the wonders of doing something live, isn’t it?

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So, Matt, welcome to the Get Shirty Podcast. Have you ever done a live podcast before?

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I’ve never done a live podcast before.

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No, me?

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I’ve been live interview though, but my wife, so I imagine this will be

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more gentle, I don’t know, potentially more gentle than she was.

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Let’s see, I mean, I hope so.

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We like to put our guests at ease.

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I think we’re, we’ve got a previous guest with us, I don’t know, hello, go.

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Where are we gentle with you?

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Yes, and the lovely applause.

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We did give you applause.

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Yeah, I don’t.

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Sure, got it as you walked into the shop before, didn’t you?

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So, yeah, but I suppose you’ve been interviewed by your, by your wife,

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I mean, in a venue, that’s, that’s the thought.

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You only had to record it and then it was a podcast, I suppose.

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Yeah, I think so, it was, so, there was an audience, which is fine, but also,

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her pets only in laws were there.

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So, it changes the dynamic a little bit, I think.

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Yeah, that’s true.

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Been interviewed by your wife in front of her parents.

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So you were on best behaviour whilst also feeling quite relaxed.

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Yeah, not so relaxed. But yeah, best behaviour for sure. I think they’re pretty used to me.

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– Yeah. – Now would be married 11 years nearly.

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So, but the questions she chose, I don’t think were necessarily questions that her parents wanted to hear the answer too.

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– I think that was sort of a point, you know. She was a really paxman, really very painfully indebted. – Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, we won’t do that.

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– Let’s see where the conversation goes. Yeah, you never know.

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So, also up on the stage here, and somebody I was meant to say in the intro,

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but also up on stage we have the other members of the Get Shirtye podcast team.

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So, we have Stuart here. There he is.

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– Woohoo! – Always ever. But we have random reports for Stuart.

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So, Stuart, not only Stuart work at Harman & Heming,

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he’s the sort of birthplace of the podcast, but he also edits and produces the podcast as well.

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So, when I’m fumbling and making all the mistakes, Stuart cuts all those out and makes me sound better,

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which is good, which is what he’ll do for this.

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So, when it goes in September? – I won’t be in it at all.

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– Yeah, you know, it just be me, monologuing, like some sort of super millen from…

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But also up on the stage we’ve got Sam as well.

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Sam also works at Harman & Heming, but really from a podcast point of view, he sort of keeps on track.

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And very rarely says anything.

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At the occasional snidey remark, which is always appreciated,

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and make sure that everybody signs the shirt.

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So, the shirt up on stage you can see here has been signed by everybody who has been on the podcast.

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So, that’s good. So, anyway, there’s enough in mind.

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So, as the intro says, the idea behind the podcast is to talk about tailoring a little bit,

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but really we sort of put that to one side, but also to talk about the things in life that get us sure to.

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So, and what I like to think of as the Mars bar trifecta “Work, Rest and Play”

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– Yeah, yeah. – Is that where we look at it?

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If anybody, there’s a few people who knew, won’t remember the Mars bar advert, so no.

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– Oh, yeah, I’m on it. – Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I thought they were quite recent, though, as of ’cause until I looked it up there, really not.

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Do you remember the words to the Milky Way advert with the red car and the blue car?

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Do you know I don’t?

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Well, I like to make… Well, it sounds like you do.

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– I do. – I do.

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– You say you sell fun to that one? – Yeah, car.

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– Do anyone else remember it? – Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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– I already know the start. – The red car and the blue car.

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– Blue car had a race, but I read once I do,

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– What’s the first thing he eats every day and he sees from trucks to prickly trees,

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the poor old blue heat truck, the Milky Way, that’s the advert, the Milky Way.

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– Yeah, I remember the guy who falls in the ravine.

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– Yeah, so yeah, I do remember that.

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– So, yeah, so that’s pretty good actually.

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– Not too bad, I’m glad I sang that early on.

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– Do you know?

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– Something that, yeah, we are, because I think nearly every guest is some.

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– Oh, really? – Yeah.

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– Oh, wow, yeah, okay.

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I’ll have to listen back to you.

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I’m pretty sure every guest that we’ve had is some,

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from even if it was just a little bit, we had Mike sang the whole

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French national anthem.

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– Wow. – Yeah, I know, it was quite impressive.

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– Is he French? – No.

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– Oh, okay. – Even more impressive.

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(laughing)

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So, from the– – Not so impressive, he sees French.

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– Yeah, you know?

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– No, but it’s not the only anthem, so anyway, go back to the start.

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This tonight’s about you.

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So, let’s start with work, what Get Shirtyes now.

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For those who don’t know what you do, you are–

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– I am a firefighter, is my fighter, is there sort of day job?

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That is my day job, and night job, day N night job.

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– Right. – I’ve been doing it for,

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since 2011, I joined, there’s two different types of firefighting, okay?

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There’s, like, a whole time firefighting,

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where you’re at the fire station, you work there, you sleep there,

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you’re there all the time.

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– Yeah. – And then there’s retained, or on call.

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So, I started on call first.

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– Right. – And he sat six, 2008, and then I went to London.

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For the big smoke.

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– The big smoke, literally. – And that was during that time

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that you went on vacation.

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– So, yeah, that was when I– – Yeah.

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Do you know, so,

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you do four days, you do four days, on four days off,

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that was the traditional firefighter shift pattern.

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So, it just came you time to start, like,

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baking things, and that’s what that led to.

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But, yeah, so, there we go, there’s a picture there of me in London,

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when I was young and fresh. – Okay, let’s get it.

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Turn your cooker off.

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– There we go, remember that. – Yeah, that was what we did.

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– That was important. – The black uniform, that was the best one.

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– Was that the sexier of the– – Yeah, that was,

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I’m also very slimming, – Oh, yeah, because it was,

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it yellow. – It’s yellow now, yeah, it’s not so good now.

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– That’s not quite bedroom colour, is it?

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– Well, I could be– – No.

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– Anybody here like the yellow for the bedroom colour?

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– No, you know us. – No, I’m personally, didn’t,

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look at the, my children, the audience there.

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So, you started baking there.

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– Yeah. – And so, is there anything about being a firefighter?

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And that is, like, yeah, they’re the things that get me

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sure to about this job.

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– Yeah, so, the, the sort of best and the worst bits

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of being in the fire brigade is you see people,

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at those who think, see people, they’re generally,

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if they’re calling 999, so bad has happened, right?

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And they want your help, and those people, I will

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happily give my help to. – Of course.

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– There are other people who phone 999 because

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they’re pissed and they can’t, don’t know where the house keys are,

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and they want us to get in their house.

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We used to get that a lot in London, so they go, yeah,

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and suddenly phone up and go, yeah, I’ve left my gas on.

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it’s a wee turn up, so your gas is on, and they go, yeah,

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can you get in and you go, yeah, we’ll smash your door down with this,

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enforcer, and they go, oh, I thought you’d just be

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I’d get in the door and you go, no, you wanted a locksmith.

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– Love me, right. – We had a fire brigade,

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and if there’s a love anon in there, we need to get,

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oh, no, I didn’t think you’d gonna break my door down.

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– All right. – What, I don’t know what you thought I was going to do,

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because it’s three o’clock in the morning in your pissed, and, yeah.

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– I thought you were gonna give them like a little leg out.

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– Yeah, they thought we had like, you know,

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– They’d climb me through the fan like window.

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– A couple of old hair pins that you’re gonna pick their lock with,

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but, so, yeah, that’s… – Like, taken.

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– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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– But, so, that, I’m not, that’s not so fun,

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but, yeah, I mean, generally people are really good,

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or really thankful that you’re there.

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– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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– But we did have a, we had a woman,

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last month, who said, we got called out, it’s a long way away,

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to say where it is, because it was round here.

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– All right. – But we had a long way to a house.

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– Yeah. – Sam.

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– No, it wasn’t.

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And then you got there, and so, you’re driving on like blue lights.

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– Yeah. – So, it’s quite a dangerous thing,

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and it’s driving a fire engine through towns and villages,

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and people are getting out to take your word for it.

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– Yeah, I mean, it turns out like for other people,

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you know, you could have an accident doing that,

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and then you got there and she went,

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“Oh, my alarm’s gone off, it’s nothing,

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but at least I got you out from drinking tea all afternoon.”

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– All right. – That dude got me quite sure.

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– Yeah. – Because there’s other things

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we could be doing, like, you know.

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– Me, you were drinking.

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– I was drinking tea, yeah, granted.

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– Yeah. – But, you know, that’s,

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I was always drinking tea. – Yeah, that’s, that’s a given.

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But yeah, so there’s people who are overly thankful

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that you go there.

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– Yeah, it’s a bit, it’s strange there, isn’t it?

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– Yeah. – It’s like that,

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the thought that that’s okay for me to do that.

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– No, that’s something that I can just do,

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because my desire for it sort of justifies the need.

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And like, I mean, is that a get-shirt here,

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is that like, actually, about 10 stages of bubbles?

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– I don’t know, like, it is very much part of the job.

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We’ve had it, similarly, I met a murmur in London,

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where the guy’s toilet had flooded,

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and it’s just water was coming out everywhere.

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And it was quite a scene.

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We turned up, he was topless with a broken arm,

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and it was loads of people in his phone garden,

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and he went, “Oh, probably shouldn’t have phoned you,

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“or probably should have phoned a plumber, should not have,

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“and I went, “yeah, you should have really.”

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And we went in his house, and then we turned his mains

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to his water off to his house, because the toilet was there,

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you know, just going everywhere, and he went,

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“Well, I haven’t got any water now,

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“he went, “no, you haven’t.”

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But we also had plumbas,

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but we could turn the water off to your house,

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and he went, “Well, I forgot I found my landlord,

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“can I borrow your phone?”

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– I went, “What do you mean?”

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And he was at the point, so he had,

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he was a huck, a pitri-hemp, yeah, topless, ominous ling,

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bottle of white wine, yeah.

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Anyway, can I borrow your phone?

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I’ve got no minutes on my phone.

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– All right.

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– And I went, “No, you can’t borrow my phone.”

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And, yeah, those sort of people, and it’s an absolute,

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you sort my shit out,

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– Yeah.

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– And phoned my landlord for me.

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– Yeah, so he, you know, you also,

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similarly, goes to other people who are so desperately need

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to get help, and they’re so thankful, you know,

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and, you know, it’s their minority.

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They’re the ones who don’t turn you into a giant sort of

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telephone box with flashing lights

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that rushes through the street for them here.

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– Yeah.

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– Yeah, shocking.

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Yeah, see, I think for me, that would push me

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beyond the get-shurty, tell you.

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– What’s above-shurty?

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Well, this is something we’ve talked about quite a lot,

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those sort of,

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– Euraked.

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– You slightly irritated, and then you sort of get in,

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’cause get-shurty sort of somewhere slightly,

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it’s above-miffed, I don’t know,

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would we say get-shurty’s above-miffed, but below-

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– Below-miffed.

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– Below-miffed. – Below-miffed.

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Yeah, it’s get-shurty-tetchy,

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are we putting those at the same thing?

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Get in a cob on, yeah, like that could be in there, so.

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– Yeah.

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– So-

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– Get-shurty-tetchy.

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– One below-tetchy, yeah, that could be the thing, couldn’t it?

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– You just want to tell us a bit about that,

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that could be the side.

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– How is the honesty?

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– Is it all right now?

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– How’s the toilet?

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– Is it better?

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– Is it still leaking?

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– And have you topped up your phone?

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– Yes.

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– Yeah, good, excellent.

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Good, good.

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Oh, you’re saying, I think that’s sort of fairly,

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I think they’re understandable, it’s just really.

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So, yeah, what about the other side of what you do,

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like baking, really that’s your job too?

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– I’d say, in a sort of, in a weird way,

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that I find that more stressful than-

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– Than being fun.

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– Tent you going into a burning building, yeah?

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– Yeah, really.

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– It’s genuinely, it can be quite stressful.

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– That ain’t right, man.

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– I couldn’t wake up whether to bring it up or not,

303
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but is this the point where we bring out

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the Royal icing incident?

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– I mean, yeah, I’m happy to talk about it,

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and how much have you talked about that?

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– A lot.

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– Does everybody know about the Royal icing?

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– An incident.

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– It’s, so, what happens was,

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please, do it,

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because I’ll, I’ll, I’ll tell you what I did,

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and then I’ll tell you the reason I did it.

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So, I baked some Royal icing,

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and if you’re not into baking-

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– Oh, one national television, one national television.

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– That’s a challenge, yeah.

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– You know, still, right?

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So, what happened?

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It was a technical challenge, one in bake,

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if you haven’t watched bake,

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if you get this technical challenge,

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you’ve got a gingham sheet,

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and you have to lift it up and edge it.

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– Strail.

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– Strail, you’ve got to then bake what it says underneath it,

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and it’s usually something weird and obscure

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that you’ve never heard of,

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or made in your life,

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so everyone’s on a level playing field, yeah.

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This, particularly one,

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I think his Victorian week was a tennis cake,

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so there’s got to be a, like a fruit cake

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with a tennis court on top.

335
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– Yeah.

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– And it said, I did all that bit, and I made the cake,

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which, I’d also like to point out, was, was shit as well.

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– Oh, was it? – The cake,

339
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the cake was worse than the bit that they really focused on,

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which, you know, which is fine,

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that said it in, and it made it dramatic.

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So, I made the cake,

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and then it said, make the Royal icing,

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and I didn’t know what Royal icing was, right?

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Now, still now, there’s loads of things I don’t,

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I was never a baker, I was a firefighter

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who accidentally ended up on bake off.

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So, it said, make Royal icing, so I did it,

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and I was looking around,

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and people were like rolling out Royal icing,

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and I had like a liquid,

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like a green, it’s gonna be like,

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the lawn of a tennis court.

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Like this lick like slime,

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it’s like this isn’t the same as everyone else is doing,

356
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but I carried on, I personally didn’t do it,

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and then, so that was really,

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I was trying to like, spread it on like butter, as opposed to like,

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cut it out and place it on top,

360
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and then it said, make the net,

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and make some tennis racquets,

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and then the next thing I looked down was,

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bake for whatever, so,

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in my haste of trying to get everything done,

365
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it’s what you’ve got a time, isn’t it?

366
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– Yeah, yeah.

367
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– I saw those two things together, put it in the oven,

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and it turns out you don’t bake Royal icing, right?

369
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Which I didn’t know, and obviously, that was a,

370
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it’s a really lovely clip of me in Nadia,

371
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and I heard her realising that, but,

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– I did, what’s that you also?

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– Don’t show, it’s my net and tennis racquet stood up.

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– All right, okay.

375
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– Because I was in front of the curve, and I’d baked it.

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– All right.

377
00:17:29,180 –> 00:17:31,940
– No one else had thought I’d have to make it sturdy,

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– Yeah, yeah, to do the job.

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– I think it is a matter of time before,

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– Being in Royal icing is baked.

381
00:17:40,780 –> 00:17:43,340
But the cake was shit, and it looked really dreadful, yeah.

382
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I think Paul Hollywood said it looked like

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the tennis court from Hades, which is, you know.

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– And so, is he, I mean, is it they do their bit

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and then walk off and then you don’t really see them

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for the rest of the day, or are they, you know,

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are they kind of around and interact?

388
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– So yeah, a little bit of both, really.

389
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I think there’d been criticism previously

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of them being around too much, so,

391
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but I think I was on Series 6, 5 or 6, 6.

392
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So they did very much come in, talk to you,

393
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– Right.

394
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– Judged you and then leave.

395
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– Okay.

396
00:18:18,460 –> 00:18:21,020
– ‘Cause it was still, it was Mary.

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– Yeah, it was Mary.

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00:18:21,860 –> 00:18:23,780
So I hang, I spoke to Mary a lot more.

399
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She was quite interested in, like,

400
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smoke alarms.

401
00:18:28,260 –> 00:18:30,380
– Right, and how many smoke alarms she should have in her house.

402
00:18:30,380 –> 00:18:33,620
So that was like a regular chat, you know.

403
00:18:33,620 –> 00:18:34,940
– Find out, then you might get on the show.

404
00:18:34,940 –> 00:18:36,940
– We did it, because it’s really,

405
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360 talk and it’s fire alarms.

406
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(laughs)

407
00:18:40,460 –> 00:18:42,980
But, yeah, he came in, does his bit and go,

408
00:18:42,980 –> 00:18:44,580
but I was there with Mel and Sue,

409
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so the original like, DBC one,

410
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and they were around the whole time, like.

411
00:18:47,580 –> 00:18:48,420
– Right, okay.

412
00:18:48,420 –> 00:18:49,260
– But quite a lot of the time,

413
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so I do my baking really quickly,

414
00:18:51,100 –> 00:18:52,380
and this, again, won’t surprise you,

415
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no, I do my really quickly,

416
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and then sit at the front and drink tea,

417
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’cause you can get, turn that, you can get tea,

418
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all the time,

419
00:19:00,780 –> 00:19:02,180
and then you get anything you need, yeah, like,

420
00:19:02,180 –> 00:19:03,020
– Some of that, I can’t.

421
00:19:03,020 –> 00:19:03,860
– And I get another cup of tea,

422
00:19:03,860 –> 00:19:04,740
so I just sat down a lot,

423
00:19:04,740 –> 00:19:07,380
’cause some bits, I think we’re in a tent

424
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on one of the weeks, 15 hours.

425
00:19:09,300 –> 00:19:10,140
– Right, okay.

426
00:19:10,140 –> 00:19:11,260
– By the time you’ve done stuff,

427
00:19:11,260 –> 00:19:13,580
and, yeah, look at that, there he is.

428
00:19:13,580 –> 00:19:14,900
– Perfect.

429
00:19:14,900 –> 00:19:15,900
– Ah, young, yeah.

430
00:19:15,900 –> 00:19:17,020
– And, so handsome.

431
00:19:17,020 –> 00:19:18,700
– So, if anything, you’ve got more handsome.

432
00:19:18,700 –> 00:19:19,540
– Thank you.

433
00:19:19,540 –> 00:19:20,380
– That’s all right.

434
00:19:20,380 –> 00:19:21,700
– Yeah. – I’ll say that to all the guests.

435
00:19:21,700 –> 00:19:23,380
But, it’s a long time,

436
00:19:23,380 –> 00:19:24,220
you’re doing a lot of stuff,

437
00:19:24,220 –> 00:19:25,380
and there’s bits of like,

438
00:19:25,380 –> 00:19:26,460
bake for an hour.

439
00:19:26,460 –> 00:19:27,260
– Yeah.

440
00:19:27,260 –> 00:19:29,140
– So, yeah, it’s a lot of waiting around.

441
00:19:29,140 –> 00:19:31,380
– And, is it, so the things,

442
00:19:31,380 –> 00:19:34,020
if anybody, if we’ve got time,

443
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I’ll do a quick Q and A at the end,

444
00:19:35,380 –> 00:19:36,380
so think of some questions,

445
00:19:36,380 –> 00:19:39,700
but, if anybody’s, for me,

446
00:19:39,700 –> 00:19:41,140
the thing, I look at a program like that,

447
00:19:41,140 –> 00:19:42,900
and I think how manufactured is it?

448
00:19:42,900 –> 00:19:43,740
You know, is it like,

449
00:19:43,740 –> 00:19:44,900
you’ve got an hour, but actually,

450
00:19:44,900 –> 00:19:46,980
you’ve got an hour and a half,

451
00:19:46,980 –> 00:19:49,180
but, you know, 20 minutes of that,

452
00:19:49,180 –> 00:19:50,820
it’s been interviewed about the thing you’re doing,

453
00:19:50,820 –> 00:19:53,060
or is it, it’s a hard, vast hour,

454
00:19:53,060 –> 00:19:54,300
and that’s what you get.

455
00:19:54,300 –> 00:19:56,220
– Absolutely, so, I think they work it out,

456
00:19:56,220 –> 00:19:58,180
and they’ll go, “This cake takes four hours to make,

457
00:19:58,180 –> 00:19:59,420
“we’re giving three and a half hours,

458
00:19:59,420 –> 00:20:01,300
“because it is ridiculous,

459
00:20:01,300 –> 00:20:03,300
“how little amount of time you’ve got.”

460
00:20:03,300 –> 00:20:05,500
And then they’ll come over and go,

461
00:20:05,500 –> 00:20:07,300
“Oh, tell us about the, how much,

462
00:20:07,300 –> 00:20:09,460
“lemon you put in in your Madera cake?”

463
00:20:09,460 –> 00:20:10,820
I don’t know what I’m doing in Northern Mexico.

464
00:20:10,820 –> 00:20:11,660
That’s what I was saying.

465
00:20:11,660 –> 00:20:12,660
– I’m all ready with you.

466
00:20:12,660 –> 00:20:13,500
– I don’t know, you can do it.

467
00:20:13,500 –> 00:20:14,660
– I like it, here you go.

468
00:20:14,660 –> 00:20:17,420
– So, yeah, you really sort of run out of time,

469
00:20:17,420 –> 00:20:18,980
really quickly, but then,

470
00:20:18,980 –> 00:20:21,380
so they really, they really, really do stick to it.

471
00:20:21,380 –> 00:20:22,380
– Right, okay.

472
00:20:22,380 –> 00:20:24,220
– Yeah, it’s really, so,

473
00:20:24,220 –> 00:20:25,620
– Is the interview annoying?

474
00:20:25,620 –> 00:20:27,980
Do you just want them to go away?

475
00:20:27,980 –> 00:20:30,140
– The first couple of weeks,

476
00:20:30,140 –> 00:20:31,060
it’s all very exciting,

477
00:20:31,060 –> 00:20:34,460
and, ’cause they go around everyone’s counter,

478
00:20:34,460 –> 00:20:35,460
and they’re like, “Oh, I’m coming out here,

479
00:20:35,460 –> 00:20:36,300
“you come out here.”

480
00:20:36,300 –> 00:20:37,140
– Yeah, they come out here.

481
00:20:37,140 –> 00:20:40,300
And, yeah, probably like week four onwards, you like,

482
00:20:40,300 –> 00:20:42,540
“I’ve got time for this poll, Mary,

483
00:20:42,540 –> 00:20:44,820
“I recommend a smoke alarm in each room.”

484
00:20:44,820 –> 00:20:45,820
It’s moving on.

485
00:20:45,820 –> 00:20:46,660
(laughing)

486
00:20:46,660 –> 00:20:48,620
– And it’s guy, I’ve baked you a smoke alarm,

487
00:20:48,620 –> 00:20:50,100
just go away.

488
00:20:50,100 –> 00:20:52,340
– Right, okay, it’s interesting,

489
00:20:52,340 –> 00:20:53,340
’cause you always sort of think,

490
00:20:53,340 –> 00:20:56,060
“Oh, there’s a little, there’s a little, no.”

491
00:20:56,060 –> 00:20:57,900
I suppose it’s the,

492
00:20:57,900 –> 00:21:00,060
did you watch the James A. Castellon?

493
00:21:00,060 –> 00:21:00,900
– Yeah.

494
00:21:00,900 –> 00:21:01,740
– Yeah, it was a little,

495
00:21:01,740 –> 00:21:04,100
he had a proper sort of meltdown,

496
00:21:04,100 –> 00:21:04,940
– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

497
00:21:04,940 –> 00:21:06,740
– I know, I’ve sorted it too.

498
00:21:06,740 –> 00:21:07,580
– I’ve sorted it too, yeah.

499
00:21:07,580 –> 00:21:08,420
– Did you?

500
00:21:08,420 –> 00:21:09,580
– Yeah, I did.

501
00:21:09,580 –> 00:21:10,740
– I think he genuinely did.

502
00:21:10,740 –> 00:21:11,740
– Yeah.

503
00:21:11,740 –> 00:21:12,900
– Okay, I’m having a breakdown.

504
00:21:12,900 –> 00:21:14,340
– I’d have baked a cake.

505
00:21:14,340 –> 00:21:15,660
– Yeah, I’d have baked a cake.

506
00:21:15,660 –> 00:21:16,500
– I’d have baked a bon appetit.

507
00:21:16,500 –> 00:21:17,340
– Bon appetit, yeah.

508
00:21:17,340 –> 00:21:20,740
– But it is, is he,

509
00:21:20,740 –> 00:21:22,900
it’s really, so yeah, first week,

510
00:21:22,900 –> 00:21:24,420
I found really stressful,

511
00:21:24,420 –> 00:21:26,420
because on absolute fraud, I’d be in there.

512
00:21:26,420 –> 00:21:27,260
– Right.

513
00:21:27,260 –> 00:21:28,860
– So, I was on,

514
00:21:28,860 –> 00:21:31,620
with a girl called Flora,

515
00:21:31,620 –> 00:21:32,620
who was in my,

516
00:21:32,620 –> 00:21:33,460
she was, I think,

517
00:21:33,460 –> 00:21:34,460
she won at the time.

518
00:21:34,460 –> 00:21:37,340
And when we first met in a hotel,

519
00:21:37,340 –> 00:21:38,780
so the day before we started filming,

520
00:21:38,780 –> 00:21:39,740
everyone makes her the first time,

521
00:21:39,740 –> 00:21:40,780
everyone’s overly polite,

522
00:21:40,780 –> 00:21:43,460
and she was showing me photos on her phone,

523
00:21:43,460 –> 00:21:44,380
of things she’d baked.

524
00:21:44,380 –> 00:21:45,220
And she said,

525
00:21:45,220 –> 00:21:46,180
“Oh, that’s blah, blah,

526
00:21:46,180 –> 00:21:47,460
and that’s filled with,

527
00:21:47,460 –> 00:21:48,900
I know, like,

528
00:21:48,900 –> 00:21:50,060
a frangipan or whatever.”

529
00:21:50,060 –> 00:21:50,900
– Yeah, right.

530
00:21:50,900 –> 00:21:51,740
– And I said,

531
00:21:51,740 –> 00:21:52,900
“Oh, what’s frangipan?”

532
00:21:52,900 –> 00:21:54,180
And she laughed,

533
00:21:54,180 –> 00:21:55,340
(laughing)

534
00:21:55,340 –> 00:21:56,820
“I’m so happy.”

535
00:21:56,820 –> 00:21:58,660
And then seven weeks later,

536
00:21:58,660 –> 00:21:59,500
when I stood there,

537
00:21:59,500 –> 00:22:00,340
she went,

538
00:22:00,340 –> 00:22:01,660
“I know,

539
00:22:01,660 –> 00:22:03,340
“no, that you didn’t know what frangipa

540
00:22:03,340 –> 00:22:04,860
“how are you here?”

541
00:22:04,860 –> 00:22:05,700
And I was like,

542
00:22:05,700 –> 00:22:06,700
“I don’t know.”

543
00:22:06,700 –> 00:22:08,980
And it was because, I think,

544
00:22:08,980 –> 00:22:10,300
after week one,

545
00:22:10,300 –> 00:22:11,980
when someone did worse than me.

546
00:22:11,980 –> 00:22:13,100
And that’s all you got to do in it,

547
00:22:13,100 –> 00:22:14,300
just not be the worst.

548
00:22:14,300 –> 00:22:15,140
– Yes, yes.

549
00:22:15,140 –> 00:22:15,980
– Yeah, yeah.

550
00:22:15,980 –> 00:22:16,820
– After week one,

551
00:22:16,820 –> 00:22:17,660
so that’s all right.

552
00:22:17,660 –> 00:22:18,500
And then week two,

553
00:22:18,500 –> 00:22:19,660
you sort of go,

554
00:22:19,660 –> 00:22:20,500
“Okay, that was fine.

555
00:22:20,500 –> 00:22:21,500
“If I go now,

556
00:22:21,500 –> 00:22:22,300
“that’s not dreadful, was it?”

557
00:22:22,300 –> 00:22:23,140
– Yeah.

558
00:22:23,140 –> 00:22:23,980
– And then,

559
00:22:23,980 –> 00:22:26,980
is it really stressful,

560
00:22:26,980 –> 00:22:27,820
but,

561
00:22:27,820 –> 00:22:29,300
like, at work,

562
00:22:29,300 –> 00:22:30,820
if something goes wrong,

563
00:22:30,820 –> 00:22:31,660
people die,

564
00:22:31,660 –> 00:22:32,500
I could die.

565
00:22:32,500 –> 00:22:34,180
People die.

566
00:22:34,180 –> 00:22:35,020
That’s it.

567
00:22:35,020 –> 00:22:36,180
(laughing)

568
00:22:36,180 –> 00:22:38,060
But people do die.

569
00:22:38,060 –> 00:22:39,060
If I make,

570
00:22:39,060 –> 00:22:41,860
if it goes wrong in a tent,

571
00:22:41,860 –> 00:22:42,700
– Yeah.

572
00:22:42,700 –> 00:22:43,740
– In Newbury,

573
00:22:43,740 –> 00:22:45,780
to someone that’s a shit cake.

574
00:22:45,780 –> 00:22:46,620
Do you know what I mean?

575
00:22:46,620 –> 00:22:47,460
– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

576
00:22:47,460 –> 00:22:48,300
– It’s pretty stressful.

577
00:22:48,300 –> 00:22:49,540
– But it isn’t really that bad.

578
00:22:49,540 –> 00:22:50,700
– It’s a bit surety, really.

579
00:22:50,700 –> 00:22:51,860
– Yeah, it is just a bit,

580
00:22:51,860 –> 00:22:52,940
oh god, you know.

581
00:22:52,940 –> 00:22:54,780
– You can’t get a cake out of shit as well.

582
00:22:54,780 –> 00:22:56,180
(laughing)

583
00:22:56,180 –> 00:22:57,180
– Yeah, they ended it,

584
00:22:57,180 –> 00:22:58,020
that one happened.

585
00:22:58,020 –> 00:22:58,860
– I know,

586
00:22:58,860 –> 00:22:59,860
– I know,

587
00:22:59,860 –> 00:23:01,100
– I won’t make this shit now,

588
00:23:01,100 –> 00:23:01,940
that is.

589
00:23:01,940 –> 00:23:03,340
But yeah, it is stressful

590
00:23:03,340 –> 00:23:04,460
because you get filled.

591
00:23:04,460 –> 00:23:05,300
– Yeah, yeah.

592
00:23:05,300 –> 00:23:06,620
– And you don’t want to look a complete

593
00:23:06,620 –> 00:23:07,740
walley on telling.

594
00:23:07,740 –> 00:23:08,900
– Yeah.

595
00:23:08,900 –> 00:23:10,460
– Until you’re about your eye seeing it.

596
00:23:10,460 –> 00:23:11,300
– It is.

597
00:23:11,300 –> 00:23:12,620
– A clip forever.

598
00:23:12,620 –> 00:23:13,460
– But the thing is,

599
00:23:13,460 –> 00:23:14,740
it’s those sorts of things

600
00:23:14,740 –> 00:23:15,620
that’s, you know,

601
00:23:15,620 –> 00:23:16,980
really, you don’t want to watch

602
00:23:16,980 –> 00:23:18,460
everybody do a fantastic cake.

603
00:23:18,460 –> 00:23:19,980
You don’t want everybody to be brilliant.

604
00:23:19,980 –> 00:23:21,060
You want there to,

605
00:23:21,060 –> 00:23:21,740
you know,

606
00:23:21,740 –> 00:23:23,340
as soon as something starts going wrong,

607
00:23:23,340 –> 00:23:25,300
do you see like the camera men start?

608
00:23:25,300 –> 00:23:26,300
– Oh yeah,

609
00:23:26,300 –> 00:23:27,140
– Starts,

610
00:23:27,140 –> 00:23:27,980
yeah,

611
00:23:27,980 –> 00:23:28,820
– Not sharks.

612
00:23:28,820 –> 00:23:29,660
– Absolutely, yeah.

613
00:23:29,660 –> 00:23:30,500
So, I,

614
00:23:30,500 –> 00:23:31,340
yeah,

615
00:23:31,340 –> 00:23:32,980
I think the fake off will be getting filmed at the moment,

616
00:23:32,980 –> 00:23:33,820
I’m sure,

617
00:23:33,820 –> 00:23:34,820
or finished really come out.

618
00:23:34,820 –> 00:23:35,660
So they go,

619
00:23:35,660 –> 00:23:38,220
in terms of you’re talking about time,

620
00:23:38,220 –> 00:23:39,220
they’ll say,

621
00:23:39,220 –> 00:23:40,860
“If you’re going to put something in the oven,

622
00:23:40,860 –> 00:23:41,700
let us know,

623
00:23:41,700 –> 00:23:42,700
give us a little wave,

624
00:23:42,700 –> 00:23:43,700
and we’ll come over and we’ll film it going in,

625
00:23:43,700 –> 00:23:44,700
because they want to see that,

626
00:23:44,700 –> 00:23:45,540
you know, it goes in,

627
00:23:45,540 –> 00:23:46,540
it’s a nice shot in it,

628
00:23:46,540 –> 00:23:48,020
and then,

629
00:23:48,020 –> 00:23:48,860
give us a wave

630
00:23:48,860 –> 00:23:50,300
and you’re going to get something out of the oven,

631
00:23:50,300 –> 00:23:51,380
and then we can film that,

632
00:23:51,380 –> 00:23:52,380
and if it looks good and you go,

633
00:23:52,380 –> 00:23:54,940
“Oh, Christ, I’ve burnt that, or whatever.”

634
00:23:54,940 –> 00:23:55,780
So here,

635
00:23:55,780 –> 00:23:56,620
“Weat one,

636
00:23:56,620 –> 00:23:57,460
hello, camera men,

637
00:23:57,460 –> 00:23:58,260
they’ll come over and they’ll film it,

638
00:23:58,260 –> 00:23:59,100
that’s lovely.”

639
00:23:59,100 –> 00:23:59,940
And you’re like, again, week two,

640
00:23:59,940 –> 00:24:00,980
you’re like,

641
00:24:00,980 –> 00:24:03,420
“I’ve got time for weight for you to walk from over there to here,

642
00:24:03,420 –> 00:24:07,140
for me to get these flapjacks out, or whatever, you know?”

643
00:24:07,140 –> 00:24:07,980
Yeah.

644
00:24:07,980 –> 00:24:08,980
But yeah, so it is,

645
00:24:08,980 –> 00:24:12,100
it is stressful,

646
00:24:12,100 –> 00:24:13,020
and they do sort of come round,

647
00:24:13,020 –> 00:24:14,780
they want to see all the bits where it goes,

648
00:24:14,780 –> 00:24:15,980
potentially goes wrong.

649
00:24:15,980 –> 00:24:17,940
If you don’t tell them that’s about to happen,

650
00:24:17,940 –> 00:24:18,780
yeah.

651
00:24:18,780 –> 00:24:19,620
Yeah.

652
00:24:19,620 –> 00:24:20,460
And boy,

653
00:24:20,460 –> 00:24:21,620
do you say somebody sort of,

654
00:24:21,620 –> 00:24:22,460
a lock of a juicer,

655
00:24:22,460 –> 00:24:24,500
or something wandering around going on?

656
00:24:24,500 –> 00:24:25,340
Yeah.

657
00:24:25,340 –> 00:24:26,340
There’s tears on the way.

658
00:24:26,340 –> 00:24:27,180
Yeah.

659
00:24:27,180 –> 00:24:28,500
“Did you manage not to cry on bake off a car in a minute?”

660
00:24:28,500 –> 00:24:29,340
“I didn’t cry in a minute.”

661
00:24:29,340 –> 00:24:30,180
“I didn’t cry.”

662
00:24:30,180 –> 00:24:32,260
“We can make that the mission for the podcast,

663
00:24:32,260 –> 00:24:33,100
if you ever cry on a podcast.”

664
00:24:33,100 –> 00:24:33,940
“You don’t have a wife?”

665
00:24:33,940 –> 00:24:35,900
“I’ve talked about wife that crying over, Dave.”

666
00:24:35,900 –> 00:24:37,340
“I’ve been crying for a long time.”

667
00:24:37,340 –> 00:24:38,740
“I think there might be a problem.”

668
00:24:38,740 –> 00:24:39,580
Yeah.

669
00:24:39,580 –> 00:24:43,300
“Well, I don’t see it as the podcast job to unlock it,

670
00:24:43,300 –> 00:24:45,420
but we can’t work, we can work,

671
00:24:45,420 –> 00:24:47,540
I can’t wait for it if you like.”

672
00:24:47,540 –> 00:24:49,700
But, yeah, so, no, so,

673
00:24:49,700 –> 00:24:51,780
but generally, you know,

674
00:24:51,780 –> 00:24:54,340
the bake off thing was a positive thing,

675
00:24:54,340 –> 00:24:56,620
nothing to get surety about that.

676
00:24:56,620 –> 00:24:58,620
I don’t know what it was, it was…

677
00:24:58,620 –> 00:25:03,500
Yeah, like I said to you before we started this,

678
00:25:03,500 –> 00:25:05,180
I applied whilst in the firebig on,

679
00:25:05,180 –> 00:25:08,260
I’ve made some biscuits, it came up.

680
00:25:08,260 –> 00:25:09,580
If you want to be on next year’s show,

681
00:25:09,580 –> 00:25:11,180
whilst you were watching at the fire station,

682
00:25:11,180 –> 00:25:13,620
and they went, “You should go, and you made biscuits.”

683
00:25:13,620 –> 00:25:17,820
So I applied, absolutely did my application form

684
00:25:17,820 –> 00:25:18,660
as a sort of joke.

685
00:25:18,660 –> 00:25:19,500
There was a question,

686
00:25:19,500 –> 00:25:20,500
this sort of came back,

687
00:25:20,500 –> 00:25:23,940
not to haunt me, came back to haunt me in a positive way.

688
00:25:23,940 –> 00:25:26,660
On the question here, it was on the application form,

689
00:25:26,660 –> 00:25:30,660
it was, what is your ultimate dream in life?

690
00:25:30,660 –> 00:25:33,020
It was one of them, and people were writing things like,

691
00:25:33,020 –> 00:25:34,860
“One day I’d like to work in a French Patisserie,

692
00:25:34,860 –> 00:25:36,820
“I’d like to work with Michelle Rue.”

693
00:25:36,820 –> 00:25:40,260
And I put, “One day I’d really like to own a dishwasher,”

694
00:25:40,260 –> 00:25:42,700
which then, when I finished bake off,

695
00:25:42,700 –> 00:25:44,020
and that went out, and people relighted that

696
00:25:44,020 –> 00:25:44,860
and the press got old of it,

697
00:25:44,860 –> 00:25:47,500
and it was all, you know, this boat, for a lot of,

698
00:25:47,500 –> 00:25:49,420
the first thing I’d got was a dishwasher,

699
00:25:49,420 –> 00:25:52,860
and I wish I’d then said, like, a Bentley or something,

700
00:25:52,860 –> 00:25:56,100
but yeah, so everything after that was really positive,

701
00:25:56,100 –> 00:25:58,260
and I loved all the social media stuff I did,

702
00:25:58,260 –> 00:26:00,540
and the working with brands and traveling,

703
00:26:00,540 –> 00:26:03,220
and I was getting, like, I got interviewed

704
00:26:03,220 –> 00:26:05,820
on a film premiere next to Joan Collins,

705
00:26:05,820 –> 00:26:07,500
which was, do you know what I mean?

706
00:26:07,500 –> 00:26:09,740
That is things that would, I say,

707
00:26:09,740 –> 00:26:11,820
– By the one of the philanthropists, I imagine.

708
00:26:11,820 –> 00:26:13,660
– I said, yes, loads of things that sort of came up,

709
00:26:13,660 –> 00:26:14,780
because I thought, “I’m out of my hair,

710
00:26:14,780 –> 00:26:17,740
“sort of by mistake, let’s roll it in, yeah, let’s go.”

711
00:26:17,740 –> 00:26:19,900
– I think that’s the right attitude for, really.

712
00:26:19,900 –> 00:26:21,460
What was the film with Joan Collins?

713
00:26:21,460 –> 00:26:22,940
– I can’t remember, was there really,

714
00:26:22,940 –> 00:26:24,300
– Can you not even remember what the film was?

715
00:26:24,300 –> 00:26:25,140
– No.

716
00:26:25,140 –> 00:26:27,340
– But yeah, she was there, she smelled wonderful.

717
00:26:27,340 –> 00:26:28,180
– Did she?

718
00:26:28,180 –> 00:26:29,020
– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

719
00:26:29,020 –> 00:26:30,340
She got out of a much nicer cake.

720
00:26:30,340 –> 00:26:31,340
– Like cake.

721
00:26:31,340 –> 00:26:33,460
– Yeah, like, like, baked icing.

722
00:26:33,460 –> 00:26:34,300
– Yeah.

723
00:26:34,300 –> 00:26:36,420
(laughing)

724
00:26:36,420 –> 00:26:37,740
– That’s a, that’s a thought.

725
00:26:37,740 –> 00:26:41,180
Probably, as she got there sort of a nearer of baked icing,

726
00:26:41,180 –> 00:26:42,020
up close.

727
00:26:42,020 –> 00:26:45,220
– I think she, I think she, fabulous up close.

728
00:26:45,220 –> 00:26:47,020
– I think I’ll be talking about Joan Collins.

729
00:26:47,020 –> 00:26:48,820
– No, as he else made Joan Collins here?

730
00:26:48,820 –> 00:26:50,700
– I didn’t meet her, she just stood next to each other.

731
00:26:50,700 –> 00:26:51,540
– All right, okay.

732
00:26:51,540 –> 00:26:52,700
– Yeah, yeah.

733
00:26:52,700 –> 00:26:56,180
– It was, it was, I can’t remember what the film was all.

734
00:26:56,180 –> 00:26:57,860
It was, it was drizzling, I remember that.

735
00:26:57,860 –> 00:26:58,860
– I was it, yeah.

736
00:26:58,860 –> 00:26:59,860
– Was it Leicester Square?

737
00:26:59,860 –> 00:27:01,900
– She had someone holding an umbrella for her.

738
00:27:01,900 –> 00:27:02,740
– Right.

739
00:27:02,740 –> 00:27:05,460
– I didn’t, no, you didn’t try and sneak in.

740
00:27:05,460 –> 00:27:06,620
– I’m too tall for that.

741
00:27:06,620 –> 00:27:07,460
– Oh, that’s too much for me.

742
00:27:07,460 –> 00:27:08,780
– I got the shoulder under.

743
00:27:08,780 –> 00:27:09,620
(laughing)

744
00:27:09,620 –> 00:27:11,100
– Could have crouched down.

745
00:27:11,100 –> 00:27:13,340
– Well, that’s, yeah, a lot of, I think that covers

746
00:27:13,340 –> 00:27:17,020
this sort of work side of getting sure to, you know,

747
00:27:17,020 –> 00:27:20,140
I’m sure, well, most things is, you know,

748
00:27:20,140 –> 00:27:21,860
good things are bad things, like doing your art

749
00:27:21,860 –> 00:27:24,020
and show this and get shared, it’s the way you’re in it.

750
00:27:24,020 –> 00:27:28,500
So, but like work, so, what about being at home?

751
00:27:28,500 –> 00:27:30,860
So the rest side of things, work, you know,

752
00:27:30,860 –> 00:27:33,380
you don’t have to, as I’ll say, almost every podcast,

753
00:27:33,380 –> 00:27:36,340
you don’t have to name names, you don’t have to point fingers,

754
00:27:36,340 –> 00:27:38,500
but is there anything about being at home

755
00:27:38,500 –> 00:27:41,660
you think actually that, that’s the thing in work?

756
00:27:41,660 –> 00:27:45,380
– Well, yeah, I mean, I’ve got a, a six year old daughter

757
00:27:45,380 –> 00:27:49,340
and an eight year old son, so with that obviously comes,

758
00:27:50,340 –> 00:27:55,340
do you, the usual gripes that any parent would have over?

759
00:27:55,340 –> 00:28:01,700
Just like, I mean, the inability to tidy up anything

760
00:28:01,700 –> 00:28:04,340
but then that’s not just a, that’s not,

761
00:28:04,340 –> 00:28:06,780
every single parent’s got that, and everyone’s got that,

762
00:28:06,780 –> 00:28:07,780
so that’s not a thing.

763
00:28:07,780 –> 00:28:10,380
I, my most,

764
00:28:10,380 –> 00:28:14,220
surety thing I think is probably to do it myself

765
00:28:14,220 –> 00:28:17,180
and my inability to sit and do nothing.

766
00:28:17,180 –> 00:28:18,020
– Right.

767
00:28:19,020 –> 00:28:20,780
– Because I’ll do a lot of things,

768
00:28:20,780 –> 00:28:23,620
and I think that’s just, that’s the way I’ve always been,

769
00:28:23,620 –> 00:28:26,620
nothing, the way my brain works, to do loads of things,

770
00:28:26,620 –> 00:28:29,460
so I think the fact that I, because I do so many things,

771
00:28:29,460 –> 00:28:31,220
I rarely finish one thing.

772
00:28:31,220 –> 00:28:32,060
– Okay.

773
00:28:32,060 –> 00:28:33,460
– So that’s what really annoys me.

774
00:28:33,460 –> 00:28:34,460
– Yeah.

775
00:28:34,460 –> 00:28:39,060
– Like, my lack of organization, this would be,

776
00:28:39,060 –> 00:28:40,540
like, if there’s a theme in my life,

777
00:28:40,540 –> 00:28:43,740
it’s lack of organization, so, okay, okay,

778
00:28:43,740 –> 00:28:45,740
so we renovating this old house at a moment,

779
00:28:45,740 –> 00:28:47,100
so I’ll dig up the driveway,

780
00:28:48,020 –> 00:28:49,980
and I’ll dig up not half the driveway,

781
00:28:49,980 –> 00:28:52,500
’cause then I go, oh no, I’ve got to finish a painting,

782
00:28:52,500 –> 00:28:54,460
so I go and do a little bit of work on a painting,

783
00:28:54,460 –> 00:28:57,220
like, oh, someone’s bought a painting, I’ve got a post that,

784
00:28:57,220 –> 00:28:59,620
so I’ll do, so I won’t ever finish the drive,

785
00:28:59,620 –> 00:29:01,460
all the painting, or post it, do you know what I mean?

786
00:29:01,460 –> 00:29:05,260
Or, I’ll tidy up a bit of a room,

787
00:29:05,260 –> 00:29:06,700
and I go, oh, and I walk somewhere else,

788
00:29:06,700 –> 00:29:07,820
and I go, oh, I’ll do the washing up,

789
00:29:07,820 –> 00:29:10,380
and yeah, so, the getting surety is mainly with me,

790
00:29:10,380 –> 00:29:12,740
if I’ve got a name, anyone, who is annoying.

791
00:29:12,740 –> 00:29:13,580
– Yeah.

792
00:29:13,580 –> 00:29:16,300
– Do you know, I’d like to sit here and say,

793
00:29:16,300 –> 00:29:19,180
I can relate to that, but, I mean, really,

794
00:29:19,180 –> 00:29:23,500
I’ve finished everything I start, I mean, I really do.

795
00:29:23,500 –> 00:29:26,980
That is it, I can relate to that, so much.

796
00:29:26,980 –> 00:29:28,420
– Yeah, I think everyone’s probably the same,

797
00:29:28,420 –> 00:29:30,140
but it’s the thing that, no.

798
00:29:30,140 –> 00:29:31,620
– Yeah, we’ll do it.

799
00:29:31,620 –> 00:29:32,620
– No, you’re not.

800
00:29:32,620 –> 00:29:33,460
– No.

801
00:29:33,460 –> 00:29:35,900
– Let’s have a little, yes or no.

802
00:29:35,900 –> 00:29:38,820
Are you a person who can sort of work all the way

803
00:29:38,820 –> 00:29:39,820
through something?

804
00:29:39,820 –> 00:29:40,660
– Yes.

805
00:29:40,660 –> 00:29:41,500
– Yes.

806
00:29:41,500 –> 00:29:43,020
– Yes, yes is.

807
00:29:43,020 –> 00:29:45,220
– Yes, yes, okay, so let’s just,

808
00:29:45,220 –> 00:29:50,220
it’s me then, so we’ve got the ones related to briar, okay.

809
00:29:50,220 –> 00:29:55,060
So we’re about half an hour, or maybe, well, maybe half a hour.

810
00:29:55,060 –> 00:29:57,540
Yeah, so I don’t know if it is a common thing, I think.

811
00:29:57,540 –> 00:29:58,860
– It’s annoying.

812
00:29:58,860 –> 00:30:00,500
– Relatively, yeah, it is weird.

813
00:30:00,500 –> 00:30:01,340
– Really annoying.

814
00:30:01,340 –> 00:30:06,340
– Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, I mean,

815
00:30:06,340 –> 00:30:10,220
even something, is that from little things

816
00:30:10,220 –> 00:30:11,340
through to the big things as well?

817
00:30:11,340 –> 00:30:12,340
– Through everything.

818
00:30:12,340 –> 00:30:14,220
– Leaving a driveway, halfway through,

819
00:30:14,220 –> 00:30:18,380
that does sound very, it’s very tiring, no?

820
00:30:18,380 –> 00:30:19,220
– Oh, yeah.

821
00:30:19,220 –> 00:30:21,180
– So yeah, I’ll do a lot of, I get a great tired,

822
00:30:21,180 –> 00:30:23,180
I’m gonna put a kettle on and I’m going to kitchen.

823
00:30:23,180 –> 00:30:24,700
Oh, I’ll do what I could do.

824
00:30:24,700 –> 00:30:25,540
– Yeah.

825
00:30:25,540 –> 00:30:26,380
– Go and do that.

826
00:30:26,380 –> 00:30:30,020
So I am the sort of, the thing that rounds us off, and,

827
00:30:30,020 –> 00:30:36,300
encompasses it all, is a while ago through work,

828
00:30:36,300 –> 00:30:39,100
I got someone spoke to me and said,

829
00:30:39,100 –> 00:30:41,180
how old are you when you got diagnosed?

830
00:30:41,180 –> 00:30:43,220
I’m not diagnosed with ADHD.

831
00:30:43,220 –> 00:30:45,660
– Right, so I said, I haven’t been.

832
00:30:45,660 –> 00:30:46,500
– Yeah.

833
00:30:46,500 –> 00:30:48,460
– And she went, well, 100% you are,

834
00:30:48,460 –> 00:30:51,060
you should go to your doctors, so I went to doctors,

835
00:30:51,060 –> 00:30:53,860
which again, that was quite a big step,

836
00:30:53,860 –> 00:30:55,580
my wife was quite a bit, so I’ve made the phone call

837
00:30:55,580 –> 00:30:58,900
and gone to doctors, I said, I need some paperwork

838
00:30:58,900 –> 00:31:02,380
to start to fill in for ADHD and he gave me that,

839
00:31:02,380 –> 00:31:04,900
and I brought it home and I put it on the fridge

840
00:31:04,900 –> 00:31:07,380
and then I never filled it in, because it was the,

841
00:31:07,380 –> 00:31:09,180
it was the last, it was only the last bit,

842
00:31:09,180 –> 00:31:10,780
and it was like a tick boxing.

843
00:31:10,780 –> 00:31:11,620
– Oh, I’ve done it, yeah.

844
00:31:11,620 –> 00:31:14,620
And I was like, oh, and I look, every day I’m lickin’ it

845
00:31:14,620 –> 00:31:16,100
and go, I should do that.

846
00:31:16,100 –> 00:31:16,940
– Yeah.

847
00:31:16,940 –> 00:31:18,740
– And then I wouldn’t do it, yeah.

848
00:31:18,740 –> 00:31:22,460
And so yeah, I never, no, it’s gone.

849
00:31:22,460 –> 00:31:24,340
– Yeah, that’s, I mean.

850
00:31:24,340 –> 00:31:26,180
– Do you think, do you want to talk to your doctor,

851
00:31:26,180 –> 00:31:27,180
do you think you’re dropping?

852
00:31:27,180 –> 00:31:29,300
– No, she wouldn’t, I don’t think she would,

853
00:31:29,300 –> 00:31:31,060
she should get me a second copy,

854
00:31:31,060 –> 00:31:34,260
but then again, like, you know, after speaking to the doctor,

855
00:31:34,260 –> 00:31:37,420
and he went, yeah, I can see that you are,

856
00:31:37,420 –> 00:31:41,060
or what, I don’t need to be diagnosed, really,

857
00:31:41,060 –> 00:31:43,380
because I’m not gonna do anything different,

858
00:31:43,380 –> 00:31:45,100
maybe feel the forming that might have.

859
00:31:45,100 –> 00:31:48,660
– Yeah, well, yeah, I think, I’m with you on that.

860
00:31:48,660 –> 00:31:51,820
I think it’s like, I suppose sometimes medication can help,

861
00:31:51,820 –> 00:31:54,060
and all that sort of thing.

862
00:31:54,060 –> 00:31:56,060
– Well, it might be finished the driveway.

863
00:31:56,060 –> 00:31:59,820
It might help you focus on the driveway, maybe.

864
00:31:59,820 –> 00:32:01,940
Maybe if you say that, you know,

865
00:32:01,940 –> 00:32:03,580
maybe if your wife listens to this,

866
00:32:03,580 –> 00:32:05,660
and he is that it might help you finish the driveway.

867
00:32:05,660 –> 00:32:06,500
– Yeah.

868
00:32:06,500 –> 00:32:08,780
– She’s a boy, it’s what spur you on.

869
00:32:08,780 –> 00:32:09,620
– Baby.

870
00:32:09,620 –> 00:32:10,460
(laughing)

871
00:32:10,460 –> 00:32:11,540
– Where is the thought, isn’t it?

872
00:32:11,540 –> 00:32:12,380
– I know, it’s the thought.

873
00:32:12,380 –> 00:32:14,180
Yeah, so it’s really, yeah, I mean,

874
00:32:14,180 –> 00:32:16,260
we’ve had all sorts come up on this,

875
00:32:16,260 –> 00:32:18,380
with regards to sort of home, get sure,

876
00:32:18,380 –> 00:32:20,900
to use dishwashers, you mentioned dishwasher earlier.

877
00:32:20,900 –> 00:32:23,260
That’s come up more than once.

878
00:32:23,260 –> 00:32:26,020
– The dreams have a kitchen big enough for a dishwasher now.

879
00:32:26,020 –> 00:32:27,180
– All right, okay.

880
00:32:27,180 –> 00:32:28,660
– Oh, so you are the dishwasher?

881
00:32:28,660 –> 00:32:29,820
– Yeah, yeah, yeah, very much so.

882
00:32:29,820 –> 00:32:30,820
I don’t mind that.

883
00:32:30,820 –> 00:32:31,660
– Yeah.

884
00:32:31,660 –> 00:32:32,580
– I don’t mind.

885
00:32:32,580 –> 00:32:37,500
I’m quite, I think I’m quite, like, good at cleaning.

886
00:32:37,500 –> 00:32:38,780
The house is quite clean,

887
00:32:38,780 –> 00:32:40,660
the bar where the children are being.

888
00:32:40,660 –> 00:32:43,780
But yeah, don’t mind that, sort of cleaning and tidy

889
00:32:43,780 –> 00:32:45,260
and scrubbing.

890
00:32:45,260 –> 00:32:46,420
– All right.

891
00:32:46,420 –> 00:32:48,020
– Just half a room at the time.

892
00:32:48,020 –> 00:32:50,860
Half a room, have a cup of tea, move onto a different room.

893
00:32:50,860 –> 00:32:52,220
– Yeah, yeah.

894
00:32:52,220 –> 00:32:55,780
– So, that’s funny that I was listening to this podcast

895
00:32:55,780 –> 00:32:58,260
with Alex Warn, whilst cleaning the bathroom.

896
00:32:58,260 –> 00:32:59,100
– Oh, yeah.

897
00:32:59,100 –> 00:32:59,940
– Oh, wow.

898
00:32:59,940 –> 00:33:00,940
– Here we go, it ties in.

899
00:33:00,940 –> 00:33:03,940
– It does, that’s sort of like a Lion King, man.

900
00:33:03,940 –> 00:33:04,940
It’s like the circle of Lion King.

901
00:33:04,940 –> 00:33:05,780
– Yeah, yeah.

902
00:33:05,780 –> 00:33:08,260
– And now you’ve got a whole stew up

903
00:33:08,260 –> 00:33:10,980
at the top of a rock somewhere.

904
00:33:10,980 –> 00:33:12,860
– That’s not bad, we started like that actually earlier.

905
00:33:12,860 –> 00:33:14,620
We didn’t do a dirty dance in my life.

906
00:33:14,620 –> 00:33:16,860
– No, that was a plan to leave that,

907
00:33:16,860 –> 00:33:18,700
you won’t know this if you’ll listen to this at home.

908
00:33:18,700 –> 00:33:20,340
But there’s a nice big balcony here.

909
00:33:20,340 –> 00:33:21,860
If you’ve ever been to the old auction in the house

910
00:33:21,860 –> 00:33:23,780
where you are now, the suggestion was

911
00:33:23,780 –> 00:33:25,500
that Matt threw himself off of that

912
00:33:25,500 –> 00:33:28,060
and I caught him like Patrick Swayze.

913
00:33:28,060 –> 00:33:29,340
Would you have been here for that?

914
00:33:29,340 –> 00:33:30,180
Would you have?

915
00:33:30,180 –> 00:33:31,020
– Yeah.

916
00:33:31,020 –> 00:33:33,140
– Yeah, so we could do that at the end.

917
00:33:33,140 –> 00:33:33,980
– Excellent.

918
00:33:33,980 –> 00:33:35,220
You did say you were quite an offering.

919
00:33:35,220 –> 00:33:36,660
– I’m offering, yeah, I’m pretty light and,

920
00:33:36,660 –> 00:33:37,660
very agile.

921
00:33:37,660 –> 00:33:39,340
(laughing)

922
00:33:39,340 –> 00:33:41,340
– Like I was, I can tweak look.

923
00:33:41,340 –> 00:33:42,180
– I can tweak look.

924
00:33:42,180 –> 00:33:43,020
– Yeah.

925
00:33:43,020 –> 00:33:45,420
– They’re very agile, they’re the most agile

926
00:33:45,420 –> 00:33:46,420
over all of the snaps.

927
00:33:46,420 –> 00:33:48,340
– Yeah, it’s a lot of money, love a tweak look.

928
00:33:48,340 –> 00:33:49,180
– Yeah.

929
00:33:49,180 –> 00:33:51,300
– So our hands, twigly it’s yes.

930
00:33:51,300 –> 00:33:52,140
– Oh.

931
00:33:52,140 –> 00:33:53,660
– Well over, well over.

932
00:33:53,660 –> 00:33:54,500
– Hard.

933
00:33:54,500 –> 00:33:57,380
– Oh no, not a twigly.

934
00:33:57,380 –> 00:33:58,380
– But you like that?

935
00:33:58,380 –> 00:34:00,940
– I do like my, my, but not on the stick form.

936
00:34:00,940 –> 00:34:03,580
– They look a bit too much like giraffe leaves as well.

937
00:34:03,580 –> 00:34:04,420
– Oh yeah.

938
00:34:04,420 –> 00:34:05,260
– Yeah.

939
00:34:05,260 –> 00:34:07,900
– I mean that is just me, obviously, but.

940
00:34:07,900 –> 00:34:09,540
(laughing)

941
00:34:09,540 –> 00:34:11,380
– I don’t like my, I like twig.

942
00:34:11,380 –> 00:34:12,380
– No, well yeah.

943
00:34:12,380 –> 00:34:14,660
Yeah, it’s fun, isn’t it?

944
00:34:14,660 –> 00:34:16,020
Show our hands on the Marmite.

945
00:34:16,020 –> 00:34:17,860
– Yeah, on a follow.

946
00:34:17,860 –> 00:34:20,980
– Right, so, show our hands and somebody who likes twigly

947
00:34:20,980 –> 00:34:21,980
but not Marmite.

948
00:34:21,980 –> 00:34:23,140
(laughing)

949
00:34:23,140 –> 00:34:23,980
– Yes, yes.

950
00:34:23,980 –> 00:34:24,820
– Yeah.

951
00:34:24,820 –> 00:34:25,980
– There you go.

952
00:34:25,980 –> 00:34:29,220
So that’s, that’s the double, that’s, yeah,

953
00:34:29,220 –> 00:34:31,820
see that seems, can’t, yeah.

954
00:34:31,820 –> 00:34:33,100
Like twigly, that’s not Marmite.

955
00:34:33,100 –> 00:34:34,500
Anyway, so there we go.

956
00:34:34,500 –> 00:34:35,340
– Yeah.

957
00:34:35,340 –> 00:34:38,100
– That’s the first podcast Marmite twigly poll.

958
00:34:38,100 –> 00:34:39,500
I think there’s everything done.

959
00:34:39,500 –> 00:34:40,500
We’ll post about that later.

960
00:34:40,500 –> 00:34:41,340
– Yeah, yeah.

961
00:34:41,340 –> 00:34:43,020
So, okay, let’s work.

962
00:34:43,020 –> 00:34:45,260
Home.

963
00:34:45,260 –> 00:34:46,100
– Yes.

964
00:34:46,100 –> 00:34:48,340
– That leaves us so, we’ve got,

965
00:34:48,340 –> 00:34:50,020
there’s two other hands that we do.

966
00:34:50,020 –> 00:34:51,020
One is,

967
00:34:51,020 –> 00:34:53,900
play, go in and out.

968
00:34:53,900 –> 00:34:54,740
– Yeah.

969
00:34:54,740 –> 00:34:56,380
– So are you, someone who goes out?

970
00:34:56,380 –> 00:34:57,580
– Are you a homebody?

971
00:34:57,580 –> 00:34:58,420
– I am,

972
00:34:58,420 –> 00:35:00,700
let’s think about this earlier.

973
00:35:00,700 –> 00:35:04,220
Growing up, I would,

974
00:35:04,220 –> 00:35:07,140
the idea of my friends being out.

975
00:35:07,140 –> 00:35:09,540
Is this, he’s coming, this is the best day of my life.

976
00:35:09,540 –> 00:35:10,700
– I love him.

977
00:35:10,700 –> 00:35:11,540
– Oh my god.

978
00:35:11,540 –> 00:35:14,060
– Yeah, so the idea of not,

979
00:35:14,060 –> 00:35:15,460
but the FOMO,

980
00:35:15,460 –> 00:35:16,620
– Yeah.

981
00:35:16,620 –> 00:35:18,860
– From sort of 15 onwards.

982
00:35:18,860 –> 00:35:19,700
– Okay.

983
00:35:19,700 –> 00:35:20,780
– I had to be out every night.

984
00:35:20,780 –> 00:35:22,020
– Right.

985
00:35:22,020 –> 00:35:25,980
– Doing whatever 15 year olds do in a small town.

986
00:35:25,980 –> 00:35:27,020
– Yeah.

987
00:35:27,020 –> 00:35:29,740
– Now, the idea of going out,

988
00:35:29,740 –> 00:35:30,580
but this is all right,

989
00:35:30,580 –> 00:35:32,780
’cause I’ve left the house in like daytime hours.

990
00:35:32,780 –> 00:35:33,620
– Right, okay.

991
00:35:33,620 –> 00:35:34,460
– Yeah, to go,

992
00:35:34,460 –> 00:35:36,140
the idea of going sort of pub now.

993
00:35:36,140 –> 00:35:36,980
– Yeah.

994
00:35:36,980 –> 00:35:37,820
– Oh, I just,

995
00:35:37,820 –> 00:35:39,540
I don’t know if he’s got to a certain age.

996
00:35:39,540 –> 00:35:40,860
I stopped drinking three years ago.

997
00:35:40,860 –> 00:35:41,700
– I was saying I don’t drink anymore.

998
00:35:41,700 –> 00:35:42,540
– I don’t drink anymore.

999
00:35:42,540 –> 00:35:45,140
So, yeah, three years next month,

1000
00:35:45,140 –> 00:35:46,220
I haven’t drunk before.

1001
00:35:46,220 –> 00:35:47,540
– And do that mean,

1002
00:35:47,540 –> 00:35:48,620
’cause I don’t drink either.

1003
00:35:48,620 –> 00:35:49,460
I don’t, I don’t,

1004
00:35:49,460 –> 00:35:50,300
probably about the same sort of time,

1005
00:35:50,300 –> 00:35:51,140
maybe two and a half years,

1006
00:35:51,140 –> 00:35:51,980
I’m not that,

1007
00:35:51,980 –> 00:35:52,820
two years.

1008
00:35:52,820 –> 00:35:54,420
But does that,

1009
00:35:54,420 –> 00:35:55,260
put you off going to,

1010
00:35:55,260 –> 00:35:56,100
I was aware of people,

1011
00:35:56,100 –> 00:35:57,260
do you drink or do you drink?

1012
00:35:57,260 –> 00:35:58,260
– No, I just,

1013
00:35:58,260 –> 00:36:00,260
I still go out with mates who drink.

1014
00:36:00,260 –> 00:36:02,780
You do realize that,

1015
00:36:03,620 –> 00:36:05,100
they still,

1016
00:36:05,100 –> 00:36:07,660
watch someone get drunk.

1017
00:36:07,660 –> 00:36:10,780
It’s quite tedious when you’re not drinking.

1018
00:36:10,780 –> 00:36:11,620
– Yeah.

1019
00:36:11,620 –> 00:36:13,020
– Brilliant when you are drinking.

1020
00:36:13,020 –> 00:36:13,860
– Yeah.

1021
00:36:13,860 –> 00:36:15,180
– Not I loved it.

1022
00:36:15,180 –> 00:36:16,020
I really, you know what I mean?

1023
00:36:16,020 –> 00:36:18,420
I’m not slain going out and getting drunk.

1024
00:36:18,420 –> 00:36:20,820
‘Cause that was like my main hobby for a long time.

1025
00:36:20,820 –> 00:36:21,820
– So, bloody loved it.

1026
00:36:21,820 –> 00:36:22,660
– Bloody loved it.

1027
00:36:22,660 –> 00:36:23,500
Yeah.

1028
00:36:23,500 –> 00:36:25,020
And I was quite good at,

1029
00:36:25,020 –> 00:36:25,860
like, you know,

1030
00:36:25,860 –> 00:36:26,700
I wasn’t bad.

1031
00:36:26,700 –> 00:36:27,540
I wasn’t like a drunk,

1032
00:36:27,540 –> 00:36:28,700
dreadful,

1033
00:36:28,700 –> 00:36:31,420
peacehead or whatever.

1034
00:36:31,420 –> 00:36:34,380
But anyway, I decided for whatever reason to stop drinking

1035
00:36:34,380 –> 00:36:35,220
because it,

1036
00:36:35,220 –> 00:36:37,900
drinking didn’t help me feel good anymore.

1037
00:36:37,900 –> 00:36:38,980
Like, you know, genuinely,

1038
00:36:38,980 –> 00:36:41,060
I felt rubbish on drinking.

1039
00:36:41,060 –> 00:36:42,580
So now I sort of go out.

1040
00:36:42,580 –> 00:36:44,420
I’d rather go out for dinner.

1041
00:36:44,420 –> 00:36:45,260
– Yeah.

1042
00:36:45,260 –> 00:36:47,740
– And that’s another thing, right?

1043
00:36:47,740 –> 00:36:49,380
Going out for dinner is so much better

1044
00:36:49,380 –> 00:36:50,460
when you’re not drinking.

1045
00:36:50,460 –> 00:36:51,300
– Yeah.

1046
00:36:51,300 –> 00:36:53,260
– I find, so I love going for a curry.

1047
00:36:53,260 –> 00:36:54,780
But going for a curry previously,

1048
00:36:54,780 –> 00:36:56,540
star of Bengal, by the way.

1049
00:36:56,540 –> 00:36:57,380
– Right.

1050
00:36:57,380 –> 00:36:58,380
– No, not the star of Bengal.

1051
00:36:58,380 –> 00:36:59,220
Where are we now?

1052
00:36:59,220 –> 00:37:00,220
Bengal Brasery.

1053
00:37:00,220 –> 00:37:01,060
– Yeah.

1054
00:37:01,060 –> 00:37:02,060
– It’s your one, isn’t it?

1055
00:37:02,060 –> 00:37:03,780
It’s the best one, isn’t it?

1056
00:37:03,780 –> 00:37:04,460
But, otherwise, go.

1057
00:37:04,460 –> 00:37:07,180
You go to the pub, drink a load of beer,

1058
00:37:07,180 –> 00:37:09,780
then go to the curry house, drink a load of beer.

1059
00:37:09,780 –> 00:37:11,420
The curry was secondary

1060
00:37:11,420 –> 00:37:13,700
to then leave in to go to the pub and drink more beer.

1061
00:37:13,700 –> 00:37:14,420
Now,

1062
00:37:14,420 –> 00:37:19,420
curry’s way nicer when you’re full of cobra

1063
00:37:19,420 –> 00:37:22,420
and about seven o’clock.

1064
00:37:22,420 –> 00:37:23,580
Yeah, it’s much, much better.

1065
00:37:23,580 –> 00:37:26,260
– That’s much better than 11 o’clock after a load of beer.

1066
00:37:26,260 –> 00:37:28,500
– Yeah, so I go out, we went out

1067
00:37:29,460 –> 00:37:31,140
on the odd occasion when our kids

1068
00:37:31,140 –> 00:37:34,100
had looked after by Alex’s parents, my wife’s parents.

1069
00:37:34,100 –> 00:37:35,460
We’d go out for dinner.

1070
00:37:35,460 –> 00:37:39,940
You’d finish your dinner at like nine o’clock

1071
00:37:39,940 –> 00:37:40,940
and just go home.

1072
00:37:40,940 –> 00:37:42,100
I love it.

1073
00:37:42,100 –> 00:37:44,980
Rather than pushing it to stay out as long as you can

1074
00:37:44,980 –> 00:37:46,100
because you don’t want to go home.

1075
00:37:46,100 –> 00:37:47,620
But then, you know, that’s supposed to get an older

1076
00:37:47,620 –> 00:37:50,380
and potentially wiser.

1077
00:37:50,380 –> 00:37:51,700
– Yeah, I think so.

1078
00:37:51,700 –> 00:37:53,060
I mean, like for me,

1079
00:37:53,060 –> 00:37:54,780
the trouble with going out

1080
00:37:54,780 –> 00:37:56,900
and this is no reflection on anybody here,

1081
00:37:56,900 –> 00:37:58,460
obviously I love everybody here.

1082
00:37:58,460 –> 00:38:01,940
But when I go out, there’s other people there.

1083
00:38:01,940 –> 00:38:02,780
– Yeah, yeah.

1084
00:38:02,780 –> 00:38:06,620
– I know, but everybody here is lovely.

1085
00:38:06,620 –> 00:38:08,060
And I like going to events.

1086
00:38:08,060 –> 00:38:09,940
I like going to slight set events

1087
00:38:09,940 –> 00:38:11,940
where there’s things to do.

1088
00:38:11,940 –> 00:38:13,740
But that’s just generally going out

1089
00:38:13,740 –> 00:38:16,460
where I’ve got to sort of interact

1090
00:38:16,460 –> 00:38:17,580
with other people who’ve perhaps

1091
00:38:17,580 –> 00:38:18,740
I’ve not chosen to.

1092
00:38:18,740 –> 00:38:19,740
– Mm-hmm.

1093
00:38:19,740 –> 00:38:20,580
– Then I think,

1094
00:38:20,580 –> 00:38:23,060
“Ah, actually, I don’t have to do this at home.”

1095
00:38:23,060 –> 00:38:23,900
– Yeah.

1096
00:38:23,900 –> 00:38:26,540
– And I can just go and get a pack of crisps

1097
00:38:26,540 –> 00:38:28,060
out of the cupboard and they’re free.

1098
00:38:28,060 –> 00:38:31,220
– Yeah, which is quite nice.

1099
00:38:31,220 –> 00:38:32,220
– Yeah, yeah.

1100
00:38:32,220 –> 00:38:33,700
– No, I really enjoy staying in.

1101
00:38:33,700 –> 00:38:35,500
And we’ve got quite a nice sort of…

1102
00:38:35,500 –> 00:38:39,980
– We get very, you know, we like…

1103
00:38:39,980 –> 00:38:40,820
Put the kids to bed.

1104
00:38:40,820 –> 00:38:41,900
We watch them eat dinner.

1105
00:38:41,900 –> 00:38:43,300
We watch them eat until they…

1106
00:38:43,300 –> 00:38:44,820
– What’s the tele-project of a choice in the moment?

1107
00:38:44,820 –> 00:38:46,500
– At the moment, we started on series two

1108
00:38:46,500 –> 00:38:47,980
of the responder last night.

1109
00:38:47,980 –> 00:38:49,900
If you see that, the Martin Freeman thing.

1110
00:38:49,900 –> 00:38:51,660
– Fairytense, is it?

1111
00:38:51,660 –> 00:38:56,100
We’re done two episodes, maybe the last episode.

1112
00:38:56,100 –> 00:38:59,980
‘Cause Sarah was watching it, yeah.

1113
00:38:59,980 –> 00:39:01,580
– Do you know how’s his accent doing?

1114
00:39:01,580 –> 00:39:03,260
– It’s not bad actually, I don’t mind him, yeah.

1115
00:39:03,260 –> 00:39:04,420
But I mean,

1116
00:39:04,420 –> 00:39:08,700
ideal is great pottery throw down.

1117
00:39:08,700 –> 00:39:09,660
– Right, okay.

1118
00:39:09,660 –> 00:39:10,700
– Anyone in today?

1119
00:39:10,700 –> 00:39:11,860
That is…

1120
00:39:11,860 –> 00:39:14,300
I bloody love it.

1121
00:39:14,300 –> 00:39:15,620
– Yeah, yeah.

1122
00:39:15,620 –> 00:39:16,860
– Have you ever tried…

1123
00:39:16,860 –> 00:39:17,860
I’ve got a potter’s wheel.

1124
00:39:17,860 –> 00:39:19,380
I bought my salad potter’s wheel, yeah.

1125
00:39:19,380 –> 00:39:24,700
– So, I feel like setting you a challenge now.

1126
00:39:24,700 –> 00:39:27,420
Could you go on every show that’s the great British something?

1127
00:39:27,420 –> 00:39:31,300
– Yeah, I mean, so in me, they do some wonderful stuff, don’t they?

1128
00:39:31,300 –> 00:39:32,180
– They do.

1129
00:39:32,180 –> 00:39:33,660
– Yeah, you could come in to the show.

1130
00:39:33,660 –> 00:39:35,740
– We can train you up, that’s it.

1131
00:39:35,740 –> 00:39:37,420
– Yeah, we can go off.

1132
00:39:37,420 –> 00:39:38,540
– You could bank your pots, right?

1133
00:39:38,540 –> 00:39:40,260
(laughing)

1134
00:39:40,260 –> 00:39:41,100
– Yeah, you can.

1135
00:39:41,100 –> 00:39:42,500
– No, I love it.

1136
00:39:42,500 –> 00:39:44,820
So, it’s pretty good.

1137
00:39:44,820 –> 00:39:45,660
– What’s his name?

1138
00:39:45,660 –> 00:39:46,500
Keith.

1139
00:39:46,500 –> 00:39:47,340
– Keith, he likes a cry.

1140
00:39:47,340 –> 00:39:48,500
– Oh, I love him.

1141
00:39:48,500 –> 00:39:49,340
I love him.

1142
00:39:49,340 –> 00:39:51,300
And I know someone who’s worked on that show.

1143
00:39:51,300 –> 00:39:52,460
– Right, okay.

1144
00:39:52,460 –> 00:39:54,100
Have you heard about him?

1145
00:39:54,100 –> 00:39:56,260
– No, well, no joking.

1146
00:39:56,260 –> 00:39:57,420
– Oh, I’m sorry.

1147
00:39:57,420 –> 00:39:58,420
– He’s been a…

1148
00:39:58,420 –> 00:39:59,420
– Oh, wait for the gossip.

1149
00:39:59,420 –> 00:40:01,260
– He’s been a young man.

1150
00:40:01,260 –> 00:40:02,460
– He’s been a bit absolutely lovely,

1151
00:40:02,460 –> 00:40:04,340
which is exactly what you want him to be.

1152
00:40:04,340 –> 00:40:05,180
– Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1153
00:40:05,180 –> 00:40:08,900
– And the people I have met him have all said, yeah, he’s exactly as he seems.

1154
00:40:08,900 –> 00:40:11,740
– Do you know what’s really lovely actually about that show?

1155
00:40:11,740 –> 00:40:13,660
And I think it’s quite rare.

1156
00:40:13,660 –> 00:40:16,020
And that’s one of the good things about Bake Off as well,

1157
00:40:16,020 –> 00:40:21,660
is it’s quite rare for a program to be unashamedly positive.

1158
00:40:21,660 –> 00:40:22,500
– Yeah.

1159
00:40:22,500 –> 00:40:23,500
– And that’s exactly what he is.

1160
00:40:23,500 –> 00:40:27,660
He’s so inquiring about how beautiful the pot is

1161
00:40:27,660 –> 00:40:30,940
and how hard someone’s worked, even that hasn’t worked out.

1162
00:40:30,940 –> 00:40:32,780
He’s got a genuine emotion for that.

1163
00:40:32,780 –> 00:40:33,780
And that’s really rare.

1164
00:40:33,780 –> 00:40:35,740
And I think it’s quite important for,

1165
00:40:35,740 –> 00:40:38,580
I think about it with Mikey Telekitt,

1166
00:40:38,580 –> 00:40:41,780
that they should see people crying when they’re,

1167
00:40:41,780 –> 00:40:42,620
you know, crying and crying.

1168
00:40:42,620 –> 00:40:44,300
They should see people appreciating something

1169
00:40:44,300 –> 00:40:45,580
and showing their emotion.

1170
00:40:45,580 –> 00:40:48,380
And I think those sorts of programs do that really well.

1171
00:40:48,380 –> 00:40:50,140
– Yeah, I love it.

1172
00:40:50,140 –> 00:40:53,380
And sort of going back on that a little bit,

1173
00:40:53,380 –> 00:40:55,820
the mention of the Bake Off.

1174
00:40:55,820 –> 00:40:59,820
After you said about, was it a positive experience?

1175
00:40:59,820 –> 00:41:03,860
After being on it, for a while,

1176
00:41:03,860 –> 00:41:05,820
I’d get recognised in loads of places.

1177
00:41:05,820 –> 00:41:07,740
You’d be stood in Morrison’s, people would be like,

1178
00:41:07,740 –> 00:41:10,300
talking about you as if you’re on the Telekitt.

1179
00:41:10,300 –> 00:41:11,620
And that’s a bloke off the Bake Off.

1180
00:41:11,620 –> 00:41:12,620
Yeah, it’s told, isn’t it?

1181
00:41:12,620 –> 00:41:14,620
And you sort of go, you’re right.

1182
00:41:14,620 –> 00:41:15,740
I mean, I can hear you.

1183
00:41:15,740 –> 00:41:17,500
Or they’re just taking photos of you.

1184
00:41:17,500 –> 00:41:19,660
Because I think when it finished,

1185
00:41:19,660 –> 00:41:22,260
my series, it was a series I was on.

1186
00:41:22,260 –> 00:41:25,140
It was like 14 and a half million people watched the final.

1187
00:41:25,140 –> 00:41:28,860
Which was the biggest thing, it was massive, massive.

1188
00:41:28,860 –> 00:41:30,860
But going back to the positive thing,

1189
00:41:30,860 –> 00:41:34,500
everyone I met in the street and out at the pub

1190
00:41:34,500 –> 00:41:36,020
and all that sort of, everyone was nice.

1191
00:41:36,020 –> 00:41:38,300
Because it was a positive, it’s a positive program.

1192
00:41:38,300 –> 00:41:39,980
It’s not like you’re on,

1193
00:41:39,980 –> 00:41:41,940
although big brother will, it’s a baddie,

1194
00:41:41,940 –> 00:41:44,540
or the apprentice, or whatever those sort of programs are,

1195
00:41:44,540 –> 00:41:46,780
when they set people up to be the villain.

1196
00:41:46,780 –> 00:41:48,980
Oh, that person’s got that streak.

1197
00:41:48,980 –> 00:41:50,220
And they’re picked for those things.

1198
00:41:50,220 –> 00:41:51,540
I mean, and that’s what makes the program.

1199
00:41:51,540 –> 00:41:53,780
Like the apprentice, someone with a vicious streak,

1200
00:41:53,780 –> 00:41:55,420
and I’ll stab you in the back because they want to get on

1201
00:41:55,420 –> 00:41:56,220
in business.

1202
00:41:56,220 –> 00:42:00,100
In Bake Off, everyone’s trying to help each other.

1203
00:42:00,100 –> 00:42:02,940
And everyone’s trying to pull each other along.

1204
00:42:02,940 –> 00:42:06,100
And similarly, in pottery throw down,

1205
00:42:06,100 –> 00:42:08,820
I’ll quickly run your stuff over there for you.

1206
00:42:08,820 –> 00:42:10,140
And it is really nice.

1207
00:42:10,140 –> 00:42:13,580
And it’s positive teller he’s good.

1208
00:42:13,580 –> 00:42:16,420
So how many pots have you thrown?

1209
00:42:16,420 –> 00:42:18,820
I bought it for my son.

1210
00:42:18,820 –> 00:42:20,060
Right, OK.

1211
00:42:20,060 –> 00:42:20,940
Because he’s got into it.

1212
00:42:20,940 –> 00:42:23,780
And I’ve got a studio to do art in.

1213
00:42:23,780 –> 00:42:25,580
And I thought, I don’t know, it’d be a really good Christmas

1214
00:42:25,580 –> 00:42:25,980
present.

1215
00:42:25,980 –> 00:42:29,780
And actually, it’s really messy.

1216
00:42:29,780 –> 00:42:31,500
Right.

1217
00:42:31,500 –> 00:42:33,660
And the clay I bought is not great.

1218
00:42:33,660 –> 00:42:34,780
And he’s all right.

1219
00:42:34,780 –> 00:42:35,460
He’s made a few bits.

1220
00:42:35,460 –> 00:42:36,660
I haven’t done anything.

1221
00:42:36,660 –> 00:42:37,660
Right.

1222
00:42:37,660 –> 00:42:38,660
Because I can’t.

1223
00:42:38,660 –> 00:42:39,900
I’ll get a bit sort of too messy.

1224
00:42:39,900 –> 00:42:40,900
But I think I should–

1225
00:42:40,900 –> 00:42:42,220
I thought you were about to say, there’s

1226
00:42:42,220 –> 00:42:44,820
like the exercise bike of the craft world, where

1227
00:42:44,820 –> 00:42:47,420
it’s just actually got closed, throwing over the top of it,

1228
00:42:47,420 –> 00:42:48,260
waiting to be used.

1229
00:42:48,260 –> 00:42:49,380
It does get used.

1230
00:42:49,380 –> 00:42:50,380
It does get used.

1231
00:42:50,380 –> 00:42:51,220
It’s not bad, yeah.

1232
00:42:51,220 –> 00:42:54,060
I bust really like the fact that he’s got it.

1233
00:42:54,060 –> 00:42:55,260
Yeah, he’s into something.

1234
00:42:55,260 –> 00:42:56,980
And he’s doing stuff with his hands.

1235
00:42:56,980 –> 00:42:57,460
I like it.

1236
00:42:57,460 –> 00:42:58,660
Yeah, yeah.

1237
00:42:58,660 –> 00:43:00,820
Well, and again, that’s one of those things, isn’t it?

1238
00:43:00,820 –> 00:43:04,500
Where you– it’s very easy these days with phones,

1239
00:43:04,500 –> 00:43:07,420
computer games and all of that to sort of get locked into that

1240
00:43:07,420 –> 00:43:08,380
one, to anything.

1241
00:43:08,380 –> 00:43:09,100
Yeah, yeah, that’s the–

1242
00:43:09,100 –> 00:43:10,380
I’m all for it.

1243
00:43:10,380 –> 00:43:13,300
So did we actually get a get-shirty there for the going out?

1244
00:43:13,300 –> 00:43:18,100
Going out, yeah, just people, organizing it.

1245
00:43:18,100 –> 00:43:23,660
And then I tell you what, this will sum it up.

1246
00:43:23,660 –> 00:43:26,620
So I think, at a my group of friends,

1247
00:43:26,620 –> 00:43:28,460
which is still the same sort of group of friends

1248
00:43:28,460 –> 00:43:33,860
I had when I was at school, I’m probably the best person

1249
00:43:33,860 –> 00:43:36,900
at trying to get people to organize, which was a prize anyone

1250
00:43:36,900 –> 00:43:40,020
who knows my organizational–

1251
00:43:40,020 –> 00:43:40,980
trying to organize this.

1252
00:43:40,980 –> 00:43:42,060
I’ve dreadful reply.

1253
00:43:42,060 –> 00:43:43,100
So I’ll put out a message–

1254
00:43:43,100 –> 00:43:44,580
Oh, I wouldn’t say dreadful.

1255
00:43:44,580 –> 00:43:45,100
Wow.

1256
00:43:45,100 –> 00:43:47,100
Actually, I think–

1257
00:43:47,100 –> 00:43:47,940
I’ll put out a message–

1258
00:43:47,940 –> 00:43:50,020
I think you were stronger than that, now you’re right.

1259
00:43:50,020 –> 00:43:53,220
To everyone going, who wants to go out for whatever,

1260
00:43:53,220 –> 00:43:54,340
a carry on this date?

1261
00:43:54,340 –> 00:43:57,660
And people would say, yes, they’ll reply.

1262
00:43:57,660 –> 00:44:01,100
But once I’ve sent that message out, my brain’s gone,

1263
00:44:01,100 –> 00:44:02,940
that I’ve done all I need to do.

1264
00:44:02,940 –> 00:44:04,220
So people are going, yeah, what time?

1265
00:44:04,220 –> 00:44:07,620
And I’m like, oh my god.

1266
00:44:07,620 –> 00:44:09,180
So that’s what gets me shirty.

1267
00:44:09,180 –> 00:44:11,420
Half of it that replies to that message.

1268
00:44:11,420 –> 00:44:12,380
It’s the same at work.

1269
00:44:12,380 –> 00:44:14,380
So I’m going to message them, go out and go,

1270
00:44:14,380 –> 00:44:16,140
who, whatever.

1271
00:44:16,140 –> 00:44:20,100
And if I do my one reply or my message going out,

1272
00:44:20,100 –> 00:44:21,180
people always never replied.

1273
00:44:21,180 –> 00:44:23,020
It’s never responded to me.

1274
00:44:23,020 –> 00:44:24,900
It’s because my brain’s gone, I’ve done it.

1275
00:44:24,900 –> 00:44:27,140
I’ve done the bit I needed to do.

1276
00:44:27,140 –> 00:44:30,340
So with me, as well, if the message is slightly too long

1277
00:44:30,340 –> 00:44:32,420
that someone sends me–

1278
00:44:32,420 –> 00:44:33,420
I see it.

1279
00:44:33,420 –> 00:44:34,940
I’ll shut off.

1280
00:44:34,940 –> 00:44:36,180
Yeah.

1281
00:44:36,180 –> 00:44:37,180
It’s just done.

1282
00:44:37,180 –> 00:44:41,780
Yeah, it might as well not really have been written.

1283
00:44:41,780 –> 00:44:44,380
Because I’ll read that later, and then it’s gone.

1284
00:44:44,380 –> 00:44:44,900
Yeah.

1285
00:44:44,900 –> 00:44:46,460
And then I’m 100% the same.

1286
00:44:46,460 –> 00:44:47,460
So yeah, I think–

1287
00:44:47,460 –> 00:44:50,660
The thought of doing it as well, that I’ve thought about reply.

1288
00:44:50,660 –> 00:44:51,860
That means I haven’t replied.

1289
00:44:51,860 –> 00:44:53,740
I’ll do it to mates, and I go, oh, do you know what?

1290
00:44:53,740 –> 00:44:55,660
I haven’t spoken to that person for two months.

1291
00:44:55,660 –> 00:44:58,860
I should really reach out and be a good friend.

1292
00:44:58,860 –> 00:44:59,740
And I go, how are you doing?

1293
00:44:59,740 –> 00:45:00,340
You’re all right.

1294
00:45:00,340 –> 00:45:01,340
And I go, yeah, what are you up to?

1295
00:45:01,340 –> 00:45:02,780
Oh, my god.

1296
00:45:02,780 –> 00:45:04,220
How are we ending into this?

1297
00:45:04,220 –> 00:45:05,860
Chat.

1298
00:45:05,860 –> 00:45:07,820
I just wanted you to know what I was thinking about you.

1299
00:45:07,820 –> 00:45:09,580
I mean, I might just do a lot of template.

1300
00:45:09,580 –> 00:45:10,300
Just let you know.

1301
00:45:10,300 –> 00:45:11,420
I’m thinking about you.

1302
00:45:11,420 –> 00:45:12,380
I hope you’re doing all right.

1303
00:45:12,380 –> 00:45:13,220
Don’t respond.

1304
00:45:13,220 –> 00:45:14,020
Yeah.

1305
00:45:14,020 –> 00:45:14,860
Yeah.

1306
00:45:14,860 –> 00:45:16,300
Don’t want to conversation.

1307
00:45:16,300 –> 00:45:17,140
Yeah.

1308
00:45:17,140 –> 00:45:21,020
Which is, you know, pleased that we’ve driven you to come

1309
00:45:21,020 –> 00:45:22,900
on a podcast.

1310
00:45:22,900 –> 00:45:26,260
At least if it was on sort of blog that we had to back and forth

1311
00:45:26,260 –> 00:45:28,700
that just wouldn’t be awful, it wouldn’t happen.

1312
00:45:28,700 –> 00:45:30,660
Well, thankfully, we’re not making you do that.

1313
00:45:30,660 –> 00:45:31,780
Oh, god.

1314
00:45:31,780 –> 00:45:34,860
Yeah, so look, work, rest, play going out.

1315
00:45:34,860 –> 00:45:40,300
We’ve completed the Mars bar, try Fector.

1316
00:45:40,300 –> 00:45:41,020
That’s what I’ll tell you.

1317
00:45:41,020 –> 00:45:42,860
I mean, I don’t know why we call that.

1318
00:45:42,860 –> 00:45:47,540
So now we have the Off the Cuff section.

1319
00:45:47,540 –> 00:45:50,860
Now, what?

1320
00:45:50,860 –> 00:45:51,940
Oh, I’ll think it said, hang on.

1321
00:45:51,940 –> 00:45:53,260
So the Off the Cuff section.

1322
00:45:53,260 –> 00:45:57,100
So I don’t know if you’ve listened to the podcast before,

1323
00:45:57,100 –> 00:46:02,900
or been on the podcast before, we do the Off the Cuff section,

1324
00:46:02,900 –> 00:46:05,340
which was good because it was a pump, because it’s

1325
00:46:05,340 –> 00:46:07,340
get shut off the cuff.

1326
00:46:07,340 –> 00:46:09,460
So we decided to do–

1327
00:46:09,460 –> 00:46:11,940
so what it is is you’re going to pick something.

1328
00:46:11,940 –> 00:46:12,940
Yeah.

1329
00:46:12,940 –> 00:46:16,620
That you then have to think of a get shut, you thought.

1330
00:46:16,620 –> 00:46:16,820
OK.

1331
00:46:16,820 –> 00:46:17,660
Spontaneously.

1332
00:46:17,660 –> 00:46:19,260
Off the cuff, ha, ha.

1333
00:46:19,260 –> 00:46:21,940
But then we didn’t really think about how to deliver that.

1334
00:46:21,940 –> 00:46:24,060
And obviously, this every podcast, and now I have

1335
00:46:24,060 –> 00:46:26,380
to explain every podcast, we didn’t think

1336
00:46:26,380 –> 00:46:27,500
how we’re going to deliver that.

1337
00:46:27,500 –> 00:46:30,380
So what we did is we got a bowl of hat, like it.

1338
00:46:30,380 –> 00:46:32,380
We took a shirt related at all.

1339
00:46:32,380 –> 00:46:36,980
So now it’s become off the cuff from the hat, which stops it working.

1340
00:46:36,980 –> 00:46:39,620
Now, when Adam Buckston was on, he suggested

1341
00:46:39,620 –> 00:46:42,700
we did, we pinned these little bits of paper

1342
00:46:42,700 –> 00:46:44,300
to the cuff of a shirt.

1343
00:46:44,300 –> 00:46:44,780
Nice.

1344
00:46:44,780 –> 00:46:48,300
Now that makes sense.

1345
00:46:48,300 –> 00:46:51,420
But what’s the point of it making sense when you can then talk

1346
00:46:51,420 –> 00:46:54,060
about it being off the cuff out of the hat?

1347
00:46:54,060 –> 00:46:56,660
So we now–

1348
00:46:56,660 –> 00:46:58,260
I mean, that’s a long explanation.

1349
00:46:58,260 –> 00:47:02,260
We now flatly refuse to do anything but that.

1350
00:47:02,260 –> 00:47:05,380
But that’s a long-winded explanation that wasn’t required.

1351
00:47:05,380 –> 00:47:09,260
If anybody’s listened to this podcast before,

1352
00:47:09,260 –> 00:47:11,340
but for those of us in the room–

1353
00:47:11,340 –> 00:47:11,980
You could have done it.

1354
00:47:11,980 –> 00:47:14,060
You could call it off the top of your head,

1355
00:47:14,060 –> 00:47:16,100
because that’s all like the hat and then–

1356
00:47:16,100 –> 00:47:16,700
Yeah.

1357
00:47:16,700 –> 00:47:18,100
But I get a lot of the cuff bit, yeah.

1358
00:47:18,100 –> 00:47:19,420
Well, the cuff worked.

1359
00:47:19,420 –> 00:47:21,980
I mean, the Alex Hall came out with loads of shirts.

1360
00:47:21,980 –> 00:47:24,260
Did it be this way funny than me?

1361
00:47:24,260 –> 00:47:26,500
No, look, you’re doing all right.

1362
00:47:26,500 –> 00:47:28,820
But yeah, he was like, oh, you could–

1363
00:47:28,820 –> 00:47:30,620
something rather collared and you could–

1364
00:47:30,620 –> 00:47:32,180
I thought I’d think he could cut a body out.

1365
00:47:32,180 –> 00:47:34,860
And you could be buttoned up and all this sort of stuff.

1366
00:47:34,860 –> 00:47:36,620
We was going, oh, they’re all great, but we’re sticking

1367
00:47:36,620 –> 00:47:37,620
with the hat.

1368
00:47:37,620 –> 00:47:38,420
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of them.

1369
00:47:38,420 –> 00:47:40,340
We’re not moving away from the hat.

1370
00:47:40,340 –> 00:47:41,380
So here we go.

1371
00:47:41,380 –> 00:47:42,980
I’m on it, ready?

1372
00:47:42,980 –> 00:47:43,980
Do I shut my eyes?

1373
00:47:43,980 –> 00:47:44,820
Oh, don’t know.

1374
00:47:44,820 –> 00:47:45,620
You do what you mean, lie.

1375
00:47:45,620 –> 00:47:47,140
It’s just free form.

1376
00:47:47,140 –> 00:47:47,660
Got it.

1377
00:47:47,660 –> 00:47:48,180
I’ve got one.

1378
00:47:48,180 –> 00:47:49,020
Here we go.

1379
00:47:49,020 –> 00:47:49,540
A lot of things.

1380
00:47:49,540 –> 00:47:51,020
OK, very good.

1381
00:47:51,020 –> 00:47:52,020
OK.

1382
00:47:52,020 –> 00:47:53,020
Do I read it out?

1383
00:47:53,020 –> 00:47:54,220
Read it out.

1384
00:47:54,220 –> 00:47:55,020
History.

1385
00:47:55,020 –> 00:47:55,780
History.

1386
00:47:55,780 –> 00:47:56,820
All right.

1387
00:47:56,820 –> 00:47:59,540
All right, so, yeah, we won’t put it back in.

1388
00:47:59,540 –> 00:48:00,940
OK, I’ll repeat them.

1389
00:48:00,940 –> 00:48:04,980
So what is your off-the-car from the hat?

1390
00:48:04,980 –> 00:48:05,980
About a history.

1391
00:48:05,980 –> 00:48:08,340
Oh, I mean, there’s a lot to choose from.

1392
00:48:08,340 –> 00:48:09,740
Yeah, but you look at it.

1393
00:48:09,740 –> 00:48:10,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1394
00:48:10,540 –> 00:48:11,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1395
00:48:11,540 –> 00:48:12,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1396
00:48:12,540 –> 00:48:13,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1397
00:48:13,540 –> 00:48:14,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1398
00:48:14,540 –> 00:48:15,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1399
00:48:15,540 –> 00:48:16,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1400
00:48:16,540 –> 00:48:17,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1401
00:48:17,540 –> 00:48:18,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1402
00:48:18,540 –> 00:48:19,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1403
00:48:19,540 –> 00:48:19,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1404
00:48:19,540 –> 00:48:20,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1405
00:48:20,540 –> 00:48:21,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1406
00:48:21,540 –> 00:48:22,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1407
00:48:22,540 –> 00:48:23,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1408
00:48:23,540 –> 00:48:24,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1409
00:48:24,540 –> 00:48:25,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1410
00:48:25,540 –> 00:48:26,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1411
00:48:26,540 –> 00:48:27,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1412
00:48:27,540 –> 00:48:28,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1413
00:48:28,540 –> 00:48:29,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1414
00:48:29,540 –> 00:48:30,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1415
00:48:30,540 –> 00:48:31,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1416
00:48:31,540 –> 00:48:32,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1417
00:48:32,540 –> 00:48:33,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1418
00:48:33,540 –> 00:48:34,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1419
00:48:34,540 –> 00:48:35,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1420
00:48:35,540 –> 00:48:36,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1421
00:48:36,540 –> 00:48:37,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1422
00:48:37,540 –> 00:48:38,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1423
00:48:38,540 –> 00:48:39,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1424
00:48:39,540 –> 00:48:40,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1425
00:48:40,540 –> 00:48:41,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1426
00:48:41,540 –> 00:48:42,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1427
00:48:42,540 –> 00:48:43,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1428
00:48:43,540 –> 00:48:44,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1429
00:48:44,540 –> 00:48:45,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1430
00:48:45,540 –> 00:48:46,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1431
00:48:46,540 –> 00:48:47,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1432
00:48:47,540 –> 00:48:48,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1433
00:48:48,540 –> 00:48:49,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1434
00:48:49,540 –> 00:48:50,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1435
00:48:50,540 –> 00:48:51,540
Yeah, but you look at it.

1436
00:48:52,540 –> 00:48:53,540
Oh, yeah.

1437
00:48:53,540 –> 00:48:54,540
Like the…

1438
00:48:54,540 –> 00:48:57,540
You know, you’ve got the A3A3 that goes past Stonehenge.

1439
00:48:57,540 –> 00:48:58,540
Yes.

1440
00:48:58,540 –> 00:48:59,540
That’s annoying, isn’t it?

1441
00:48:59,540 –> 00:49:00,540
That is annoying.

1442
00:49:00,540 –> 00:49:01,540
That is annoying.

1443
00:49:01,540 –> 00:49:02,540
That is annoying.

1444
00:49:02,540 –> 00:49:03,540
And they are there.

1445
00:49:03,540 –> 00:49:04,540
That is annoying.

1446
00:49:04,540 –> 00:49:05,540
Purely for history, aren’t they?

1447
00:49:05,540 –> 00:49:06,540
Yeah.

1448
00:49:06,540 –> 00:49:08,540
They’re looking at Stonehenge, which I’m into.

1449
00:49:08,540 –> 00:49:09,540
I do.

1450
00:49:09,540 –> 00:49:11,540
I like Stonehenge as…

1451
00:49:11,540 –> 00:49:12,540
History.

1452
00:49:12,540 –> 00:49:13,540
A historical monument.

1453
00:49:13,540 –> 00:49:14,540
Yeah.

1454
00:49:14,540 –> 00:49:16,540
Could have been a bigger road next to it.

1455
00:49:16,540 –> 00:49:17,540
That…

1456
00:49:17,540 –> 00:49:19,540
I don’t know why Stonehenge came to my mind.

1457
00:49:19,540 –> 00:49:20,540
Yeah.

1458
00:49:20,540 –> 00:49:21,540
As history goes, is it?

1459
00:49:21,540 –> 00:49:22,540
Yeah, and I imagine…

1460
00:49:22,540 –> 00:49:23,540
I’ll tell you what then.

1461
00:49:23,540 –> 00:49:25,540
So it’s what the druids wouldn’t want it.

1462
00:49:25,540 –> 00:49:26,540
Yeah.

1463
00:49:26,540 –> 00:49:32,540
Leading on from that, I think, like, if you’re going to go to historical places, there are like…

1464
00:49:32,540 –> 00:49:34,540
Like Stonehenge, or the Pyramids.

1465
00:49:34,540 –> 00:49:35,540
I imagine…

1466
00:49:35,540 –> 00:49:36,540
I haven’t been to the Pyramids.

1467
00:49:36,540 –> 00:49:37,540
No, me.

1468
00:49:37,540 –> 00:49:38,540
Anybody know why Pyramids?

1469
00:49:38,540 –> 00:49:39,540
My wife has.

1470
00:49:39,540 –> 00:49:40,540
Oh, rude.

1471
00:49:40,540 –> 00:49:45,540
And I think it’s really pre-pre-pre-pre-me when she could go to places that were nice.

1472
00:49:45,540 –> 00:49:47,540
Or, can she not have because of you?

1473
00:49:47,540 –> 00:49:48,540
Because of me.

1474
00:49:48,540 –> 00:49:49,540
Yeah.

1475
00:49:49,540 –> 00:49:50,540
No, you’re there.

1476
00:49:50,540 –> 00:49:51,540
No, you’re there.

1477
00:49:51,540 –> 00:49:55,540
I think, yeah, that sort of thing, I’m going to like the Pyramids and it just being…

1478
00:49:55,540 –> 00:50:00,540
What you see in a photo isn’t what is actually there, is it?

1479
00:50:00,540 –> 00:50:01,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1480
00:50:01,540 –> 00:50:02,540
I mean, it’s what is actually there.

1481
00:50:02,540 –> 00:50:03,540
It’s not like made up.

1482
00:50:03,540 –> 00:50:06,540
But the actual state of it is the same, I think, with Taj Mahal.

1483
00:50:06,540 –> 00:50:07,540
With Taj Mahal?

1484
00:50:07,540 –> 00:50:08,540
That’s notoriously.

1485
00:50:08,540 –> 00:50:09,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1486
00:50:09,540 –> 00:50:11,540
Because that one view is the only sort of…

1487
00:50:11,540 –> 00:50:12,540
Yeah.

1488
00:50:12,540 –> 00:50:14,540
…looking at anybody big in Taj Mahal.

1489
00:50:14,540 –> 00:50:16,540
Maybe you can confirm the view is only nice sort of…

1490
00:50:16,540 –> 00:50:17,540
But it’s fabulous.

1491
00:50:17,540 –> 00:50:18,540
What?

1492
00:50:18,540 –> 00:50:19,540
But going the other way.

1493
00:50:19,540 –> 00:50:21,540
I went there and it’s several times.

1494
00:50:21,540 –> 00:50:22,540
Oh, is it?

1495
00:50:22,540 –> 00:50:26,540
I always thought like the other way, it was a bit sort of all not…

1496
00:50:26,540 –> 00:50:27,540
So…

1497
00:50:27,540 –> 00:50:29,540
So either or not do you get a diand or either, how many…

1498
00:50:29,540 –> 00:50:30,540
Oh, yeah.

1499
00:50:30,540 –> 00:50:31,540
Oh, yeah.

1500
00:50:31,540 –> 00:50:33,540
Oh, they’re at the same time, yeah?

1501
00:50:33,540 –> 00:50:35,540
Very nice, too.

1502
00:50:35,540 –> 00:50:36,540
Oh, okay, so not like that.

1503
00:50:36,540 –> 00:50:37,540
That is all beautiful, is it?

1504
00:50:37,540 –> 00:50:38,540
I’ll do it.

1505
00:50:38,540 –> 00:50:39,540
All right, okay.

1506
00:50:39,540 –> 00:50:41,540
I’ll just…

1507
00:50:41,540 –> 00:50:45,540
I was imagining you with that dianna fringe for that reason.

1508
00:50:45,540 –> 00:50:50,540
Yeah, but so historical places that don’t look like they do on their postcards.

1509
00:50:50,540 –> 00:50:51,540
Is that the gits?

1510
00:50:51,540 –> 00:50:52,540
Yeah, probably.

1511
00:50:52,540 –> 00:50:53,540
That would annoy me.

1512
00:50:53,540 –> 00:50:55,540
I mean, I haven’t been to any.

1513
00:50:55,540 –> 00:50:57,540
So that’s not…

1514
00:50:57,540 –> 00:50:58,540
What would you say?

1515
00:50:58,540 –> 00:51:00,540
Well, obviously Stonehenge, you’ve been past that.

1516
00:51:00,540 –> 00:51:06,540
Did you like me go to Glastonbury to the festival and sort of wake up…

1517
00:51:06,540 –> 00:51:10,540
Or were woken up just as you were going past it, so you saw it briefly.

1518
00:51:10,540 –> 00:51:12,540
I’ve been at the rear view window.

1519
00:51:12,540 –> 00:51:18,540
A couple of times recently, to Cornwall, an accidentally driven that way,

1520
00:51:18,540 –> 00:51:19,540
that is…

1521
00:51:19,540 –> 00:51:20,540
Took us 11 hours.

1522
00:51:20,540 –> 00:51:21,540
Is that what I was going to say?

1523
00:51:21,540 –> 00:51:22,540
Is that accidentally…

1524
00:51:22,540 –> 00:51:23,540
Is that on the way…

1525
00:51:23,540 –> 00:51:24,540
On the way not accidentally?

1526
00:51:24,540 –> 00:51:26,540
Yeah, no, so that was…

1527
00:51:26,540 –> 00:51:29,540
I mean, that’s not very historically based, like for me to get in the amputate,

1528
00:51:29,540 –> 00:51:31,540
took me 11 hours to get back from modesty.

1529
00:51:31,540 –> 00:51:33,540
That is quite a gittiness.

1530
00:51:33,540 –> 00:51:37,540
But I drove past Stonehenge as part of that journey.

1531
00:51:37,540 –> 00:51:39,540
And you can’t even really pull over.

1532
00:51:39,540 –> 00:51:41,540
I can’t do anything in this rubbish, isn’t it?

1533
00:51:41,540 –> 00:51:43,540
Like it, it looks good.

1534
00:51:43,540 –> 00:51:45,540
It’s not impressive from the road.

1535
00:51:45,540 –> 00:51:47,540
Right, I mean…

1536
00:51:47,540 –> 00:51:50,540
As someone who is currently digging up a drive way with big lumps of rock,

1537
00:51:50,540 –> 00:51:52,540
I imagine it was hard to build.

1538
00:51:52,540 –> 00:51:53,540
But…

1539
00:51:53,540 –> 00:51:54,540
You know…

1540
00:51:54,540 –> 00:51:55,540
But yeah.

1541
00:51:55,540 –> 00:51:58,540
You could do a spinal tap…

1542
00:51:58,540 –> 00:52:01,540
I’m not a version from the stones from your drive.

1543
00:52:01,540 –> 00:52:02,540
Could, yeah.

1544
00:52:02,540 –> 00:52:03,540
You could do many.

1545
00:52:03,540 –> 00:52:04,540
Yeah, you could.

1546
00:52:04,540 –> 00:52:06,540
And I would be there for that.

1547
00:52:06,540 –> 00:52:09,540
I would actually help you do that.

1548
00:52:09,540 –> 00:52:10,540
I’m not afraid…

1549
00:52:10,540 –> 00:52:11,540
If you want to do that.

1550
00:52:11,540 –> 00:52:13,540
So, yeah, check back with it.

1551
00:52:13,540 –> 00:52:16,540
When we deliver, we could do it when we deliver your shirt.

1552
00:52:16,540 –> 00:52:17,540
Actually, you can…

1553
00:52:17,540 –> 00:52:18,540
Build some…

1554
00:52:18,540 –> 00:52:19,540
Yeah.

1555
00:52:19,540 –> 00:52:21,540
Build a little Stonehenge in your shirt.

1556
00:52:21,540 –> 00:52:23,540
I don’t know why I’m going with that.

1557
00:52:23,540 –> 00:52:25,540
That’s one of those bits to cut out.

1558
00:52:25,540 –> 00:52:27,540
Right there, thanks.

1559
00:52:27,540 –> 00:52:30,540
I’m trying to think more historically things that were annoying, yeah.

1560
00:52:30,540 –> 00:52:34,540
Anybody shout out any suggestions on historical things

1561
00:52:34,540 –> 00:52:37,540
that might be quite annoying in a way that…

1562
00:52:37,540 –> 00:52:39,540
You all quite quiet, anything?

1563
00:52:39,540 –> 00:52:40,540
I’ll tell you what, does…

1564
00:52:40,540 –> 00:52:41,540
Oh, it’s easy.

1565
00:52:41,540 –> 00:52:42,540
I thought of you out.

1566
00:52:42,540 –> 00:52:44,540
And it’s gone a little bit left field, actually.

1567
00:52:44,540 –> 00:52:45,540
Okay.

1568
00:52:45,540 –> 00:52:48,540
Are you aware of the programme Faker Fortune

1569
00:52:48,540 –> 00:52:50,540
with Fiona Bruce?

1570
00:52:50,540 –> 00:52:52,540
I’ve heard of it, not watched it.

1571
00:52:52,540 –> 00:52:54,540
Oh, it’s a few nods.

1572
00:52:54,540 –> 00:52:55,540
Oh, recommend it.

1573
00:52:55,540 –> 00:52:57,540
You can go, yes.

1574
00:52:57,540 –> 00:52:58,540
Because nods don’t…

1575
00:52:58,540 –> 00:52:59,540
We can’t hear nods.

1576
00:52:59,540 –> 00:53:00,540
There we go.

1577
00:53:00,540 –> 00:53:02,540
It is a good programme, isn’t it?

1578
00:53:02,540 –> 00:53:03,540
I’d say it’s up…

1579
00:53:03,540 –> 00:53:06,540
I mean, I’m getting weirdly up getting into this.

1580
00:53:06,540 –> 00:53:08,540
I’ve ever watched that in the bath.

1581
00:53:08,540 –> 00:53:09,540
Right?

1582
00:53:09,540 –> 00:53:10,540
I’ve never seen that.

1583
00:53:10,540 –> 00:53:13,540
I’ve put the eye pad up, watch a Faker Fortune.

1584
00:53:13,540 –> 00:53:15,540
And what they do is they…

1585
00:53:15,540 –> 00:53:19,540
Someone will go, “I found this Rembrandt in Manan’s Loft.”

1586
00:53:19,540 –> 00:53:20,540
Yeah.

1587
00:53:20,540 –> 00:53:21,540
“Is it a real Rembrandt?”

1588
00:53:21,540 –> 00:53:23,540
And then they take it back and they do the historical checks

1589
00:53:23,540 –> 00:53:25,540
and they go, “Oh, we’ve taken fragments of this paint

1590
00:53:25,540 –> 00:53:27,540
and we’ve done the paper samples.”

1591
00:53:27,540 –> 00:53:31,540
And then there’s a big reveal at the end and the Rembrandt…

1592
00:53:31,540 –> 00:53:34,540
I don’t know, whoever the people who looked after Rembrandt’s stuff

1593
00:53:34,540 –> 00:53:36,540
go, “Yes or no?”

1594
00:53:36,540 –> 00:53:37,540
Yeah.

1595
00:53:37,540 –> 00:53:39,540
That…

1596
00:53:39,540 –> 00:53:41,540
It gives me the ump.

1597
00:53:41,540 –> 00:53:43,540
[Laughter]

1598
00:53:43,540 –> 00:53:45,540
When…

1599
00:53:45,540 –> 00:53:47,540
Well, sometimes it’s yes, sometimes it’s no,

1600
00:53:47,540 –> 00:53:51,540
but when they say no and they’re refusing to open their books again

1601
00:53:51,540 –> 00:53:53,540
because they’re stuffy old.

1602
00:53:53,540 –> 00:53:54,540
Right.

1603
00:53:54,540 –> 00:53:55,540
The story is…

1604
00:53:55,540 –> 00:53:57,540
And they go, “It clearly is.”

1605
00:53:57,540 –> 00:53:58,540
But they refuse…

1606
00:53:58,540 –> 00:53:59,540
I don’t know, they do that a lot and they go,

1607
00:53:59,540 –> 00:54:02,540
“No, we are not prepared to accept it at this time.”

1608
00:54:02,540 –> 00:54:03,540
Oh, OK.

1609
00:54:03,540 –> 00:54:07,540
Because we said no before and we cannot say, “Yes, now.”

1610
00:54:07,540 –> 00:54:08,540
Yeah.

1611
00:54:08,540 –> 00:54:12,540
So it’s like, “It’s been enacted, I don’t want to look like an idiot.”

1612
00:54:12,540 –> 00:54:13,540
Yeah.

1613
00:54:13,540 –> 00:54:16,540
I know that is a very niche historical thing.

1614
00:54:16,540 –> 00:54:17,540
A Fiona Bruce is in it.

1615
00:54:17,540 –> 00:54:19,540
Who is wonderful, by the way?

1616
00:54:19,540 –> 00:54:20,540
[Laughter]

1617
00:54:20,540 –> 00:54:21,540
So, yeah…

1618
00:54:21,540 –> 00:54:22,540
A stop Fiona Bruce.

1619
00:54:22,540 –> 00:54:23,540
Going, “No, I won’t take that.”

1620
00:54:23,540 –> 00:54:28,540
No, no, she’s championing for the underdog, yeah, yeah.

1621
00:54:28,540 –> 00:54:29,540
Yeah, OK.

1622
00:54:29,540 –> 00:54:31,540
But, do you know that…

1623
00:54:31,540 –> 00:54:32,540
As a…

1624
00:54:32,540 –> 00:54:33,540
Historical, get sure to.

1625
00:54:33,540 –> 00:54:34,540
That’s not bad.

1626
00:54:34,540 –> 00:54:36,540
I don’t think I could have taken that.

1627
00:54:36,540 –> 00:54:37,540
No.

1628
00:54:37,540 –> 00:54:38,540
I don’t think I could have taken that.

1629
00:54:38,540 –> 00:54:39,540
How are we doing for time?

1630
00:54:39,540 –> 00:54:41,540
Oh, sorry, she’s got a question.

1631
00:54:41,540 –> 00:54:42,540
What’s up?

1632
00:54:42,540 –> 00:54:44,540
Well, sorry, they say it is a rembrand,

1633
00:54:44,540 –> 00:54:47,540
but because we said it isn’t, we’re going to say it’s not.

1634
00:54:47,540 –> 00:54:48,540
Yeah, they sort of just…

1635
00:54:48,540 –> 00:54:49,540
They sort of go…

1636
00:54:49,540 –> 00:54:51,540
They often say, “At this time, we’re not going to accept.”

1637
00:54:51,540 –> 00:54:53,540
Sometimes they go, “We are…”

1638
00:54:53,540 –> 00:54:54,540
And then it all rembrands, obviously,

1639
00:54:54,540 –> 00:54:57,540
and it’s all sorts of, like, you know, different ones.

1640
00:54:57,540 –> 00:54:59,540
They go right back and they go, you know,

1641
00:54:59,540 –> 00:55:01,540
it’s all about the provenance.

1642
00:55:01,540 –> 00:55:04,540
They go, “You can’t prove the provenance of this particular piece.”

1643
00:55:04,540 –> 00:55:07,540
And then they poo-poo it, and they go, “It’s probably worth.”

1644
00:55:07,540 –> 00:55:08,540
And then one…

1645
00:55:08,540 –> 00:55:09,540
(LAUGHS)

1646
00:55:09,540 –> 00:55:10,540
They’ve got…

1647
00:55:10,540 –> 00:55:11,540
They’ve got…

1648
00:55:11,540 –> 00:55:12,540
They did big a battle.

1649
00:55:12,540 –> 00:55:13,540
They’ve destroyed it.

1650
00:55:13,540 –> 00:55:14,540
And one, they destroyed it.

1651
00:55:14,540 –> 00:55:15,540
They were…

1652
00:55:15,540 –> 00:55:17,540
They believed this is a fake, and we have destroyed it.

1653
00:55:17,540 –> 00:55:21,540
This woman spent £65,000, £1,000 on auction, whatever.

1654
00:55:21,540 –> 00:55:22,540
We don’t believe it.

1655
00:55:22,540 –> 00:55:24,540
We’ve destroyed it for you.

1656
00:55:24,540 –> 00:55:25,540
(GASP)

1657
00:55:25,540 –> 00:55:26,540
God’s…

1658
00:55:26,540 –> 00:55:27,540
Wow.

1659
00:55:27,540 –> 00:55:28,540
Everyone’s…

1660
00:55:28,540 –> 00:55:30,540
I mean, that’s above earth.

1661
00:55:30,540 –> 00:55:32,540
Yeah, I’m taking that.

1662
00:55:32,540 –> 00:55:33,540
Well…

1663
00:55:33,540 –> 00:55:34,540
But they’ve…

1664
00:55:34,540 –> 00:55:35,540
Yeah, that’s a Tetchy Plus.

1665
00:55:35,540 –> 00:55:37,540
But they’re filmed with their reaction of Jonas there,

1666
00:55:37,540 –> 00:55:40,540
and the God Charles, who obviously does it,

1667
00:55:40,540 –> 00:55:43,540
and they go, “How do you feel now that you know that this piece of paper

1668
00:55:43,540 –> 00:55:45,540
is worth £450,000?”

1669
00:55:45,540 –> 00:55:47,540
And they go, “Oh, nothing, it won’t change me.”

1670
00:55:47,540 –> 00:55:49,540
And I’ll keep it.

1671
00:55:49,540 –> 00:55:52,540
Or they go, “By the way, they’ve destroyed your Picasso.”

1672
00:55:52,540 –> 00:55:53,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1673
00:55:53,540 –> 00:55:54,540
That’s not what you want, is it?

1674
00:55:54,540 –> 00:55:55,540
It’s good, it’s good telling.

1675
00:55:55,540 –> 00:55:57,540
Yeah, it is good telling.

1676
00:55:57,540 –> 00:56:01,540
So, I don’t know why, it reminded me of a particular grand design,

1677
00:56:01,540 –> 00:56:03,540
where, right at the end,

1678
00:56:03,540 –> 00:56:07,540
somebody built a house in their backyard and for somebody else,

1679
00:56:07,540 –> 00:56:09,540
and it hadn’t gone quite right,

1680
00:56:09,540 –> 00:56:12,540
and Kevin, just out and out, just called him out on it,

1681
00:56:12,540 –> 00:56:14,540
not even in a pleasant way.

1682
00:56:14,540 –> 00:56:16,540
Excuse me, French, he basically went,

1683
00:56:16,540 –> 00:56:18,540
“You know, really, you fucked up, haven’t you?”

1684
00:56:18,540 –> 00:56:21,540
Yeah, they were like, “Procally, in tears.”

1685
00:56:21,540 –> 00:56:22,540
Oh, really?

1686
00:56:22,540 –> 00:56:23,540
Well, that was a bit…

1687
00:56:23,540 –> 00:56:25,540
He didn’t sugarcoat that at all.

1688
00:56:25,540 –> 00:56:26,540
Yeah.

1689
00:56:26,540 –> 00:56:29,540
I’d be there for Fiona Bruce being a bit like…

1690
00:56:29,540 –> 00:56:30,540
Yeah, watch it.

1691
00:56:30,540 –> 00:56:31,540
All right.

1692
00:56:31,540 –> 00:56:32,540
That’s the best six series.

1693
00:56:32,540 –> 00:56:33,540
It’s good.

1694
00:56:33,540 –> 00:56:34,540
All right, all good.

1695
00:56:34,540 –> 00:56:36,540
I’ll go, well, look, so, how we doing?

1696
00:56:36,540 –> 00:56:37,540
Yeah, we’re good, okay.

1697
00:56:37,540 –> 00:56:43,540
So, that is the end of this section of the Get Shirted Podcast.

1698
00:56:43,540 –> 00:56:46,540
Now, because it’s Get Shirted Podcast Live, hooray!

1699
00:56:46,540 –> 00:56:47,540
I hear you all say it.

1700
00:56:47,540 –> 00:56:49,540
We all hear it.

1701
00:56:49,540 –> 00:56:50,540
Yes!

1702
00:56:50,540 –> 00:56:52,540
So, actually, let’s have a little round of applause for that.

1703
00:56:52,540 –> 00:56:53,540
Thank you.

1704
00:56:53,540 –> 00:56:54,540
For that, well done.

1705
00:56:54,540 –> 00:56:59,540
But, what we’ve decided to do is do a little Q&A.

1706
00:56:59,540 –> 00:57:01,540
Because we don’t ever have an audience, usually,

1707
00:57:01,540 –> 00:57:03,540
stew jumps up at the end.

1708
00:57:03,540 –> 00:57:07,540
Well, actually, like you just did, can you clarify this point?

1709
00:57:07,540 –> 00:57:08,540
The…

1710
00:57:08,540 –> 00:57:10,540
Is that your coming to your judges?

1711
00:57:10,540 –> 00:57:11,540
Oh, yeah, you are.

1712
00:57:11,540 –> 00:57:12,540
I thought you were a magistrate.

1713
00:57:12,540 –> 00:57:13,540
No, I’m a jack.

1714
00:57:13,540 –> 00:57:14,540
No, no, no.

1715
00:57:14,540 –> 00:57:17,540
But what I mean is, well, like, for instance…

1716
00:57:17,540 –> 00:57:19,540
Feel.

1717
00:57:19,540 –> 00:57:21,540
Yeah, we had to clarify that.

1718
00:57:21,540 –> 00:57:22,540
Listen to that one.

1719
00:57:22,540 –> 00:57:24,540
I won’t go into that here.

1720
00:57:24,540 –> 00:57:27,540
But, yeah, we never have an audience to do a Q&A.

1721
00:57:27,540 –> 00:57:29,540
So, has anybody got a question?

1722
00:57:29,540 –> 00:57:31,540
Because Sam…

1723
00:57:31,540 –> 00:57:32,540
He’s looking.

1724
00:57:32,540 –> 00:57:33,540
She’s coming out.

1725
00:57:33,540 –> 00:57:34,540
Oh, look.

1726
00:57:34,540 –> 00:57:36,540
You’re going to get the mic.

1727
00:57:36,540 –> 00:57:37,540
Oh!

1728
00:57:37,540 –> 00:57:38,540
Q&A!

1729
00:57:38,540 –> 00:57:39,540
Please stay…

1730
00:57:39,540 –> 00:57:40,540
Stay in the name.

1731
00:57:40,540 –> 00:57:42,540
Any profession?

1732
00:57:42,540 –> 00:57:43,540
What’s your name and where you’re from?

1733
00:57:43,540 –> 00:57:44,540
Yeah, what’s your name?

1734
00:57:44,540 –> 00:57:45,540
Hello!

1735
00:57:45,540 –> 00:57:49,540
It’s Gary James and ex-guest on the programme.

1736
00:57:49,540 –> 00:57:50,540
Hello, everyone.

1737
00:57:50,540 –> 00:57:52,540
Thank you.

1738
00:57:52,540 –> 00:57:53,540
Thank you.

1739
00:57:53,540 –> 00:57:54,540
Thank you.

1740
00:57:54,540 –> 00:57:56,540
Matt, you mentioned earlier on that, of course,

1741
00:57:56,540 –> 00:57:58,540
Bake Office said, “We’ll feel good, right?”

1742
00:57:58,540 –> 00:57:59,540
That means no.

1743
00:57:59,540 –> 00:58:02,540
I mean, you said it was the positive end of television.

1744
00:58:02,540 –> 00:58:04,540
And everyone, he feels good in it.

1745
00:58:04,540 –> 00:58:09,540
Now, if you’ve got the opportunity to go on to celebrity traders,

1746
00:58:09,540 –> 00:58:13,540
would you want to be a trader or a faithful?

1747
00:58:13,540 –> 00:58:14,540
And why?

1748
00:58:14,540 –> 00:58:15,540
Okay, I…

1749
00:58:15,540 –> 00:58:16,540
Great question.

1750
00:58:16,540 –> 00:58:17,540
No, I…

1751
00:58:17,540 –> 00:58:20,540
I haven’t seen that.

1752
00:58:20,540 –> 00:58:22,540
Although…

1753
00:58:22,540 –> 00:58:24,540
I am…

1754
00:58:24,540 –> 00:58:26,540
I do know…

1755
00:58:26,540 –> 00:58:28,540
My wife watched it.

1756
00:58:28,540 –> 00:58:32,540
So, in our evenings where we split and she goes off to watch

1757
00:58:32,540 –> 00:58:34,540
whatever she wants to watch, that was…

1758
00:58:34,540 –> 00:58:35,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1759
00:58:35,540 –> 00:58:37,540
So, that was what she was watching.

1760
00:58:37,540 –> 00:58:38,540
So, I’ve…

1761
00:58:38,540 –> 00:58:40,540
It’s Claudia, isn’t it?

1762
00:58:40,540 –> 00:58:41,540
Claudia.

1763
00:58:41,540 –> 00:58:42,540
Yeah, who does it?

1764
00:58:42,540 –> 00:58:44,540
So, I…

1765
00:58:44,540 –> 00:58:45,540
I don’t think…

1766
00:58:45,540 –> 00:58:48,540
I don’t think I’d be very good at pretending to be something…

1767
00:58:48,540 –> 00:58:49,540
I’m not…

1768
00:58:49,540 –> 00:58:50,540
We…

1769
00:58:50,540 –> 00:58:51,540
You’re in pressure to call me.

1770
00:58:51,540 –> 00:58:52,540
Yeah, it was Claudia.

1771
00:58:52,540 –> 00:58:53,540
Yeah, yeah.

1772
00:58:53,540 –> 00:58:55,540
I thought you were going, “I can’t see you.”

1773
00:58:55,540 –> 00:58:57,540
We’re doing like a…

1774
00:58:57,540 –> 00:59:00,540
There was a game we used to play with my wife’s family.

1775
00:59:00,540 –> 00:59:01,540
They got a big family.

1776
00:59:01,540 –> 00:59:02,540
They play lots of games.

1777
00:59:02,540 –> 00:59:04,540
And there was one where you had to pretend…

1778
00:59:04,540 –> 00:59:06,540
You know, when it’s like you’re mafia or something,

1779
00:59:06,540 –> 00:59:07,540
you kill someone.

1780
00:59:07,540 –> 00:59:09,540
Everyone shuts their eyes and you’ve got to pretend…

1781
00:59:09,540 –> 00:59:10,540
You’ve got to bag your way out of it.

1782
00:59:10,540 –> 00:59:13,540
I get very stressed in that situation.

1783
00:59:13,540 –> 00:59:16,540
So, if there’s a thing we’ve got to pretend to be a baddie…

1784
00:59:16,540 –> 00:59:17,540
Or a gooddie.

1785
00:59:17,540 –> 00:59:19,540
I’d go for a gooddie because I’d get…

1786
00:59:19,540 –> 00:59:21,540
I wouldn’t like it.

1787
00:59:21,540 –> 00:59:23,540
I wouldn’t like it.

1788
00:59:23,540 –> 00:59:25,540
Is that the right…

1789
00:59:25,540 –> 00:59:27,540
Yeah, is it goodies and baddies?

1790
00:59:27,540 –> 00:59:30,540
I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen either, but…

1791
00:59:30,540 –> 00:59:32,540
I think it just is…

1792
00:59:32,540 –> 00:59:33,540
What is it?

1793
00:59:33,540 –> 00:59:34,540
One baddie?

1794
00:59:34,540 –> 00:59:35,540
One traitor.

1795
00:59:35,540 –> 00:59:36,540
Or lots of traitor.

1796
00:59:36,540 –> 00:59:37,540
Usually three.

1797
00:59:37,540 –> 00:59:38,540
I’ll see.

1798
00:59:38,540 –> 00:59:40,540
Oh.

1799
00:59:40,540 –> 00:59:43,540
I’ll be a non-trater.

1800
00:59:43,540 –> 00:59:44,540
Yeah.

1801
00:59:44,540 –> 00:59:45,540
A lot of traitor.

1802
00:59:45,540 –> 00:59:46,540
You can’t just be behind you, don’t you?

1803
00:59:46,540 –> 00:59:47,540
Put your hand…

1804
00:59:47,540 –> 00:59:48,540
I do not.

1805
00:59:48,540 –> 00:59:49,540
You don’t get to choose.

1806
00:59:49,540 –> 00:59:50,540
Oh, shit.

1807
00:59:50,540 –> 00:59:51,540
I’ll be an allocate.

1808
00:59:51,540 –> 00:59:52,540
You have to write, okay.

1809
00:59:52,540 –> 00:59:53,540
And then you’ve got…

1810
00:59:53,540 –> 00:59:55,540
You’ve got to act accordingly.

1811
00:59:55,540 –> 00:59:57,540
Oh, a little tap on the shoulders.

1812
00:59:57,540 –> 00:59:58,540
Uh-oh.

1813
00:59:58,540 –> 00:59:59,540
Is that what she does?

1814
00:59:59,540 –> 01:00:00,540
She’s got a cape, isn’t she?

1815
01:00:00,540 –> 01:00:01,540
I’ve seen that.

1816
01:00:01,540 –> 01:00:02,540
Jeff.

1817
01:00:02,540 –> 01:00:05,540
I love Jeff Cape, she’s a kid.

1818
01:00:05,540 –> 01:00:07,540
If she walked in with Jeff Cape, I don’t know where I’m going.

1819
01:00:07,540 –> 01:00:08,540
No, I don’t know.

1820
01:00:08,540 –> 01:00:09,540
I’m there for it.

1821
01:00:09,540 –> 01:00:11,540
Any other questions?

1822
01:00:11,540 –> 01:00:12,540
Yes.

1823
01:00:12,540 –> 01:00:13,540
Yes.

1824
01:00:13,540 –> 01:00:14,540
Oh.

1825
01:00:14,540 –> 01:00:16,540
I…

1826
01:00:16,540 –> 01:00:17,540
Stayed in the ha…

1827
01:00:17,540 –> 01:00:19,540
I’m Mavel, your daughter.

1828
01:00:19,540 –> 01:00:20,540
You’re my daughter?

1829
01:00:20,540 –> 01:00:21,540
No.

1830
01:00:21,540 –> 01:00:23,540
Oh, my God.

1831
01:00:23,540 –> 01:00:25,540
I’m sorry you didn’t know that.

1832
01:00:25,540 –> 01:00:26,540
What are you talking about?

1833
01:00:26,540 –> 01:00:27,540
What are you talking about?

1834
01:00:27,540 –> 01:00:28,540
What are you talking about?

1835
01:00:28,540 –> 01:00:29,540
I’m sorry.

1836
01:00:29,540 –> 01:00:33,540
I have rumors that on Bake Off,

1837
01:00:33,540 –> 01:00:36,540
Mal and Sue, if someone was proper crime,

1838
01:00:36,540 –> 01:00:38,540
they’d stand next to them and like, shout swear,

1839
01:00:38,540 –> 01:00:40,540
and un-airable language.

1840
01:00:40,540 –> 01:00:41,540
Have you ever seen that?

1841
01:00:41,540 –> 01:00:43,540
Did you see that happen ever?

1842
01:00:43,540 –> 01:00:44,540
I know a fitster.

1843
01:00:44,540 –> 01:00:45,540
I would believe that.

1844
01:00:45,540 –> 01:00:47,540
Yeah, I think they do do that.

1845
01:00:47,540 –> 01:00:49,540
It didn’t happen on my series,

1846
01:00:49,540 –> 01:00:52,540
but they’re quite protective, I think, of you…

1847
01:00:52,540 –> 01:00:55,540
of stuff not being filmed…

1848
01:00:55,540 –> 01:00:57,540
that you don’t want to go out.

1849
01:00:57,540 –> 01:00:58,540
Yeah.

1850
01:00:58,540 –> 01:01:00,540
So, yeah, I think that is the case.

1851
01:01:00,540 –> 01:01:02,540
Yeah, they would do that.

1852
01:01:02,540 –> 01:01:04,540
Yeah.

1853
01:01:04,540 –> 01:01:05,540
So they are quite protective.

1854
01:01:05,540 –> 01:01:07,540
They’re really lovely, like genuinely, really lovely.

1855
01:01:07,540 –> 01:01:08,540
Yeah.

1856
01:01:08,540 –> 01:01:11,540
And is there anybody from Bake Off that you are still in contact with?

1857
01:01:11,540 –> 01:01:12,540
Yeah, quite a…

1858
01:01:12,540 –> 01:01:13,540
You’re so Nadia.

1859
01:01:13,540 –> 01:01:14,540
Right.

1860
01:01:14,540 –> 01:01:15,540
I mean, what she done since?

1861
01:01:15,540 –> 01:01:16,540
Oh, I know.

1862
01:01:16,540 –> 01:01:17,540
Yeah.

1863
01:01:17,540 –> 01:01:19,540
I mean, she won the break, but then disappeared.

1864
01:01:19,540 –> 01:01:20,540
Disappeared into the…

1865
01:01:20,540 –> 01:01:21,540
Yeah.

1866
01:01:21,540 –> 01:01:24,540
So, I was Bake Paul’s always taking out the back of his mouth,

1867
01:01:24,540 –> 01:01:25,540
the back of his…

1868
01:01:25,540 –> 01:01:26,540
Yeah.

1869
01:01:26,540 –> 01:01:27,540
…cleaning on.

1870
01:01:27,540 –> 01:01:28,540
I imagine that.

1871
01:01:28,540 –> 01:01:29,540
So, no, no.

1872
01:01:29,540 –> 01:01:31,540
We all had a beer sort of a barbecue, isn’t it?

1873
01:01:31,540 –> 01:01:32,540
Wouldn’t be any fun.

1874
01:01:32,540 –> 01:01:34,540
But, no, Nadia, I speak to Flora.

1875
01:01:34,540 –> 01:01:35,540
Yeah, quite a few of them.

1876
01:01:35,540 –> 01:01:39,540
There was a time where we all sort of got together a bit after the show,

1877
01:01:39,540 –> 01:01:43,540
and a lot of other series, though, but we were like…

1878
01:01:43,540 –> 01:01:44,540
Yeah.

1879
01:01:44,540 –> 01:01:46,540
…Scotland, Wail, like it was really spread out.

1880
01:01:46,540 –> 01:01:48,540
But I still see other…

1881
01:01:48,540 –> 01:01:50,540
Yeah, because you did the marathon, didn’t you?

1882
01:01:50,540 –> 01:01:51,540
Yeah, so I’ve done that.

1883
01:01:51,540 –> 01:01:52,540
Yeah.

1884
01:01:52,540 –> 01:01:55,540
So, for Great Ormond Street, organise it, because straight after Great Ormond Street,

1885
01:01:55,540 –> 01:01:57,540
like you get contacted by a lot of charities,

1886
01:01:57,540 –> 01:01:59,540
it’s like, “Poke Bake Off”, and…

1887
01:01:59,540 –> 01:02:02,540
Great Ormond Street’s one that they’ve sort of worked with,

1888
01:02:02,540 –> 01:02:04,540
so you get steered towards that.

1889
01:02:04,540 –> 01:02:07,540
And, yeah, I’ve done…

1890
01:02:07,540 –> 01:02:10,540
They do the “Bakers” dozen, which is 13 “Bakers” from different series.

1891
01:02:10,540 –> 01:02:11,540
Right.

1892
01:02:11,540 –> 01:02:12,540
And those guys, I speak to a lot, and…

1893
01:02:12,540 –> 01:02:13,540
Yeah, a bunch of them.

1894
01:02:13,540 –> 01:02:14,540
So, not…

1895
01:02:14,540 –> 01:02:17,540
Like the whole sort of Bake Off family is a whole, I guess, as opposed to…

1896
01:02:17,540 –> 01:02:18,540
…this people from my year.

1897
01:02:18,540 –> 01:02:19,540
Well, because it…

1898
01:02:19,540 –> 01:02:22,540
Although, you know, it feels like a lot of people…

1899
01:02:22,540 –> 01:02:26,540
…it’s really a very small amount of people when you consider it.

1900
01:02:26,540 –> 01:02:27,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1901
01:02:27,540 –> 01:02:29,540
They’ve all gone through that shared experience, so…

1902
01:02:29,540 –> 01:02:30,540
Yeah, it’s quite a special thing.

1903
01:02:30,540 –> 01:02:31,540
And it is…

1904
01:02:31,540 –> 01:02:32,540
Yeah, the people who…

1905
01:02:32,540 –> 01:02:35,540
…who’s Richard, who is in a year before me, had the pencil behind his ear.

1906
01:02:35,540 –> 01:02:36,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1907
01:02:36,540 –> 01:02:37,540
I speak to…

1908
01:02:37,540 –> 01:02:39,540
…so Richard Burn, who’s wife, and…

1909
01:02:39,540 –> 01:02:41,540
…is that me, Phoebe and Becky, you hear that?

1910
01:02:41,540 –> 01:02:42,540
– Absolutely. – That was it.

1911
01:02:42,540 –> 01:02:44,540
– Yeah. – Yeah.

1912
01:02:44,540 –> 01:02:46,540
So, yeah, I speak to those guys quite a lot, and…

1913
01:02:46,540 –> 01:02:47,540
– Right. – …and…

1914
01:02:47,540 –> 01:02:49,540
…we do the marathon as well, as those sort of…

1915
01:02:49,540 –> 01:02:50,540
…fundraising stuff we do together.

1916
01:02:50,540 –> 01:02:51,540
– Perfect. – Yeah.

1917
01:02:51,540 –> 01:02:53,540
Ian from my year, I speak, you know.

1918
01:02:53,540 –> 01:02:54,540
I say I speak to him a lot.

1919
01:02:54,540 –> 01:02:55,540
I think I speak to anyone, not really.

1920
01:02:55,540 –> 01:02:57,540
– No. – Well, you send them on message.

1921
01:02:57,540 –> 01:02:59,540
– I send them a message. – And they say, “Don’t report.”

1922
01:02:59,540 –> 01:03:01,540
– That’s a teeter report. – Yeah, how dare they.

1923
01:03:01,540 –> 01:03:03,540
All right, I think we have another question as well.

1924
01:03:03,540 –> 01:03:07,540
Hello, I’m Anne.

1925
01:03:07,540 –> 01:03:09,540
Another bake off question.

1926
01:03:09,540 –> 01:03:13,540
So, I’m quite tempted to apply for bake off either.

1927
01:03:13,540 –> 01:03:17,540
– Do I? – But I have a question that…

1928
01:03:17,540 –> 01:03:20,540
…you know, would decide whether I might or not.

1929
01:03:20,540 –> 01:03:23,540
So, do you get in a vance told…

1930
01:03:23,540 –> 01:03:25,540
…all the bakes for all the weeks…

1931
01:03:25,540 –> 01:03:28,540
…so that you can plan for every week…

1932
01:03:28,540 –> 01:03:30,540
…well ahead.

1933
01:03:30,540 –> 01:03:33,540
And if so, do you plan thoroughly…

1934
01:03:33,540 –> 01:03:35,540
…and know exactly what you’re doing all the way?

1935
01:03:35,540 –> 01:03:37,540
So, you do.

1936
01:03:37,540 –> 01:03:39,540
You get…

1937
01:03:39,540 –> 01:03:42,540
…I think it was…

1938
01:03:42,540 –> 01:03:46,540
…like the first six or five or six episodes…

1939
01:03:46,540 –> 01:03:49,540
…you’ve got given right at the beginning.

1940
01:03:49,540 –> 01:03:52,540
So, that is the…

1941
01:03:52,540 –> 01:03:55,540
…what is it? The…

1942
01:03:55,540 –> 01:03:57,540
…I should know the names of what they’re called, the bakes, right?

1943
01:03:57,540 –> 01:03:59,540
So, you’ve got your own…

1944
01:03:59,540 –> 01:04:01,540
…signature.

1945
01:04:01,540 –> 01:04:03,540
…signature.

1946
01:04:03,540 –> 01:04:05,540
So, you don’t get to tell the technical one…

1947
01:04:05,540 –> 01:04:07,540
…the one you flip over.

1948
01:04:07,540 –> 01:04:09,540
But the other two…

1949
01:04:09,540 –> 01:04:11,540
…showstopper.

1950
01:04:11,540 –> 01:04:13,540
Yeah, signature and showstopper.

1951
01:04:13,540 –> 01:04:15,540
Thanks.

1952
01:04:15,540 –> 01:04:17,540
So, yeah, you do get to tell those…

1953
01:04:17,540 –> 01:04:19,540
…and you were six, one out seven.

1954
01:04:19,540 –> 01:04:21,540
So, yeah, you do get to tell those…

1955
01:04:21,540 –> 01:04:23,540
…and I think you’ve got…

1956
01:04:23,540 –> 01:04:26,540
…the whole series up to like 10 episodes or something.

1957
01:04:26,540 –> 01:04:28,540
And practice as much as you like.

1958
01:04:28,540 –> 01:04:31,540
I practice for like the first…

1959
01:04:31,540 –> 01:04:33,540
…three episodes.

1960
01:04:33,540 –> 01:04:35,540
So, I thought there’s no way I’m gonna get beyond three.

1961
01:04:35,540 –> 01:04:37,540
And you have to write them.

1962
01:04:37,540 –> 01:04:38,540
So, they’ll go this week.

1963
01:04:38,540 –> 01:04:40,540
You’ve got…

1964
01:04:40,540 –> 01:04:41,540
…I don’t…

1965
01:04:41,540 –> 01:04:44,540
…black forest gato and some biscuits.

1966
01:04:44,540 –> 01:04:46,540
You know, biscuits that…

1967
01:04:46,540 –> 01:04:48,540
…I think ours is biscuits that have got to fit in its own tin…

1968
01:04:48,540 –> 01:04:51,540
…that you make and a black forest gato.

1969
01:04:51,540 –> 01:04:53,540
So, we need the ingredients for those things.

1970
01:04:53,540 –> 01:04:55,540
So, you make those and you go actually, I want this…

1971
01:04:55,540 –> 01:04:57,540
…and I want that kind of flower on it.

1972
01:04:57,540 –> 01:05:01,540
You can really stipulate like down to exactly what you want.

1973
01:05:01,540 –> 01:05:02,540
I think this, this and this.

1974
01:05:02,540 –> 01:05:03,540
And then…

1975
01:05:03,540 –> 01:05:04,540
…they get that for you.

1976
01:05:04,540 –> 01:05:08,540
And then you are free to practice that as much as your heart desires.

1977
01:05:08,540 –> 01:05:10,540
Or…

1978
01:05:10,540 –> 01:05:12,540
…in my case…

1979
01:05:12,540 –> 01:05:13,540
…try it once.

1980
01:05:13,540 –> 01:05:14,540
…go that is probably alright.

1981
01:05:14,540 –> 01:05:16,540
And then give it a go on the show.

1982
01:05:16,540 –> 01:05:17,540
And then…

1983
01:05:17,540 –> 01:05:21,540
…you end up baking your icing and you know, it all goes wrong.

1984
01:05:21,540 –> 01:05:22,540
But, um…

1985
01:05:22,540 –> 01:05:23,540
…I remember…

1986
01:05:23,540 –> 01:05:24,540
…so, going back to Nadia…

1987
01:05:24,540 –> 01:05:26,540
…I remember one thing she baked…

1988
01:05:26,540 –> 01:05:28,540
…she practiced eleven times…

1989
01:05:28,540 –> 01:05:30,540
…before she’d gone on.

1990
01:05:30,540 –> 01:05:32,540
But, you know, I…

1991
01:05:32,540 –> 01:05:34,540
…I’m not someone who does that.

1992
01:05:34,540 –> 01:05:35,540
But, that’s purely on me.

1993
01:05:35,540 –> 01:05:37,540
So, yeah, you absolutely can.

1994
01:05:37,540 –> 01:05:38,540
I…

1995
01:05:38,540 –> 01:05:39,540
…do you need to eat it?

1996
01:05:39,540 –> 01:05:40,540
Yeah.

1997
01:05:40,540 –> 01:05:41,540
And I see it. I mean, I was…

1998
01:05:41,540 –> 01:05:42,540
…I did a few…

1999
01:05:42,540 –> 01:05:43,540
…I remember the cheesecake.

2000
01:05:43,540 –> 01:05:44,540
I did a three-tier cheesecake.

2001
01:05:44,540 –> 01:05:46,540
They all had to stack on top of each other.

2002
01:05:46,540 –> 01:05:48,540
Um…

2003
01:05:48,540 –> 01:05:49,540
…and I would…

2004
01:05:49,540 –> 01:05:50,540
…like say, I had to be…

2005
01:05:50,540 –> 01:05:53,540
…like the bottom one was massive.

2006
01:05:53,540 –> 01:05:55,540
And obviously getting smaller and smaller.

2007
01:05:55,540 –> 01:05:57,540
But, the cost it made to…

2008
01:05:57,540 –> 01:05:59,540
…to make three…

2009
01:05:59,540 –> 01:06:02,540
…so I was making those and then taking them to the fire station.

2010
01:06:02,540 –> 01:06:03,540
And it went into the cook…

2011
01:06:03,540 –> 01:06:05,540
…but it went into the great bake off cookbook.

2012
01:06:05,540 –> 01:06:07,540
And I think it said it something like…

2013
01:06:07,540 –> 01:06:08,540
…feeds 36.

2014
01:06:08,540 –> 01:06:11,540
So, that became then a challenge of our, you know,

2015
01:06:11,540 –> 01:06:13,540
…so the six bugs of fire…

2016
01:06:13,540 –> 01:06:14,540
…we’ve got to eat them all.

2017
01:06:14,540 –> 01:06:16,540
So, yeah, I was baking them.

2018
01:06:16,540 –> 01:06:17,540
That was when…

2019
01:06:17,540 –> 01:06:18,540
…that was pre-keyed to our bake stuff.

2020
01:06:18,540 –> 01:06:19,540
It takes the fire station.

2021
01:06:19,540 –> 01:06:22,540
Everyone got horrendously overweight and sick.

2022
01:06:22,540 –> 01:06:23,540
And…

2023
01:06:23,540 –> 01:06:24,540
…now heakes cheesecake.

2024
01:06:24,540 –> 01:06:25,540
Yeah, I mean, it was…

2025
01:06:25,540 –> 01:06:26,540
…it was…

2026
01:06:26,540 –> 01:06:27,540
…they did well for a while.

2027
01:06:27,540 –> 01:06:28,540
Did they?

2028
01:06:28,540 –> 01:06:29,540
Yeah, they did all right.

2029
01:06:29,540 –> 01:06:31,540
And is it a bit like that with the crew?

2030
01:06:31,540 –> 01:06:32,540
Or the crew like…

2031
01:06:32,540 –> 01:06:34,540
…right, I’m having a slice of it.

2032
01:06:34,540 –> 01:06:35,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2033
01:06:35,540 –> 01:06:37,540
They all sort of pile in.

2034
01:06:37,540 –> 01:06:40,540
So, I don’t think I really ate anyone else’s bakes.

2035
01:06:40,540 –> 01:06:41,540
I really…

2036
01:06:41,540 –> 01:06:42,540
…in the smudge is because…

2037
01:06:42,540 –> 01:06:45,540
…I don’t know, like, by the time you’ve done it…

2038
01:06:45,540 –> 01:06:47,540
…and you sort of like sick of them, like baking…

2039
01:06:47,540 –> 01:06:48,540
…like, if you’re baking or doing that…

2040
01:06:48,540 –> 01:06:50,540
…I remember, Ian would go round and try everyone’s…

2041
01:06:50,540 –> 01:06:51,540
…afterwards.

2042
01:06:51,540 –> 01:06:54,540
Afterwards, obviously not whilst he’s still on this, then judging it.

2043
01:06:54,540 –> 01:06:55,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2044
01:06:55,540 –> 01:06:56,540
Don’t dive in him.

2045
01:06:56,540 –> 01:06:57,540
But yeah, so I think the crew…

2046
01:06:57,540 –> 01:06:59,540
…I don’t know why I didn’t get much of it.

2047
01:06:59,540 –> 01:07:00,540
Right.

2048
01:07:00,540 –> 01:07:01,540
But then I, you know, I think…

2049
01:07:01,540 –> 01:07:02,540
…when you’ve stood in the kitchen all day.

2050
01:07:02,540 –> 01:07:03,540
You were kitchen all day?

2051
01:07:03,540 –> 01:07:04,540
Do you have to trunk on tea?

2052
01:07:04,540 –> 01:07:05,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2053
01:07:05,540 –> 01:07:06,540
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2054
01:07:06,540 –> 01:07:07,540
But no, you can’t…

2055
01:07:07,540 –> 01:07:08,540
…you see, you can practice.

2056
01:07:08,540 –> 01:07:10,540
No, great.

2057
01:07:10,540 –> 01:07:11,540
Do it, apply, go for it.

2058
01:07:11,540 –> 01:07:13,540
And if you need someone to test your cakes…

2059
01:07:13,540 –> 01:07:16,540
…yeah, we’ll do that.

2060
01:07:16,540 –> 01:07:17,540
Any other questions?

2061
01:07:17,540 –> 01:07:19,540
Oh, look, another question?

2062
01:07:19,540 –> 01:07:22,540
Hello, my name is Harry.

2063
01:07:22,540 –> 01:07:24,540
I produce all the music for the podcast.

2064
01:07:24,540 –> 01:07:25,540
It’s me!

2065
01:07:25,540 –> 01:07:26,540
It’s…

2066
01:07:26,540 –> 01:07:28,540
…no one will react to that.

2067
01:07:28,540 –> 01:07:30,540
This is actually for Stu and the podcast, generally.

2068
01:07:30,540 –> 01:07:31,540
Oh, okay.

2069
01:07:31,540 –> 01:07:32,540
So you’ve done a whole season now?

2070
01:07:32,540 –> 01:07:33,540
Yeah.

2071
01:07:33,540 –> 01:07:36,540
Do you get nervous interviewing all these awesome guests?

2072
01:07:36,540 –> 01:07:38,540
And did the nerves go up for the live podcast?

2073
01:07:38,540 –> 01:07:41,540
Or do you just go flow state and you know what you’re doing?

2074
01:07:41,540 –> 01:07:44,540
So, do I get nervous in general?

2075
01:07:44,540 –> 01:07:46,540
Was the first part of that, was it?

2076
01:07:46,540 –> 01:07:48,540
Do you get nervous interviewing?

2077
01:07:48,540 –> 01:07:50,540
Yeah, do you know, yes, I do.

2078
01:07:50,540 –> 01:07:54,540
And it definitely went up for this.

2079
01:07:54,540 –> 01:07:57,540
And that’s why at the start…

2080
01:07:57,540 –> 01:07:59,540
…I was thinking we might have to re-record that…

2081
01:07:59,540 –> 01:08:01,540
…the bit I said at the start show.

2082
01:08:01,540 –> 01:08:04,540
Because I got a bit, I sort of got a little bit of my own head…

2083
01:08:04,540 –> 01:08:07,540
…and went, “I know rough cut a lot, I’ve got notes.”

2084
01:08:07,540 –> 01:08:10,540
Look, and they’re all broken down into little bullet points…

2085
01:08:10,540 –> 01:08:12,540
…so I could see with that, and I thought, “I don’t need them.”

2086
01:08:12,540 –> 01:08:14,540
“Let’s destroy my life.”

2087
01:08:14,540 –> 01:08:17,540
…and I should have stuck to them.

2088
01:08:17,540 –> 01:08:20,540
So, yeah, I definitely did get more nervousness…

2089
01:08:20,540 –> 01:08:22,540
…because it’s a different thing.

2090
01:08:22,540 –> 01:08:24,540
You know, it’s a different thing.

2091
01:08:24,540 –> 01:08:27,540
And it’s funny actually, as soon as you asked your question…

2092
01:08:27,540 –> 01:08:30,540
…I thought, “Well, look, spot somebody you used to interview…

2093
01:08:30,540 –> 01:08:32,540
…people for a living, you know, which is…

2094
01:08:32,540 –> 01:08:33,540
…you know.”

2095
01:08:33,540 –> 01:08:37,540
And so it is a thing, you think, “Oh God, am I going to say something stupid?”

2096
01:08:37,540 –> 01:08:39,540
“Am I going to say something that makes me look like an idiot?”

2097
01:08:39,540 –> 01:08:42,540
“That then stew very helpfully cuts out.”

2098
01:08:42,540 –> 01:08:44,540
So, yes, yes, yes, yes.

2099
01:08:44,540 –> 01:08:47,540
“Am I going to get their support from my co-workers?”

2100
01:08:47,540 –> 01:08:48,540
“No, no, no, no.”

2101
01:08:48,540 –> 01:08:50,540
But, yes, so there’s definitely…

2102
01:08:50,540 –> 01:08:52,540
…yes, it does go up, and it…

2103
01:08:52,540 –> 01:08:54,540
…I was a bit sort of nervous before this…

2104
01:08:54,540 –> 01:08:55,540
…and plus, you’ve never…

2105
01:08:55,540 –> 01:08:57,540
…you don’t meet the person that you’re going to speak to…

2106
01:08:57,540 –> 01:08:59,540
…and you’re hope you’re going to get on, and, you know…

2107
01:08:59,540 –> 01:09:02,540
…and of course, obviously, you’re on the tele, I’ve looked at your art…

2108
01:09:02,540 –> 01:09:04,540
…or follow you on Instagram…

2109
01:09:04,540 –> 01:09:07,540
…and you think, “Oh, you know, I hope I don’t…

2110
01:09:07,540 –> 01:09:09,540
…I’ll say it as it is, I hope I don’t…

2111
01:09:09,540 –> 01:09:11,540
…mess I’ve looked like a dick in front of this person.”

2112
01:09:11,540 –> 01:09:14,540
And sometimes, perhaps you do, and like…

2113
01:09:14,540 –> 01:09:17,540
…with certain guests that…

2114
01:09:17,540 –> 01:09:20,540
…if you’ve sort of watched the Monterrey for a long time…

2115
01:09:20,540 –> 01:09:22,540
…or like, with, say Adam Bucsney…

2116
01:09:22,540 –> 01:09:25,540
…and I listen to his podcast a lot, a lot, a lot, all the time…

2117
01:09:25,540 –> 01:09:26,540
…this is to everyone.

2118
01:09:26,540 –> 01:09:29,540
Suddenly you go, “Oh crap, they’ve done this a lot.”

2119
01:09:29,540 –> 01:09:33,540
“I, by the time Adam had been on, we’ve done it, we’ve done three.”

2120
01:09:33,540 –> 01:09:34,540
“We called it three, I think?”

2121
01:09:34,540 –> 01:09:35,540
“Three podcasts.”

2122
01:09:35,540 –> 01:09:36,540
And I thought…

2123
01:09:36,540 –> 01:09:38,540
…he said, “Here’s the podcast, man.”

2124
01:09:38,540 –> 01:09:41,540
“He’s the podcast, man.”

2125
01:09:41,540 –> 01:09:42,540
“Yeah, exactly.”

2126
01:09:42,540 –> 01:09:45,540
And I was like, “Oh, he’s gonna turn up, and I’m gonna go…

2127
01:09:45,540 –> 01:09:48,540
…I’m not gonna know what to say, but you know, actually it was all right.”

2128
01:09:48,540 –> 01:09:51,540
“You sort of have to get over that sort of itchy feeling in your stomach a little.”

2129
01:09:51,540 –> 01:09:53,540
“But some of that’s good, that I think, actually.”

2130
01:09:53,540 –> 01:09:57,540
“It’s the sort of thing that’s getting in a band, you go, “Oh crap, this is gonna be difficult and hard.”

2131
01:09:57,540 –> 01:09:58,540
“And then it’s all right.”

2132
01:09:58,540 –> 01:10:00,540
“So it’s all sort of taking that step, I suppose.”

2133
01:10:00,540 –> 01:10:02,540
“So yes, yes, yes, and yes.”

2134
01:10:02,540 –> 01:10:06,540
“I think it was that enough, yes, yes, did I count there, enough, yes, yes.”

2135
01:10:06,540 –> 01:10:08,540
So, any more questions?

2136
01:10:08,540 –> 01:10:11,540
Hello?

2137
01:10:11,540 –> 01:10:12,540
Hello.

2138
01:10:12,540 –> 01:10:13,540
Megan here?

2139
01:10:13,540 –> 01:10:14,540
Hello, Megan.

2140
01:10:14,540 –> 01:10:16,540
This is sort of a topic of it from what we’ve been talking about.

2141
01:10:16,540 –> 01:10:25,540
But you mentioned, you know, perhaps you got annoyed by monuments or places of interest,

2142
01:10:25,540 –> 01:10:28,540
not looking how you wanted them to or as nice as the pictures.

2143
01:10:28,540 –> 01:10:32,540
But what someway, you said, you hadn’t been with your wife to the pyramids?

2144
01:10:32,540 –> 01:10:38,540
What’s somewhere that you would like to go visit to really hope it looks like the pictures?

2145
01:10:38,540 –> 01:10:44,540
Like what’s your dream location to go and see for yourself to see that sort of view of it?

2146
01:10:44,540 –> 01:10:47,540
So, thank you for that question.

2147
01:10:47,540 –> 01:10:56,540
So, my wife has travelled a lot, and I have travelled not a lot.

2148
01:10:56,540 –> 01:11:01,540
So, if I’ve got to go with my wife, the place is she looks.

2149
01:11:01,540 –> 01:11:02,540
She looks Japan.

2150
01:11:02,540 –> 01:11:03,540
That looks well busy.

2151
01:11:03,540 –> 01:11:04,540
Yeah.

2152
01:11:04,540 –> 01:11:05,540
Great tea, yeah.

2153
01:11:05,540 –> 01:11:08,540
So, we go to places.

2154
01:11:08,540 –> 01:11:09,540
Tea shops.

2155
01:11:09,540 –> 01:11:10,540
Tea shops.

2156
01:11:10,540 –> 01:11:18,540
I think the place that I would like to go, probably not the places that she would like to go.

2157
01:11:18,540 –> 01:11:22,540
So, if I didn’t see what I wanted to see, she’d be going, “Oh, I didn’t want to come here.”

2158
01:11:22,540 –> 01:11:24,540
“Come and not go to Japan.”

2159
01:11:24,540 –> 01:11:28,540
So, if it’s my choice, where would I like to go?

2160
01:11:28,540 –> 01:11:32,540
Somewhere quite, I quite like, I do like hot places.

2161
01:11:32,540 –> 01:11:36,540
So, I like to go, I lived in Australia for a while.

2162
01:11:36,540 –> 01:11:37,540
I like that.

2163
01:11:37,540 –> 01:11:39,540
I’d like to go to Australia with my wife.

2164
01:11:39,540 –> 01:11:43,540
But also, her family, a lot of her family, living in New Zealand.

2165
01:11:43,540 –> 01:11:46,540
So, I’d like to go to New Zealand with her.

2166
01:11:46,540 –> 01:11:49,540
Would you go to that Hobbiton?

2167
01:11:49,540 –> 01:11:52,540
Well, this is where it gets interesting.

2168
01:11:52,540 –> 01:11:53,540
All right.

2169
01:11:53,540 –> 01:11:55,540
Potentially.

2170
01:11:55,540 –> 01:11:57,540
No.

2171
01:11:57,540 –> 01:12:02,540
So, her uncle works, does all those films with Peter Jackson.

2172
01:12:02,540 –> 01:12:04,540
He works with Peter Jackson.

2173
01:12:04,540 –> 01:12:06,540
And has done for all of Peter Jackson’s films.

2174
01:12:06,540 –> 01:12:08,540
So, yeah, I could fully go to that sort of place.

2175
01:12:08,540 –> 01:12:10,540
He knows, yeah, he does all that.

2176
01:12:10,540 –> 01:12:12,540
He does all that film stuff.

2177
01:12:12,540 –> 01:12:14,540
All of the films.

2178
01:12:14,540 –> 01:12:16,540
All of those films.

2179
01:12:16,540 –> 01:12:18,540
So, yeah, I’d like to go to New Zealand.

2180
01:12:18,540 –> 01:12:21,540
But is there a monument in New Zealand, particularly?

2181
01:12:21,540 –> 01:12:23,540
Somewhere just relaxed.

2182
01:12:23,540 –> 01:12:28,540
I don’t know, and this is going to be a weird statement.

2183
01:12:28,540 –> 01:12:30,540
I don’t know what it is I like.

2184
01:12:30,540 –> 01:12:31,540
Really?

2185
01:12:31,540 –> 01:12:33,540
I don’t really like, we go on a holiday.

2186
01:12:33,540 –> 01:12:35,540
My wife loves her favourite thing is holidays.

2187
01:12:35,540 –> 01:12:37,540
I don’t know if I really like beach holidays.

2188
01:12:37,540 –> 01:12:39,540
I don’t like sand.

2189
01:12:39,540 –> 01:12:41,540
Finally quite annoying.

2190
01:12:41,540 –> 01:12:43,540
But I do like surfing.

2191
01:12:43,540 –> 01:12:47,540
I don’t really like massive towns, but I do like having a wander around.

2192
01:12:47,540 –> 01:12:50,540
I don’t know if there is something I’d love to go.

2193
01:12:50,540 –> 01:12:53,540
Is there somewhere I could go this beautiful and then go home at night?

2194
01:12:53,540 –> 01:12:54,540
Yeah.

2195
01:12:54,540 –> 01:12:55,540
That’s ideal.

2196
01:12:55,540 –> 01:12:56,540
That’s Aaron Dolt.

2197
01:12:56,540 –> 01:12:57,540
Sounds like…

2198
01:12:57,540 –> 01:12:58,540
Yeah, yeah.

2199
01:12:58,540 –> 01:12:59,540
Do you know?

2200
01:12:59,540 –> 01:13:00,540
High brooms.

2201
01:13:00,540 –> 01:13:01,540
High brooms.

2202
01:13:01,540 –> 01:13:02,540
He’s bloody nice.

2203
01:13:02,540 –> 01:13:04,540
We all love a bit of high brooms.

2204
01:13:04,540 –> 01:13:06,540
Yeah, yeah, high brooms south.

2205
01:13:06,540 –> 01:13:07,540
I’m a fan of a castle.

2206
01:13:07,540 –> 01:13:08,540
Oh, you?

2207
01:13:08,540 –> 01:13:09,540
I like a castle, yeah.

2208
01:13:09,540 –> 01:13:12,540
I like the thought of standing somewhere and going.

2209
01:13:12,540 –> 01:13:14,540
Somebody with a sword stood here.

2210
01:13:14,540 –> 01:13:15,540
Yeah, I was.

2211
01:13:15,540 –> 01:13:16,540
And the years ago.

2212
01:13:16,540 –> 01:13:21,540
Yeah, probably died or made of pot cast.

2213
01:13:21,540 –> 01:13:22,540
I’m sure they did.

2214
01:13:22,540 –> 01:13:23,540
Pot cast back then.

2215
01:13:23,540 –> 01:13:24,540
Yeah, so…

2216
01:13:24,540 –> 01:13:27,540
I don’t know if I’m into a castle, really.

2217
01:13:27,540 –> 01:13:32,540
But yeah, so Aaron Dolt or somewhere nice and then go home.

2218
01:13:32,540 –> 01:13:33,540
Yeah, yeah.

2219
01:13:33,540 –> 01:13:34,540
But a bit like…

2220
01:13:34,540 –> 01:13:35,540
To know what actually.

2221
01:13:35,540 –> 01:13:36,540
Yeah, it’s a bit like…

2222
01:13:36,540 –> 01:13:37,540
…beings of a nice…

2223
01:13:37,540 –> 01:13:38,540
And then we…

2224
01:13:38,540 –> 01:13:39,540
Are there any other questions?

2225
01:13:39,540 –> 01:13:41,540
Oh, well, we have one more question.

2226
01:13:41,540 –> 01:13:42,540
High for.

2227
01:13:42,540 –> 01:13:43,540
It’s flavour again.

2228
01:13:43,540 –> 01:13:44,540
Hello.

2229
01:13:44,540 –> 01:13:51,540
We’ve not actually spoken much about your art at all and what you do with that and why you started doing it in the first place.

2230
01:13:51,540 –> 01:13:52,540
So…

2231
01:13:52,540 –> 01:13:53,540
What’s your process?

2232
01:13:53,540 –> 01:13:54,540
Why did you do it?

2233
01:13:54,540 –> 01:13:55,540
Thank you very much.

2234
01:13:55,540 –> 01:13:58,540
So I was always really into art.

2235
01:13:58,540 –> 01:14:01,540
I got into art at college when I was…

2236
01:14:01,540 –> 01:14:03,540
…how old were I when I go to art college?

2237
01:14:03,540 –> 01:14:10,540
I then didn’t go to art college because I spoke to my mate Lee who was waiting outside for me.

2238
01:14:10,540 –> 01:14:13,540
He waited out so I did my interview and I went, “Are you going to go to college?”

2239
01:14:13,540 –> 01:14:15,540
“You’re a nurse, if I want, bother them.”

2240
01:14:15,540 –> 01:14:17,540
And that was genuinely the process.

2241
01:14:17,540 –> 01:14:18,540
I could…

2242
01:14:18,540 –> 01:14:21,540
I got in and then I got off in a place the following year and I said, “Are you going to do it?”

2243
01:14:21,540 –> 01:14:23,540
“If you’re a nurse, I won’t even…”

2244
01:14:23,540 –> 01:14:26,540
And I always painted.

2245
01:14:26,540 –> 01:14:28,540
And I was living London before kids.

2246
01:14:28,540 –> 01:14:36,540
I painted every day and I would put my paintings outside of my flat in Angel for people to have

2247
01:14:36,540 –> 01:14:40,540
because I did it purely because I wanted to paint not because I wanted…

2248
01:14:40,540 –> 01:14:44,540
I did it because I did the process of painting.

2249
01:14:44,540 –> 01:14:49,540
And in the last couple of houses I lived in, I draw because I don’t have any way to paint.

2250
01:14:49,540 –> 01:14:51,540
I didn’t have any room.

2251
01:14:51,540 –> 01:14:53,540
I mean it’s really annoying if you can do anything of any size.

2252
01:14:53,540 –> 01:14:57,540
You’ve got to put all your paints away and get all your stuff out and put it all away.

2253
01:14:57,540 –> 01:15:00,540
But now we live in a house we’ve got.

2254
01:15:00,540 –> 01:15:01,540
We’ve put an old house.

2255
01:15:01,540 –> 01:15:03,540
It’s had loads of sort of workshops in the garden.

2256
01:15:03,540 –> 01:15:07,540
And one of those workshops is now in my art studio where I can have everything I want.

2257
01:15:07,540 –> 01:15:09,540
Although my kids still come and take all my stuff.

2258
01:15:09,540 –> 01:15:14,540
But I know where I’ve got paints, I’ve got pencils, I’ve got all the things I need.

2259
01:15:14,540 –> 01:15:17,540
So the style of it really…

2260
01:15:17,540 –> 01:15:21,540
I was really into pop art and Andy Warhol and Keith Harin.

2261
01:15:21,540 –> 01:15:28,540
And I loved Keith Harin sort of the simplicity of it and the bold flat colours of my Andy Warhol

2262
01:15:28,540 –> 01:15:30,540
and that sort of royal-litch and style.

2263
01:15:30,540 –> 01:15:31,540
I’m print making.

2264
01:15:31,540 –> 01:15:34,540
I’ve done a lot of arm movements whilst I talk about this.

2265
01:15:34,540 –> 01:15:39,540
And that’s what I did. So when I was a college or when I was a school,

2266
01:15:39,540 –> 01:15:42,540
I was taken by a teacher to art in the 20th century exhibition at the tape.

2267
01:15:42,540 –> 01:15:44,540
And it was the first time I’d seen big paintings.

2268
01:15:44,540 –> 01:15:47,540
And I think it was in… I think it was like 15.

2269
01:15:47,540 –> 01:15:49,540
And I saw big paintings the first time with flat colour.

2270
01:15:49,540 –> 01:15:51,540
And I was like, that is exactly what I wanted to do.

2271
01:15:51,540 –> 01:15:55,540
So I do it now and I’m quite lucky I’ve got a following on social media.

2272
01:15:55,540 –> 01:15:57,540
And I do little shows.

2273
01:15:57,540 –> 01:16:00,540
I’ve got a show in London this evening.

2274
01:16:00,540 –> 01:16:05,540
This is going on for next week and I’ve got a show in… or a fair in London on Saturday.

2275
01:16:05,540 –> 01:16:09,540
And I love making art and I would do it just for the process of it.

2276
01:16:09,540 –> 01:16:12,540
But I’m now lucky that people want to buy it and it sells quite well.

2277
01:16:12,540 –> 01:16:14,540
And it’s going, “We want to love it.”

2278
01:16:14,540 –> 01:16:19,540
And the fact that I can go to the studio, I would put the radio on, radio six on,

2279
01:16:19,540 –> 01:16:21,540
and just paint on my own.

2280
01:16:21,540 –> 01:16:25,540
That’s genuinely what I feel if I’ve achieved anything.

2281
01:16:25,540 –> 01:16:28,540
I can do what I want to do when I want to do it.

2282
01:16:28,540 –> 01:16:30,540
And I love it. I really love it.

2283
01:16:30,540 –> 01:16:31,540
And it’s great.

2284
01:16:31,540 –> 01:16:35,540
And now we’re working with a local printer who understands the same sort of stuff I want to do.

2285
01:16:35,540 –> 01:16:38,540
And you know, I can go in there and print with him all day.

2286
01:16:38,540 –> 01:16:40,540
And it’s for them all day. I love it.

2287
01:16:40,540 –> 01:16:41,540
Yeah.

2288
01:16:41,540 –> 01:16:42,540
Yeah, perfect.

2289
01:16:42,540 –> 01:16:44,540
What a great answer to a great question.

2290
01:16:44,540 –> 01:16:45,540
Thank you. Thank you very much.

2291
01:16:45,540 –> 01:16:50,540
I think on that super-banzo, we’ll wrap it up and say,

2292
01:16:50,540 –> 01:16:53,540
“Please put your hands together for Matt Riley.”

2293
01:16:53,540 –> 01:16:56,540
And thank you so much for being a guest on the Get Shurty Fox News.

2294
01:16:56,540 –> 01:16:57,540
Thank you very much for having me.

2295
01:16:57,540 –> 01:16:59,540
I’ve never had a live podcast guest.

2296
01:16:59,540 –> 01:17:00,540
So put your hands together for me.

2297
01:17:00,540 –> 01:17:01,540
Thank you.

2298
01:17:01,540 –> 01:17:03,540
Thank you.

2299
01:17:03,540 –> 01:17:05,540
And thank you all so for coming along.

2300
01:17:05,540 –> 01:17:07,540
Everybody, you did come along.

2301
01:17:07,540 –> 01:17:10,540
Well, a fantastic evening. It’s been.

2302
01:17:10,540 –> 01:17:11,540
Thank you very much.

2303
01:17:11,540 –> 01:17:12,540
Good night.

2304
01:17:12,540 –> 01:17:13,540
[APPLAUSE]

2305
01:17:13,540 –> 01:17:15,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2306
01:17:15,540 –> 01:17:17,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2307
01:17:17,540 –> 01:17:36,540
Wow. How fantastic was that?

2308
01:17:36,540 –> 01:17:39,540
We loved recording in front of a live audience.

2309
01:17:39,540 –> 01:17:44,540
It was something different for us and something that we’ll definitely do again.

2310
01:17:44,540 –> 01:17:48,540
It was a great experience and it really sort of changes your approach to it.

2311
01:17:48,540 –> 01:17:50,540
So enjoyed it so much.

2312
01:17:50,540 –> 01:17:52,540
So thank you to everybody who came along and bought a ticket.

2313
01:17:52,540 –> 01:17:55,540
Thank you also to Matt for being such a great guest.

2314
01:17:55,540 –> 01:17:58,540
Really entertaining, great to speak to him.

2315
01:17:58,540 –> 01:18:00,540
I hope he gets to speak to him again, actually.

2316
01:18:00,540 –> 01:18:03,540
Do check out his art on Instagram.

2317
01:18:03,540 –> 01:18:05,540
It’s slightly different to his main Instagram.

2318
01:18:05,540 –> 01:18:07,540
We’ll put links up in the description.

2319
01:18:07,540 –> 01:18:09,540
Yeah, really great to chat with Matt.

2320
01:18:09,540 –> 01:18:13,540
Thanks, as always, to Stu for editing and producing the podcast.

2321
01:18:13,540 –> 01:18:17,540
To Sam, as always, for keeping us on track.

2322
01:18:17,540 –> 01:18:21,540
Great to have that hazard in the room with us as well who provides all the music.

2323
01:18:21,540 –> 01:18:25,540
Just a really wonderful, wonderful event.

2324
01:18:25,540 –> 01:18:27,540
Really enjoyed it.

2325
01:18:27,540 –> 01:18:31,540
Until we speak again, do try not to get too shirty.

2326
01:18:31,540 –> 01:18:33,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2327
01:18:33,540 –> 01:18:35,540
Good shut up.

2328
01:18:35,540 –> 01:18:37,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2329
01:18:37,540 –> 01:18:39,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2330
01:18:39,540 –> 01:18:41,540
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2331
01:18:41,540 –> 01:18:43,540
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2332
01:18:43,540 –> 01:18:45,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2333
01:18:45,540 –> 01:18:47,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2334
01:18:47,540 –> 01:18:49,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2335
01:18:49,540 –> 01:18:51,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2336
01:18:51,540 –> 01:18:53,540
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2337
01:18:53,540 –> 01:18:55,540
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2338
01:18:55,540 –> 01:18:57,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2339
01:18:57,540 –> 01:18:59,540
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2340
01:18:59,540 –> 01:19:27,120
[Music]

2341
01:19:27,120 –> 01:19:28,900
Let’s get shirty!

2342
01:19:28,900 –> 01:19:31,900
(gentle piano music)