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You know it’s um…
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Um…
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I’m sorry, you just come in and talk all over.
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I’m so sorry.
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I haven’t had a clap yet.
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Welcome to Get Shirty, the podcast that likes to look at the little things in life which
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never fail to irritate.
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Each episode we ask our special guest to talk about what gets them shirty at home, work
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and going out.
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Then our off-the-cuff surprise question could take the chat anywhere.
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Each guest also designs their own mate or measure shirt which we then make.
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So we talk about that too.
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Funny that, us being tailors.
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Welcome to Season 2’s episode 3.
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Yes I’m going to stick with seasons, podcasts can have seasons sure .
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So it’s been such a banger of a start to the new season and that’s not changing any
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time soon as today’s guest is Alex Beard.
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Alex is a journalist, broadcaster and presenter and somehow still manages to find the time
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to project manager house renovation and build and share it with us all on her amazing
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social media.
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So fun to talk to Alex and she really had laser precision for these Get Shirtys just to
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join us P2.
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So here we go then, one guest, two mics, three tailors and a host of irritations.
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Let’s get shirty.
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Alex, welcome to the Get Shirty Podcast.
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Thank you.
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Nice to have another lady in the podcast.
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Yeah good, please to represent.
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We want loads more.
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I know quite a few if you need any more.
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Definitely, definitely.
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Send people away, we’d love that.
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I’m slightly worried, I’m going to come clean.
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Yeah because I, having listened to other podcasts, realised what your definition of shirt
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is and I don’t know if I have that level of calm.
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I think I have fine or let’s take shirty and drop the R like that.
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Okay.
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So I’ve tried to find something more mild to discuss.
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I just go straight to rage.
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Yeah good, well do you know and quite often one of the themes actually that comes through
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on the podcast is that people say, oh I’m really quite calm actually, I don’t tend to
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get cross and like I’m always thinking, I get pretty cross, you know, like and I was
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sort of say, oh that’s really zen of you, you know, I’ll think.
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I don’t know what they’re taking, that’s what I want to know.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Is it?
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Yeah because the definition now, in fact, which came out from their live one is, get shirty,
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is one below tetchy, is what.
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So you’re above tetchy, are you?
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Yeah, I think so.
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I think I’m a woman of an age who is patience is thin, basically.
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Right.
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So I’m fine, I’m fine, I’m absolutely not fine.
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Are you losing your shirt?
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I would say I remain fine at most things.
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Right, okay.
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So the line, it takes a bit of time to reach the line, but once you’ve reached the line,
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that’s it.
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Yeah, full red mist, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And do you calm down as quickly?
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Yes, no, I’m fine.
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Good at that, yeah.
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So you’re like, really cross and then in some ways.
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Lots of its free tips, now for better and back down to earth.
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Okay, for the record, if you want to swear, we’re not a non-swearie.
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Okay, for you, because I, yeah, I’ve spent so much of my career not swearing that I feel
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like I’m now in overdrive and I loosely pepper my conversation.
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All right, okay.
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Swear, yeah.
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Because it was, because you’ve done radio and TV, yeah.
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Is there a preference to put that on?
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Yeah, tell it, yeah, love it.
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Although having said, gone back to podcast, we’ve, in COVID had a podcast and it’s actually
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quite a nice, relaxed medium.
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allows you to have a much easier conversation, whereas tell it, it’s like, please tell this
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detailed political story in 90 seconds.
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Yeah.
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So it’s, it’s fast, it’s really abrupt, you have to get to the point really quickly.
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And so audio allows you to have a much looser conversation, which I really enjoy.
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But at the same time, I then get find myself getting incredibly frustrated when people aren’t
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able to get to the top line of things, because I’m like, just tell them what you need to
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say, quicker please.
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All right.
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And that’s telly.
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Right, okay.
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It’s, yeah, it’s, it’s interesting, isn’t it, that sort of, like, I really like podcast
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on, I listened to a lot of podcast, because of that free form conversation, you never
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quite sure where it’s going to go and, you know, you, you sort of, one of the things I find
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frustrating actually gives me a little bit sure to is sometimes when they’re making a
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point, like you say, it’s not sometimes that they don’t get, they’re quick enough, it’s
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just that they forget it and they don’t pick it back up later on.
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And then I’m like, but you were just about to make a really good point about that.
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Yeah.
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And somebody spoke over the top and they never go back to it.
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I think I really wanted to hear what you wanted to say, I suppose you don’t get that in
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telly.
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Not so much, because you’re, you’re out to get that one answer.
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So if someone moves off the subject, you circle back and be like, she’s what I’ve come
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here to ask you is this, I need that answer.
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So you go back and annoy them, the Pacsman style, if you will.
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Yeah.
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I’m just not as obnoxious, I think.
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I’d like to think anyway.
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Well, well, we’ll find out.
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Well, that’s right.
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Yeah, well, yeah.
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Well, yeah.
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And then it’s, like, by the time you have gone, gone, so Pacsman.
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And do you find yourself edit a little bit as when you’re on TV more than, say, Radio or
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podcast?
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Yeah.
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I mean, it’s been a while, so I haven’t been in telly for quite a while now.
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I’ve actually, like, side-step to advertising, just as a result of having kids and other boring,
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predictable.
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But when I first moved into advertising, advertising is really frilly language and lots of,
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I just know top line.
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And I found that, I’m like, I’ve written my proposals.
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Three sentences and everyone’s like, oh, no, we’re expecting three A4 pages.
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The sentiment is still the same.
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I’ve summarised it three sentences.
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It’s a real gear change to me because I’m constantly self-editing.
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I just, even in my life, I’m like, what’s the quickest route to this?
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Very different to how my husband, Matt, who’s also been on your podcast.
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How he operates, he’s a meanderer, lots of, you know, he’s like a meanderering river,
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whereas I’m just like a waterfall.
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But we’re nowhere where we’re going.
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Yeah, so, yeah, every aspect of my life, I think I take that self-edit, telly, quick to the
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point, hence one quick to rage.
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Well, look, let’s get straight in with the rage there.
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Oh, or a shirt.
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Okay.
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Which are you like?
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So, the three sort of first areas that we look at is, so it’s work, rest and play.
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Yeah.
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So, work, what are your work, get shirties?
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Okay.
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That’s quite varied, isn’t it?
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It is quite varied, but I think this is quite a universal shirtie.
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I’m sure that I’m going to have lots of people on board with me here.
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Okay.
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And it’s people who do reply all unnecessarily.
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Okay.
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And I will say that it does eventually send me to a blind rage.
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Right.
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So, I start shirtie, but there’s a really good example about a month ago.
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So, where I work now, thousands of people in this company, someone sent out an email saying,
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really pleased to announce that, so and so, you’ve never heard of, there’s got a job
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so you’ve never heard of.
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Great, you know, like just a classic, all business email and then every fucker in the company
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replies all to congratulate this person we’ve ever heard of.
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I don’t need 55 emails.
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Yeah.
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From somebody I’ve never heard of congratulating somebody.
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I’ve never heard, honestly, by the end of the day.
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Oh, my delete, just like, this is so unnecessary.
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So, yeah, it started off shirtie, but built to a rage.
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I am with you now.
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Okay, thank you.
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I am with you on that.
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Right, I think everybody would be with you on that.
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It is unnecessary.
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Like, and do you think people were doing it consciously?
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Do you think some people just like, oh yeah, reply or was it like, was there, was there,
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Oh no, they were,
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Some virtue seemingly.
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Totally, they were like, I love it.
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Yeah, they were, we’ve seen in the front of the queue with a little flag.
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They’re the people who get to the front of the gig and they get to the front of whenever
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the King’s was taking.
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They’re those people.
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Yeah, see, I think, I think that would probably piss me off more than having to look
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at all the emails, like the sort of sentiment behind them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, too much.
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And it’s all a bit gushy, isn’t it, as well?
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Yeah, it is.
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Come on, let’s remember we’re British.
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Let’s keep it to the lips.
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Yeah, and are you pretty good with emails anyway?
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Oh, yeah, I’m killer.
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I do wish this.
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Yeah, totally.
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I’m one of those people who always has an empty inbox, always, like those people who,
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yeah, I have no time for those people who are like, look at my 23,000, I’m like, you’re
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not?
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No, honestly, it makes me itch, physically itch.
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I don’t know how you can live your life like that, same with WhatsApp, anything like that,
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I’m like, get through it, clear it out, I need to be at zero at all times.
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Yeah, yeah, because you, Stu, you’ve got lots of folders as well, and they sort of, they filter
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into the different folders.
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Perfect.
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Are you a Virgo?
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, I don’t know what that means.
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(Laughter)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Virgo.
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Yes, I am.
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Oh, well, I just don’t know.
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I just don’t know.
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I only know if it was a Virgo, I’ll be like, yeah, that sounds a Virgo.
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You know, that might be very characteristic, I’m not sure.
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Yeah, it could be, couldn’t it?
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Yeah, I can’t, um, it’s not true.
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It’s a wolf.
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No, I like it when I, when you find things that you agree with, confirmation bias, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that bit, I’ll have that bit, yeah.
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Absolutely, yeah, definitely that.
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Yeah, so no, I’m not organised with my emails at all.
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It is a, is it a problem?
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Ah, it can be, it can be, yeah.
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It’s very, if you still know the crowd.
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Yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I’m not the business chief communicator.
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You know, that’s not, that’s not my role in the business because it’s not my forte.
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Um, but, you know, I’ve got a few folders, I’ve got one folder that is dealt with, so once
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I’ve dealt with it, I’ll drag it across into that folder, sometimes.
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That’s it.
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Yeah, so sometimes I’ll take it across to that folder, sometimes I won’t.
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But the minute I’ve dealt with something, it’s, it’s gone out of my mind.
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Yeah.
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So, um, and sometimes the minute I’ve read it and think I’ll deal with that, it’s gone
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out of my mind.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that’s going to say.
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Yeah, it’s happening.
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I’m sure I’m de-like Noses, ADHD, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, um, yeah, so I’m not great with emails.
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So it sounds like you’re, are you sort of that organised in there?
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Oh, God, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, um, we call it in my family, Sergeant Major mode.
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Right, I do.
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I do.
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I do.
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Yeah, I’m a list executor.
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I’m, yeah.
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You’re an achiever.
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I know.
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I know.
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I’m that strong, like that would suggest that I’ve had a lofty, I don’t know.
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Yeah, but even those can just be a day-to-day life achieve.
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Yeah, I’ll go.
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You know, like I’ve got these 10 tasks to do today.
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Yeah.
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One of them is cleaning the other and then six of them are sort of…
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100% that person.
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…getting the kids doing things sorted.
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Yeah, I’m the captain of the ship.
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Yeah.
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The captain doesn’t know which direction they’re going in.
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You’re getting lost at sea, aren’t you?
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That’s how I see my role.
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When I first started dating my husband, who’s the polar opposite of me, he had this little
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Persho sporting thing, blue car.
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And I opened the glove compartment and like a comedy sketch, like a cartoon sketch, all
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these letters started like…
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Oh, okay.
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…out and made, all unopened.
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Yeah.
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I was like, what’s this?
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Yeah.
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And he just said, oh, it’s just my poster, don’t like reading posters because then I have
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to do stuff.
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Right.
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And then instantly, that was my night, sat cross-legged on his bed, just going through all
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of his posts and like replying to things and stuff.
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I can’t…
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If I know that that’s somewhere, I can’t sleep until that’s done.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, that’s, I guess that’s where…
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And it’s a coping mechanism because if there’s something undone, then I get stressy.
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Yeah.
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So that’s where…
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So I do it to piece my own stuff.
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Yeah, but that’s…
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But that’s…
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That’s good in and of itself, because it’s like…
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You know what you need to do for your own well-being and you do it.
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Yeah, true.
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Yeah.
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Rather than, I know that that would make me feel better, but I’m still comfortable.
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I just can’t ignore it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, in terms of your husband, you were a godson then really for him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, but at the same time, like he does the things that I’m not very good at.
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Yeah.
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There is a happy harmony there.
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Yeah, that’s good.
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And you took that initial kind of like, “Oh, God, you’re like that.”
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“Oh, God, you’re like that.”
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To work out that, “Okay, this could work if we just…”
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Yeah.
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We know what divide and conquer is.
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Yeah.
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We know what that is now.
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Yeah, well that’s good.
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Especially at the moment as well with your house.
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With the house, yeah.
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How’s that going?
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Yeah, I mean, hilariously.
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So it’s been taking us like two and a half years to get to this point.
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Right.
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Very…
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there’s been loads of rounds of planning, blah, blah, blah, lots of conversations with the architect.
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And about a couple of months ago, I had the plans out that I was doing something.
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And Matt was like, “Oh, I don’t know if I like that bit.”
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And I’m like, “Absolutely not.”
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Two and a half years down the line, you wake up and decide to have an interest in what we’ve
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drawn.
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No.
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And he’s been brought in on every stage, but in that kind of ADHD thing, he’s sort of like,
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“I’ve seen that done.”
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Yeah.
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Like, “I’ve moved away.”
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And I haven’t got a thing about that.
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Yeah.
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And I’m like, “No, no, no.
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The time for questions have passed.
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This is what’s being built now.”
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I’m very much the…
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I will like and project managing it.
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Yeah.
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And then I give him a shuffle and bill out, dig there and he’ll dig there.
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Yeah.
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So that’s the way that we manage that.
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I saw the videos on your Instagram around all the footings and dig the trenches filling
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up with water.
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Yeah.
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I throw a chicken in there.
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Yeah.
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Or child.
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Or cat.
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Anything but concrete really, ever beginning for a quite a long time.
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And then we couldn’t get the concrete to sight, but you still have to pay for the concrete,
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which was an expensive mistake to me.
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So could it just, it couldn’t reverse down your little line or…?
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No, so I had planned because we live, we’ve got this sounds grand, it’s not grand, we’ve
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got this very, very long skinny drive.
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Yeah.
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And it’s like, I know that something’s not going to get up there.
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Yeah.
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So I pay for, this is very boring in apologies, but I pay for a line pump.
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This is what my chat is now.
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It’s like, line pumps and foundations.
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You know what?
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You’re a rising person, aren’t you?
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Yeah.
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So I paid for a line pump to get up the drive.
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So I knew that was going to be a problem.
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I haven’t anticipated, they couldn’t even get on to our first road, let alone our drive.
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So he was out on a general road, been like, “Kel, Guy, do you feel I have a love?”
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I’m like, “What?”
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So you just had to wave it off, wave off that £2,000 down the road.
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I know.
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But you know what, that’s what happens when you project money to yourself.
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So we’re learning these mistakes now.
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And now even if I order so much as a doorbell, I’m telling people they have to come and
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survey the site before they try to live there.
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Right, okay.
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I’m like, “Don’t care, how big that package is, you can tell me you can deliver it,
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otherwise I’ll rock buying it from you.”
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Yeah.
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So I’m now super paranoid.
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So I’ve learnt my lesson.
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It’s good, you’ve learnt and you’ve implemented times in order to not have the same problem
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again.
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Exactly.
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You’ve got a concrete thing.
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So I found a company that had a much smaller concrete lorry, much smaller, and I said,
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“Come do a, made them, come do a site survey.”
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And they said, “Oh, we can get it all the way up in your drive.”
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I was like, “If you can get it on my drive, I will love you.”
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And the woman was like, “Yep, definitely get it up drive.”
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So I ordered the concrete from them.
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The guy took 45 minutes to get the first load up the drive, then got to the top and he was
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like, “My clutch is about to go, I’m not doing that again.”
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I’m like that, right.
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So then I had to panic find a dumper truck, which I could hire and get to site within an
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hour.
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And then we ran the dumper truck down the drive, filled up with concrete, ran it back up,
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scooped it in.
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So it was still a drama, but I don’t have a trench of my garden anymore.
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I have some concrete.
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So we got there.
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Yeah, blah.
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Yeah, blah.
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And then are you enjoying that process?
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Yeah, love it.
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There’s lists for days.
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And they get shirties around that.
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I mean, like what you’ve just described as sort of there and beyond get shirties.
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Well, I suppose they’re issues just.
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Yeah, weirdly, those sort of things, Matt was quite angry when that first concrete thing
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happened.
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I was absolutely then.
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Right, okay.
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Because what can I, like, the point at which it’s nothing I can do, I can’t make a
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wider road and I can’t make a smaller concrete truck.
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It is what it is.
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Yeah.
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But Matt got quite shirty.
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Right, okay.
430
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, there’s definitely, but, you know, we have had a fight with planning for two years.
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Right, I agree.
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And that’s, yeah.
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That’s the local.
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Yeah, the local counts were really helpful.
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We have a parish council who weighed in.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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I won’t go too much into that because they don’t like me very much, but we won.
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Oh, well, that’s shame on them.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I’ll invite them over for a tea once it’s done.
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Yeah.
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And then, you know, I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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484
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We don’t know anything about this.
485
00:18:24,080 –> 00:18:25,080
We don’t know anything about this.
486
00:18:25,080 –> 00:18:26,080
We don’t know anything about this.
487
00:18:26,080 –> 00:18:27,080
We don’t know anything about this.
488
00:18:27,080 –> 00:18:28,080
We don’t know anything about this.
489
00:18:28,080 –> 00:18:29,080
We don’t know anything about this.
490
00:18:29,080 –> 00:18:30,080
We don’t know anything about this.
491
00:18:30,080 –> 00:18:31,080
We don’t know anything about this.
492
00:18:31,080 –> 00:18:32,080
We don’t know anything about this.
493
00:18:32,080 –> 00:18:33,080
We don’t know anything about this.
494
00:18:33,080 –> 00:18:34,080
We don’t know anything about this.
495
00:18:34,080 –> 00:18:35,080
We don’t know anything about this.
496
00:18:35,080 –> 00:18:38,080
I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
497
00:18:38,080 –> 00:18:39,080
I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
498
00:18:39,080 –> 00:18:40,080
I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
499
00:18:40,080 –> 00:18:41,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
500
00:18:41,080 –> 00:18:42,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
501
00:18:42,080 –> 00:18:43,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
502
00:18:43,080 –> 00:18:44,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
503
00:18:44,080 –> 00:18:45,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
504
00:18:45,080 –> 00:18:46,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
505
00:18:46,080 –> 00:18:47,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
506
00:18:47,080 –> 00:18:48,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
507
00:18:48,080 –> 00:18:49,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
508
00:18:49,080 –> 00:18:50,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
509
00:18:50,080 –> 00:18:51,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
510
00:18:51,080 –> 00:18:58,080
I just want to be really open about how much stuff costs because I think that’s it’s almost a bit of an industry secret.
511
00:18:58,080 –> 00:19:01,080
No one ever really reveals the price of stuff.
512
00:19:01,080 –> 00:19:03,080
How much is it to build your own house?
513
00:19:03,080 –> 00:19:04,080
No one talks about it.
514
00:19:04,080 –> 00:19:05,080
No one talks about it.
515
00:19:05,080 –> 00:19:08,080
You can obviously see those grand signs that they’re like, “Oh, it costs just 1.7 million.”
516
00:19:08,080 –> 00:19:11,080
Well, we’ve got to be able to build a house for less than 1.7 million.
517
00:19:11,080 –> 00:19:15,080
So let’s, I’m going to do walks and all, and I’m going to walk to that.
518
00:19:15,080 –> 00:19:21,080
Oh, so that could be your next thing then, like your own sort of housing program.
519
00:19:21,080 –> 00:19:22,080
Yeah, I’ve got that bit of a dream.
520
00:19:22,080 –> 00:19:23,080
Or would it?
521
00:19:23,080 –> 00:19:24,080
Yeah, absolutely.
522
00:19:24,080 –> 00:19:25,080
Yeah, they absolutely.
523
00:19:25,080 –> 00:19:26,080
Yeah, totally.
524
00:19:26,080 –> 00:19:30,080
Matt and I is the first date we’ve gone through a pub in Tampa, Wales.
525
00:19:30,080 –> 00:19:33,080
And I am inherently nosy and really in town is.
526
00:19:33,080 –> 00:19:38,080
And so we were walking back and I asked him to give me a Lego for a wall search
527
00:19:38,080 –> 00:19:40,080
because I was like, “There’s a house there. I’ve never seen.”
528
00:19:40,080 –> 00:19:43,080
And he had to give me a Lego for a wall so I could have a nose.
529
00:19:43,080 –> 00:19:44,080
So yeah, that would be–
530
00:19:44,080 –> 00:19:46,080
No, proper, proper, yeah, yeah, my nosey bitch, yeah.
531
00:19:46,080 –> 00:19:47,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
532
00:19:47,080 –> 00:19:49,080
Bit of a bitch, yeah.
533
00:19:49,080 –> 00:19:55,080
Yeah, well, there was something about properties and houses and I think there’s an element
534
00:19:55,080 –> 00:19:57,080
of how other people live.
535
00:19:57,080 –> 00:19:58,080
Yeah.
536
00:19:58,080 –> 00:20:00,080
I get a bit like that with other people’s shops.
537
00:20:00,080 –> 00:20:01,080
Do you?
538
00:20:01,080 –> 00:20:04,080
Yeah, and you go, “Oh, I wouldn’t put that there.”
539
00:20:04,080 –> 00:20:07,080
I don’t think you’ll sell better over there or that sort of thing.
540
00:20:07,080 –> 00:20:11,080
I’ll never say it, but you always sort of redesigning people’s shops.
541
00:20:11,080 –> 00:20:14,080
This shop’s perfect, which it isn’t.
542
00:20:14,080 –> 00:20:19,080
But yeah, so, “Oh, good. Well, we’ll look forward to seeing you.”
543
00:20:19,080 –> 00:20:20,080
Yeah, let’s put that in there.
544
00:20:20,080 –> 00:20:21,080
I think you’d be great with that.
545
00:20:21,080 –> 00:20:22,080
Great, yeah.
546
00:20:22,080 –> 00:20:23,080
Thanks.
547
00:20:23,080 –> 00:20:30,080
[SIREN]
548
00:20:30,080 –> 00:20:31,080
So that’s your work, Get Shirtie, that.
549
00:20:31,080 –> 00:20:33,080
Yeah, that’s my work, Get Shirtie.
550
00:20:33,080 –> 00:20:34,080
Emails.
551
00:20:34,080 –> 00:20:35,080
Emails.
552
00:20:35,080 –> 00:20:36,080
Oh, yeah, we travel quite a long way from here.
553
00:20:36,080 –> 00:20:37,080
Yeah, absolutely.
554
00:20:37,080 –> 00:20:38,080
Wow!
555
00:20:38,080 –> 00:20:42,080
So, you’ve been a professional journalist and interviewer.
556
00:20:42,080 –> 00:20:45,080
If you ever just want to bring it back on track, you know, that’s fine, don’t you?
557
00:20:45,080 –> 00:20:47,080
You wanted to steer the ship, you just said.
558
00:20:47,080 –> 00:20:50,080
No, well, I’m happy to steer it, but just be prepared for her.
559
00:20:50,080 –> 00:20:51,080
Grabbing the rudder at the top.
560
00:20:51,080 –> 00:20:52,080
Yeah, you got you.
561
00:20:52,080 –> 00:20:54,080
So, emails, yes, I agree.
562
00:20:54,080 –> 00:20:55,080
What about rest?
563
00:20:55,080 –> 00:20:56,080
So that’s being at home.
564
00:20:56,080 –> 00:20:57,080
Being at home.
565
00:20:57,080 –> 00:21:01,080
You know, what’s that sort of when in your downtime, not the going outside of things,
566
00:21:01,080 –> 00:21:03,080
what are you get shirties?
567
00:21:03,080 –> 00:21:05,080
You don’t have to point the finger?
568
00:21:05,080 –> 00:21:06,080
No, there’s no finger.
569
00:21:06,080 –> 00:21:08,080
But it’s okay, what I’m pointing at, slugs.
570
00:21:08,080 –> 00:21:09,080
Slugs?
571
00:21:09,080 –> 00:21:10,080
Yeah.
572
00:21:10,080 –> 00:21:11,080
Where do they live?
573
00:21:11,080 –> 00:21:12,080
I do not understand it, right?
574
00:21:12,080 –> 00:21:13,080
I don’t understand that.
575
00:21:13,080 –> 00:21:14,080
We, and you’re ducking.
576
00:21:14,080 –> 00:21:15,080
Well, can you keep them there, please?
577
00:21:15,080 –> 00:21:18,080
All the world slugs, a little under there.
578
00:21:18,080 –> 00:21:19,080
I don’t understand it.
579
00:21:19,080 –> 00:21:24,080
So, we are obviously living in a house that is not great at the moment because it will be renovated.
580
00:21:24,080 –> 00:21:27,080
And every morning I come down, there’s been a slug party.
581
00:21:27,080 –> 00:21:31,080
I don’t know where those fuckers are, but they leave a trail and it is like glistening.
582
00:21:31,080 –> 00:21:32,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
583
00:21:32,080 –> 00:21:34,080
And then, like, also, I’ve got chickens.
584
00:21:34,080 –> 00:21:35,080
Why don’t my chickens eat them?
585
00:21:35,080 –> 00:21:36,080
Yeah.
586
00:21:36,080 –> 00:21:37,080
Who, why do we need slugs?
587
00:21:37,080 –> 00:21:38,080
It’s my question.
588
00:21:38,080 –> 00:21:39,080
Do we need slugs?
589
00:21:39,080 –> 00:21:40,080
I know.
590
00:21:40,080 –> 00:21:41,080
I don’t know.
591
00:21:41,080 –> 00:21:42,080
There must be something to do with biodiversity.
592
00:21:42,080 –> 00:21:43,080
Yeah, I’m sure.
593
00:21:43,080 –> 00:21:47,080
Because I don’t think they quite break down the soil like worms, do, obviously.
594
00:21:47,080 –> 00:21:48,080
Yeah.
595
00:21:48,080 –> 00:21:49,080
And I don’t think there is beneficial as snails.
596
00:21:49,080 –> 00:21:50,080
No.
597
00:21:50,080 –> 00:21:51,080
Yeah, I don’t know.
598
00:21:51,080 –> 00:21:52,080
I thought chicken slugs.
599
00:21:52,080 –> 00:21:53,080
I thought chicken slugs.
600
00:21:53,080 –> 00:21:54,080
I thought chicken slugs.
601
00:21:54,080 –> 00:21:55,080
I thought chicken slugs.
602
00:21:55,080 –> 00:21:56,080
I’ve got fussy chickens.
603
00:21:56,080 –> 00:21:57,080
You could have already put away at night, right?
604
00:21:57,080 –> 00:21:58,080
Yeah.
605
00:21:58,080 –> 00:21:59,080
So, there’s not a different way.
606
00:21:59,080 –> 00:22:01,080
Well, the thing is, slugs are a little bit more than that.
607
00:22:01,080 –> 00:22:02,080
Yeah.
608
00:22:02,080 –> 00:22:09,760
So, the thing is, slugs are a little bit like that one episode of X-Files, where there was
609
00:22:09,760 –> 00:22:12,080
that character that could get through any gap.
610
00:22:12,080 –> 00:22:13,080
Did you remember that?
611
00:22:13,080 –> 00:22:16,080
No, but my references, flat-standly, you also said X-Files.
612
00:22:16,080 –> 00:22:17,080
Flat-standly, yeah.
613
00:22:17,080 –> 00:22:18,080
See, I love flat-standly.
614
00:22:18,080 –> 00:22:19,080
Yeah.
615
00:22:19,080 –> 00:22:24,280
So, they can fit through incredibly small gaps, slugs.
616
00:22:24,280 –> 00:22:25,280
And they hide.
617
00:22:25,280 –> 00:22:27,280
They are daytime hiders.
618
00:22:27,280 –> 00:22:28,280
Yeah.
619
00:22:28,280 –> 00:22:29,280
So, they do.
620
00:22:29,280 –> 00:22:30,280
Yeah.
621
00:22:30,280 –> 00:22:34,160
And then that moment that you step out online, oh, I could put a milk bottle out for the
622
00:22:34,160 –> 00:22:36,160
milkman and put in your toes.
623
00:22:36,160 –> 00:22:37,160
A bit better.
624
00:22:37,160 –> 00:22:38,160
Yeah.
625
00:22:38,160 –> 00:22:39,160
Or for, or for, or for.
626
00:22:39,160 –> 00:22:40,160
Yeah.
627
00:22:40,160 –> 00:22:41,160
What is the point of them?
628
00:22:41,160 –> 00:22:42,160
That’s bad.
629
00:22:42,160 –> 00:22:43,160
That is bad.
630
00:22:43,160 –> 00:22:44,160
I’ve been ironed and do a slug run.
631
00:22:44,160 –> 00:22:45,160
Do you do a slug run?
632
00:22:45,160 –> 00:22:46,160
Do you do a slug run?
633
00:22:46,160 –> 00:22:47,160
Do you do a slug run?
634
00:22:47,160 –> 00:22:48,160
Do you do a slug run?
635
00:22:48,160 –> 00:22:49,160
Do you do a slug run?
636
00:22:49,160 –> 00:22:50,160
Do you do a slug run?
637
00:22:50,160 –> 00:22:51,160
Do you do a slug run?
638
00:22:51,160 –> 00:22:52,160
Do you do a slug run?
639
00:22:52,160 –> 00:22:53,160
Do you do a slug run?
640
00:22:53,160 –> 00:22:54,160
Do you do a slug run?
641
00:22:54,160 –> 00:22:55,160
Do you do a slug run?
642
00:22:55,160 –> 00:22:56,160
Do you do a slug run?
643
00:22:56,160 –> 00:23:05,040
Do you do a slug run?
644
00:23:05,040 –> 00:23:06,040
Do you do a slug run?
645
00:23:06,040 –> 00:23:07,040
Do you do a slug run?
646
00:23:07,040 –> 00:23:08,040
Do you do a slug run?
647
00:23:08,040 –> 00:23:09,040
Do you do a slug run?
648
00:23:09,040 –> 00:23:10,040
Do you do a slug run?
649
00:23:10,040 –> 00:23:11,040
Do you do a slug run?
650
00:23:11,040 –> 00:23:12,040
Do you do a slug run?
651
00:23:12,040 –> 00:23:13,040
Do you do a slug run?
652
00:23:13,040 –> 00:23:14,040
Do you do a slug run?
653
00:23:14,040 –> 00:23:15,040
Do you do a slug run?
654
00:23:15,040 –> 00:23:16,040
Do you do a slug run?
655
00:23:16,040 –> 00:23:17,040
Do you do a slug run?
656
00:23:17,040 –> 00:23:18,040
Do you do a slug run?
657
00:23:18,040 –> 00:23:19,040
Do you do a slug run?
658
00:23:19,040 –> 00:23:20,040
Do you do a slug run?
659
00:23:20,040 –> 00:23:21,040
Do you do a slug run?
660
00:23:21,040 –> 00:23:22,040
Do you do a slug run?
661
00:23:22,040 –> 00:23:23,040
Do you do a slug run?
662
00:23:23,040 –> 00:23:24,040
Do you do a slug run?
663
00:23:24,040 –> 00:23:25,040
Do you do a slug run?
664
00:23:25,040 –> 00:23:26,040
Do you do a slug run?
665
00:23:26,040 –> 00:23:27,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
666
00:23:27,040 –> 00:23:28,040
They must have lungs.
667
00:23:28,040 –> 00:23:29,040
They must have lungs.
668
00:23:29,040 –> 00:23:30,040
They must have lungs.
669
00:23:30,040 –> 00:23:31,040
They must have lungs.
670
00:23:31,040 –> 00:23:32,040
I don’t know.
671
00:23:32,040 –> 00:23:33,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
672
00:23:33,040 –> 00:23:34,040
They must have lungs.
673
00:23:34,040 –> 00:23:35,040
I don’t know.
674
00:23:35,040 –> 00:23:36,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
675
00:23:36,040 –> 00:23:37,040
They must have lungs.
676
00:23:37,040 –> 00:23:38,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
677
00:23:38,040 –> 00:23:39,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
678
00:23:39,040 –> 00:23:40,040
They must have lungs.
679
00:23:40,040 –> 00:23:41,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
680
00:23:41,040 –> 00:23:42,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
681
00:23:42,040 –> 00:23:43,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
682
00:23:43,040 –> 00:23:44,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
683
00:23:44,040 –> 00:23:45,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
684
00:23:45,040 –> 00:23:46,040
They must have lungs.
685
00:23:46,040 –> 00:23:47,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
686
00:23:47,040 –> 00:23:48,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
687
00:23:48,040 –> 00:23:49,040
They must have lungs.
688
00:23:49,040 –> 00:23:50,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
689
00:23:50,040 –> 00:23:51,040
They must have lungs.
690
00:23:51,040 –> 00:23:52,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
691
00:23:52,040 –> 00:23:53,040
They must have lungs.
692
00:23:53,040 –> 00:23:55,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
693
00:23:55,040 –> 00:23:56,040
No, because they’re pointless.
694
00:23:56,040 –> 00:23:57,040
What’s the point in teaching people about slugs?
695
00:23:57,040 –> 00:23:58,040
They do have to play for it.
696
00:23:58,040 –> 00:23:59,040
They have to play for it.
697
00:23:59,040 –> 00:24:00,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
698
00:24:00,040 –> 00:24:01,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
699
00:24:01,040 –> 00:24:02,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
700
00:24:02,040 –> 00:24:03,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
701
00:24:03,040 –> 00:24:04,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
702
00:24:04,040 –> 00:24:05,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
703
00:24:05,040 –> 00:24:06,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
704
00:24:06,040 –> 00:24:07,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
705
00:24:07,040 –> 00:24:08,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
706
00:24:08,040 –> 00:24:09,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
707
00:24:09,040 –> 00:24:10,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
708
00:24:10,040 –> 00:24:11,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
709
00:24:11,040 –> 00:24:12,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
710
00:24:12,040 –> 00:24:13,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
711
00:24:13,040 –> 00:24:14,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
712
00:24:14,040 –> 00:24:24,040
For the world slugs live under your deck in as well.
713
00:24:24,040 –> 00:24:26,040
I would love some hedgehogs.
714
00:24:26,040 –> 00:24:27,040
Okay.
715
00:24:27,040 –> 00:24:29,040
Listen to things to do tonight then.
716
00:24:29,040 –> 00:24:30,040
Okay.
717
00:24:30,040 –> 00:24:32,040
Then you’ve got to be careful with your hedgehogs.
718
00:24:32,040 –> 00:24:33,040
So be careful with your hedgehogs.
719
00:24:33,040 –> 00:24:34,040
Careful with your compost tape with hedgehogs.
720
00:24:34,040 –> 00:24:35,040
Why?
721
00:24:35,040 –> 00:24:38,040
Because they like to go in and sleep in compost tape.
722
00:24:38,040 –> 00:24:39,040
Why do they need to be careful?
723
00:24:39,040 –> 00:24:41,040
Well, because you can kill a hedgehog easily.
724
00:24:41,040 –> 00:24:44,040
Oh, okay.
725
00:24:44,040 –> 00:24:46,040
Yeah, by sort of digging in with your fork.
726
00:24:46,040 –> 00:24:47,040
Oh, of course.
727
00:24:47,040 –> 00:24:48,040
Yeah, okay.
728
00:24:48,040 –> 00:24:49,040
You can kill it.
729
00:24:49,040 –> 00:24:50,040
Oh, of course.
730
00:24:50,040 –> 00:24:51,040
This is Ted to Springwatch.
731
00:24:51,040 –> 00:24:52,040
Oh, yeah.
732
00:24:52,040 –> 00:24:53,040
Who knew?
733
00:24:53,040 –> 00:24:55,040
Perhaps there’s a new direction for the podcast.
734
00:24:55,040 –> 00:24:59,040
So, yeah, so slugs on my 100% with you on that.
735
00:24:59,040 –> 00:25:00,040
Okay.
736
00:25:00,040 –> 00:25:01,040
So Steve, by the sound.
737
00:25:01,040 –> 00:25:02,040
Yeah.
738
00:25:02,040 –> 00:25:03,040
Sound by people.
739
00:25:03,040 –> 00:25:04,040
Yeah, I’ll give you a minute.
740
00:25:04,040 –> 00:25:05,040
Yeah.
741
00:25:05,040 –> 00:25:06,040
You’ll show off.
742
00:25:06,040 –> 00:25:07,040
Yeah.
743
00:25:07,040 –> 00:25:08,040
What are you?
744
00:25:08,040 –> 00:25:09,040
I don’t know.
745
00:25:09,040 –> 00:25:10,040
Really?
746
00:25:10,040 –> 00:25:10,040
Yeah, I don’t know.
747
00:25:10,040 –> 00:25:11,040
It’s that.
748
00:25:11,040 –> 00:25:12,040
Town slugs.
749
00:25:12,040 –> 00:25:15,040
Slugs get to their outskirts of a town going on.
750
00:25:15,040 –> 00:25:16,040
Oh, no, thanks.
751
00:25:16,040 –> 00:25:17,040
That’s a town.
752
00:25:17,040 –> 00:25:18,040
It’s a town, I’m not going on a big point.
753
00:25:18,040 –> 00:25:19,040
Yeah, time to drive.
754
00:25:19,040 –> 00:25:20,040
We’re not going in there.
755
00:25:20,040 –> 00:25:21,040
We’re going in there.
756
00:25:21,040 –> 00:25:22,040
It’s way too.
757
00:25:22,040 –> 00:25:23,040
I’ll be a little minigun.
758
00:25:23,040 –> 00:25:28,040
(Music)
759
00:25:28,040 –> 00:25:31,040
Work, rest, and what about going out?
760
00:25:31,040 –> 00:25:32,040
Okay.
761
00:25:32,040 –> 00:25:34,040
I’ve taken a different tactic going out because
762
00:25:34,040 –> 00:25:36,040
don’t go out that often.
763
00:25:36,040 –> 00:25:37,040
No.
764
00:25:37,040 –> 00:25:38,040
Sadly, anymore.
765
00:25:38,040 –> 00:25:39,040
Yeah.
766
00:25:39,040 –> 00:25:44,040
I’ve been a competitive swimmer most of my life until recently.
767
00:25:44,040 –> 00:25:45,040
I watch it, okay.
768
00:25:45,040 –> 00:25:49,040
So, my get shirty is people who go in the fast lane
769
00:25:49,040 –> 00:25:50,040
they shouldn’t be in the fast lane.
770
00:25:50,040 –> 00:25:51,040
Right, okay.
771
00:25:51,040 –> 00:25:53,040
And I’m going to say something controversial now.
772
00:25:53,040 –> 00:25:56,040
They’re normally middle-aged men who are in the fast lane.
773
00:25:56,040 –> 00:25:58,040
That shouldn’t be in the fast lane.
774
00:25:58,040 –> 00:26:00,040
And I will get in the fast lane.
775
00:26:00,040 –> 00:26:01,040
Yeah.
776
00:26:01,040 –> 00:26:03,040
And I will swim and they’ll inevitably lap them.
777
00:26:03,040 –> 00:26:04,040
Yeah.
778
00:26:04,040 –> 00:26:08,040
And then they get really shirty that someone has overtaken them.
779
00:26:08,040 –> 00:26:12,040
And sometimes when I train I strap my feet together.
780
00:26:12,040 –> 00:26:13,040
Right.
781
00:26:13,040 –> 00:26:14,040
And put weights on the end.
782
00:26:14,040 –> 00:26:16,040
I rendering my legs useless.
783
00:26:16,040 –> 00:26:17,040
Okay.
784
00:26:17,040 –> 00:26:18,040
To build my arms.
785
00:26:18,040 –> 00:26:21,040
And when I do that, quite often,
786
00:26:21,040 –> 00:26:24,040
those people who’ve got shirty with me being faster than them,
787
00:26:24,040 –> 00:26:26,040
really enjoy the fact that they can lap for me
788
00:26:26,040 –> 00:26:28,040
and be really quite victriolic about it.
789
00:26:28,040 –> 00:26:29,040
Right, I can.
790
00:26:29,040 –> 00:26:30,040
When I’ve rendered half my body useless.
791
00:26:30,040 –> 00:26:31,040
Right, okay.
792
00:26:31,040 –> 00:26:33,040
Just such a hollow victory.
793
00:26:33,040 –> 00:26:34,040
Yeah.
794
00:26:34,040 –> 00:26:37,040
But it’s this sort of unspoken shirtiness within the pool.
795
00:26:37,040 –> 00:26:38,040
Yeah.
796
00:26:38,040 –> 00:26:40,040
That really reminds me of it is.
797
00:26:40,040 –> 00:26:41,040
Yeah.
798
00:26:41,040 –> 00:26:43,040
So there’s a lot, there’s a lot.
799
00:26:43,040 –> 00:26:45,040
Is there a lot to pick there, though?
800
00:26:45,040 –> 00:26:47,040
Well, I think there is, because look, it’s etiquette.
801
00:26:47,040 –> 00:26:48,040
Yeah, is it etiquette?
802
00:26:48,040 –> 00:26:51,040
And they’re not following the agreed etiquette.
803
00:26:51,040 –> 00:26:52,040
Yes.
804
00:26:52,040 –> 00:26:55,040
Which, so there’s a shirty straight off the bat.
805
00:26:55,040 –> 00:26:56,040
Yeah.
806
00:26:56,040 –> 00:27:00,040
That sort of entitlement is in there as well, surely.
807
00:27:00,040 –> 00:27:01,040
Yeah, absolutely.
808
00:27:01,040 –> 00:27:05,040
And then the, well, like the hollow victory is, you say,
809
00:27:05,040 –> 00:27:08,040
that sort of ego, yeah.
810
00:27:08,040 –> 00:27:13,040
I mean, that, look, being a man of a certain age,
811
00:27:13,040 –> 00:27:18,040
it never ceases to amaze me how that sort of male ego,
812
00:27:18,040 –> 00:27:20,040
I mean, is it generally,
813
00:27:20,040 –> 00:27:22,040
and is it the same group of men?
814
00:27:22,040 –> 00:27:24,040
I mean, I don’t recognise that.
815
00:27:24,040 –> 00:27:25,040
Oh, right.
816
00:27:25,040 –> 00:27:26,040
It’s not like me.
817
00:27:26,040 –> 00:27:27,040
It’s like four blocs.
818
00:27:27,040 –> 00:27:28,040
No, no, no.
819
00:27:28,040 –> 00:27:29,040
No, no.
820
00:27:29,040 –> 00:27:30,040
You can almost always spot them.
821
00:27:30,040 –> 00:27:31,040
Right.
822
00:27:31,040 –> 00:27:33,040
And I think it’s because when I come,
823
00:27:33,040 –> 00:27:36,040
I think the great thing about swimming is that people can be excellence swimmers,
824
00:27:36,040 –> 00:27:38,040
but you wouldn’t know it by looking at them until they get in the water.
825
00:27:38,040 –> 00:27:39,040
Right, I think.
826
00:27:39,040 –> 00:27:44,040
And I think a lot of people who perhaps haven’t grown up in the swimming world don’t really know that.
827
00:27:44,040 –> 00:27:48,040
So they will, like, go, all the, you know, the slim muscle bloke is going to be the better swimmer.
828
00:27:48,040 –> 00:27:49,040
Yeah.
829
00:27:49,040 –> 00:27:51,040
I’m like, just watch Jasper.
830
00:27:51,040 –> 00:27:53,040
And I’ll, like, get in the water and I’ll whip him.
831
00:27:53,040 –> 00:27:54,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
832
00:27:54,040 –> 00:27:56,040
And I think it’s, it’s humbling.
833
00:27:56,040 –> 00:27:57,040
Yeah.
834
00:27:57,040 –> 00:27:58,040
Don’t get me wrong.
835
00:27:58,040 –> 00:27:59,040
I’m rubbish at every other sport.
836
00:27:59,040 –> 00:28:00,040
Okay.
837
00:28:00,040 –> 00:28:01,040
And therefore I wouldn’t enter.
838
00:28:01,040 –> 00:28:06,040
I wouldn’t enter myself into the first league of football because I know I’m not good enough for that.
839
00:28:06,040 –> 00:28:07,040
Yeah.
840
00:28:07,040 –> 00:28:11,040
I think it’s just there’s something about swimming where people go fast-ling, yeah, that’s me.
841
00:28:11,040 –> 00:28:12,040
Yeah.
842
00:28:12,040 –> 00:28:13,040
No, it’s not.
843
00:28:13,040 –> 00:28:14,040
No, it’s not.
844
00:28:14,040 –> 00:28:16,040
And no other sport with that exists.
845
00:28:16,040 –> 00:28:22,040
No, yeah, like the football one, you can have somebody run out on the pitch run really slowly in front of the person who’s talking about the ball.
846
00:28:22,040 –> 00:28:25,040
And then turn round and sort of, like, get across of them.
847
00:28:25,040 –> 00:28:27,040
Yeah, same reason I don’t enter myself into Wimbledon.
848
00:28:27,040 –> 00:28:28,040
Yeah.
849
00:28:28,040 –> 00:28:29,040
I’m not of that level.
850
00:28:29,040 –> 00:28:30,040
No.
851
00:28:30,040 –> 00:28:32,040
Yeah, like I said niche, sorry, niche.
852
00:28:32,040 –> 00:28:36,040
No, but I don’t think that’s as niche as, okay.
853
00:28:36,040 –> 00:28:41,040
I would say, I mean, I don’t go to swimming pool particularly.
854
00:28:41,040 –> 00:28:49,040
I’m not a great swimmer, but I know having spoken to other people who do go swimming, the fast lane is a thing.
855
00:28:49,040 –> 00:28:50,040
Yeah.
856
00:28:50,040 –> 00:28:51,040
You know, it’s there for a reason, isn’t it?
857
00:28:51,040 –> 00:28:52,040
Yeah.
858
00:28:52,040 –> 00:28:56,040
It’s not there for, you know, just a general spruce about it.
859
00:28:56,040 –> 00:28:57,040
Yeah.
860
00:28:57,040 –> 00:29:00,040
So, if you’re a breaststroke with your head up, you have no place in the fast lane.
861
00:29:00,040 –> 00:29:01,040
Right.
862
00:29:01,040 –> 00:29:03,040
There’s my controversial take.
863
00:29:03,040 –> 00:29:04,040
Swimming hat?
864
00:29:04,040 –> 00:29:06,040
Yeah, swimming hat goggles, always, for me.
865
00:29:06,040 –> 00:29:08,040
Oh, yeah, it’s a very young, I try to sport video, probably.
866
00:29:08,040 –> 00:29:09,040
Yeah.
867
00:29:09,040 –> 00:29:10,040
Yeah.
868
00:29:10,040 –> 00:29:13,040
It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a strong look.
869
00:29:13,040 –> 00:29:14,040
Yeah.
870
00:29:14,040 –> 00:29:20,040
Yeah, I mean, perhaps, you know, when you get your shirt that we’ve done for your props, you know, you could rock that look.
871
00:29:20,040 –> 00:29:21,040
You could try it.
872
00:29:21,040 –> 00:29:22,040
Yeah, it’s like how you’d have to rock that look.
873
00:29:22,040 –> 00:29:23,040
Yeah.
874
00:29:23,040 –> 00:29:27,040
Yeah, nice, nice linen shirt. I think we haven’t, we’re, we’ll talk about the shirt in a minute, but.
875
00:29:27,040 –> 00:29:32,040
Yeah, I know, I think it is, but it, it, there is an etiquette to it, isn’t it?
876
00:29:32,040 –> 00:29:34,040
And it’s, see, that’s a git shirt.
877
00:29:34,040 –> 00:29:37,040
It’s, on its own, you know, you could have sort of gone with that.
878
00:29:37,040 –> 00:29:39,040
Or if there’s an etiquette, and people don’t follow it.
879
00:29:39,040 –> 00:29:40,040
Yes.
880
00:29:40,040 –> 00:29:41,040
Yeah, I think that’s a universal, isn’t it?
881
00:29:41,040 –> 00:29:42,040
Yeah.
882
00:29:42,040 –> 00:29:49,040
And also, just, not be humble that I hate that phrase, but just like, I think just owning where your strengths are, maybe,
883
00:29:49,040 –> 00:29:53,040
or they’re not as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People could be better than you at things.
884
00:29:53,040 –> 00:29:54,040
And that’s okay.
885
00:29:54,040 –> 00:29:55,040
Yeah, and that’s okay.
886
00:29:55,040 –> 00:29:59,040
People are better than me at absolutely everything, but sometimes I’m better than you in the pool.
887
00:29:59,040 –> 00:30:00,040
And that’s all right.
888
00:30:00,040 –> 00:30:02,040
And you’ve got your own lanes over there.
889
00:30:02,040 –> 00:30:03,040
Yeah.
890
00:30:03,040 –> 00:30:05,040
This is the lane where I can, yeah, swim fast.
891
00:30:05,040 –> 00:30:08,040
Yeah, actually, swim up and down without going in the fast lane.
892
00:30:08,040 –> 00:30:09,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
893
00:30:09,040 –> 00:30:10,040
Yeah, yeah.
894
00:30:10,040 –> 00:30:15,040
I tell you where it’s really good is Pell’s Paul in Lewis, which is beautiful, I do.
895
00:30:15,040 –> 00:30:16,040
Lovely, cold.
896
00:30:16,040 –> 00:30:17,040
Right.
897
00:30:17,040 –> 00:30:23,040
And when I go there, I do not go anywhere near that fast lane because I know the people who use that Paul, they’re serious people.
898
00:30:23,040 –> 00:30:24,040
Right, okay.
899
00:30:24,040 –> 00:30:26,040
Because it’s a 50 meter pool, it’s outdoors and it’s not heated.
900
00:30:26,040 –> 00:30:29,040
So the people that are in that pool are there to swim.
901
00:30:29,040 –> 00:30:30,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
902
00:30:30,040 –> 00:30:31,040
And don’t properly.
903
00:30:31,040 –> 00:30:33,040
So yeah, I wouldn’t dare venture into a fast lane there.
904
00:30:33,040 –> 00:30:34,040
Yeah.
905
00:30:34,040 –> 00:30:36,040
I’ll go down to medium, possibly even slower if I’m having a lazy day.
906
00:30:36,040 –> 00:30:37,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
907
00:30:37,040 –> 00:30:39,040
Just knowing, knowing your pace.
908
00:30:39,040 –> 00:30:40,040
Yeah, yeah, that’s good.
909
00:30:40,040 –> 00:30:42,040
So all the expand on your shirt, yeah?
910
00:30:42,040 –> 00:30:43,040
Okay, go on.
911
00:30:43,040 –> 00:30:44,040
Different perspective.
912
00:30:44,040 –> 00:30:45,040
Yeah.
913
00:30:45,040 –> 00:30:46,040
It’s the other way around.
914
00:30:46,040 –> 00:30:51,040
It’s people who are in the recreation side who should be over in the ladies.
915
00:30:51,040 –> 00:30:52,040
Oh, okay.
916
00:30:52,040 –> 00:30:54,040
Oh, it’s controversial, but I get it.
917
00:30:54,040 –> 00:30:55,040
Because I can’t swim.
918
00:30:55,040 –> 00:30:56,040
Okay.
919
00:30:56,040 –> 00:30:59,040
I’m learning to, my wife’s a swim instructor.
920
00:30:59,040 –> 00:31:02,040
So a few years ago, she was teaching me to swim.
921
00:31:02,040 –> 00:31:08,040
I was learning to swim and of course people that should have been over there swimming, were getting annoyed at me because of my friends.
922
00:31:08,040 –> 00:31:10,040
Oh, yeah, that’s not fair either.
923
00:31:10,040 –> 00:31:11,040
It’s both enough having the children go.
924
00:31:11,040 –> 00:31:15,040
Why is that man got all those noodles around him, daddy?
925
00:31:15,040 –> 00:31:16,040
There you go.
926
00:31:16,040 –> 00:31:17,040
I feel like bad luck.
927
00:31:17,040 –> 00:31:20,040
When you’ve got people who can swim, get out of the way.
928
00:31:20,040 –> 00:31:22,040
Yeah, there’s a space for you.
929
00:31:22,040 –> 00:31:23,040
Yeah, as much as you like.
930
00:31:23,040 –> 00:31:24,040
Yeah.
931
00:31:24,040 –> 00:31:25,040
So it wasn’t both places.
932
00:31:25,040 –> 00:31:26,040
It’s 100% does.
933
00:31:26,040 –> 00:31:27,040
Yeah.
934
00:31:27,040 –> 00:31:28,040
Yeah.
935
00:31:28,040 –> 00:31:33,040
And, and Jessica, you know, that’s, that’s poor Jessica, either way, isn’t it?
936
00:31:33,040 –> 00:31:34,040
Yeah.
937
00:31:34,040 –> 00:31:35,040
Yeah.
938
00:31:35,040 –> 00:31:38,040
See, I need the sink lane, I think, is the lane.
939
00:31:38,040 –> 00:31:40,040
Just getting, go straight down.
940
00:31:40,040 –> 00:31:43,040
Or the diving pit basically, just found at the bottom somewhere.
941
00:31:43,040 –> 00:31:45,040
Or a lane that goes width ways.
942
00:31:45,040 –> 00:31:49,040
Yeah, but, yeah, I do a width and I’m a bit tuckered out.
943
00:31:49,040 –> 00:31:51,040
I have a little sit on the side.
944
00:31:51,040 –> 00:31:53,040
Oh, that Jacuzzi looks quite nice over there.
945
00:31:53,040 –> 00:31:54,040
I’ll go there.
946
00:31:54,040 –> 00:31:55,040
Yeah.
947
00:31:55,040 –> 00:32:02,040
I do think swimming is really humbling because I used to trade loads and therefore could get in and not get puffed out for a long time.
948
00:32:02,040 –> 00:32:09,040
And then we went away recently and I did a couple of lengths and I’m like, oh, very quickly lose that stamina
949
00:32:09,040 –> 00:32:11,040
and after a couple of lengths, I’m blowing out my ass.
950
00:32:11,040 –> 00:32:18,040
So, I think it, unless you do it a lot, I think it’s a necklace walk because it’s a full body workout.
951
00:32:18,040 –> 00:32:24,040
It’s, you know, it’s cardio, but using every muscle in your body at the same time, which is why they always recommend it as being a great exercise.
952
00:32:24,040 –> 00:32:25,040
Yeah, yeah.
953
00:32:25,040 –> 00:32:26,040
Because it’s tough, but good.
954
00:32:26,040 –> 00:32:27,040
And disciplined.
955
00:32:27,040 –> 00:32:31,040
You know, I could, I’m not very good at that and breathe.
956
00:32:31,040 –> 00:32:32,040
Yeah.
957
00:32:32,040 –> 00:32:33,040
Breathe now.
958
00:32:33,040 –> 00:32:35,040
How much should I leave it for or five?
959
00:32:35,040 –> 00:32:43,040
I should, I’d be doing it every single time. That’s sort of side-breathing and then I drink a load of water and then it puts me off of it.
960
00:32:43,040 –> 00:32:44,040
Maybe strong.
961
00:32:44,040 –> 00:32:46,040
Front call or fly.
962
00:32:46,040 –> 00:32:47,040
I used to complete fly.
963
00:32:47,040 –> 00:32:49,040
So, I used to look at it.
964
00:32:49,040 –> 00:32:50,040
Yeah.
965
00:32:50,040 –> 00:32:52,040
If it’s done well, I’m not sure I do do it well.
966
00:32:52,040 –> 00:32:55,040
There’s some of the I know who used to always be in the same swimming category as me.
967
00:32:55,040 –> 00:33:01,040
And every competition we went to from the ages of, like, I took that I competed from the age of like 11.
968
00:33:01,040 –> 00:33:02,040
Right.
969
00:33:02,040 –> 00:33:03,040
All the way up to mid-30s.
970
00:33:03,040 –> 00:33:04,040
Right.
971
00:33:04,040 –> 00:33:11,040
With a gap in the middle, but she was always in my age category and she was the most beautiful swimmer that,
972
00:33:11,040 –> 00:33:17,040
and whenever she would go to any competition around the country, when she got in water, everybody stopped and watched.
973
00:33:17,040 –> 00:33:18,040
Right.
974
00:33:18,040 –> 00:33:19,040
It was majestic.
975
00:33:19,040 –> 00:33:21,040
It was like a dolphin meets human.
976
00:33:21,040 –> 00:33:22,040
Right.
977
00:33:22,040 –> 00:33:25,040
And you know, you’re like, we’re doing the same stroke, but why do I not look like that?
978
00:33:25,040 –> 00:33:27,040
And she, yeah, and she always beat me.
979
00:33:27,040 –> 00:33:30,040
Like, the one year that she didn’t compete with my year and I got a medal.
980
00:33:30,040 –> 00:33:32,040
And every other time she was just always, yeah.
981
00:33:32,040 –> 00:33:33,040
Yeah.
982
00:33:33,040 –> 00:33:36,040
It was really better than me, but yeah, when people can do it well, it is so impressive.
983
00:33:36,040 –> 00:33:43,040
Yeah, it’s that sort of natural, I don’t know, I suppose, it’s that fluidity.
984
00:33:43,040 –> 00:33:44,040
Yeah.
985
00:33:44,040 –> 00:33:49,040
But I find that with people like, when I see people running and they make it look really easy, when I run, no.
986
00:33:49,040 –> 00:33:50,040
Yeah.
987
00:33:50,040 –> 00:33:51,040
And it doesn’t look like that.
988
00:33:51,040 –> 00:33:52,040
But it’s the same thing.
989
00:33:52,040 –> 00:33:55,040
We’re both putting one leg in front of the other, so why don’t I look exactly like that?
990
00:33:55,040 –> 00:33:58,040
When my husband, Matt, he’s very tall, very long, natural runner.
991
00:33:58,040 –> 00:34:04,040
We did the Brighton Marathon together years ago and I’m not a runner, it’s not something I enjoy, but I just wanted to have done a marathon.
992
00:34:04,040 –> 00:34:05,040
Yeah.
993
00:34:05,040 –> 00:34:06,040
And for the first three miles, bless him.
994
00:34:06,040 –> 00:34:09,040
He stayed with me, he sort of matched my pace.
995
00:34:09,040 –> 00:34:10,040
Yeah.
996
00:34:10,040 –> 00:34:13,040
And then after a couple of miles, I sort of looked at him and I was like, go on then.
997
00:34:13,040 –> 00:34:17,040
And he sort of like opened up his gate, like he’s like the BFG.
998
00:34:17,040 –> 00:34:22,040
Yeah, just he strides, like one of his strides is like three of my plottons.
999
00:34:22,040 –> 00:34:23,040
Yeah.
1000
00:34:23,040 –> 00:34:25,040
And he took off like a spring ball.
1001
00:34:25,040 –> 00:34:26,040
Yeah.
1002
00:34:26,040 –> 00:34:31,040
And then he took off for 26.4 miles, and he just opened up and he was gone.
1003
00:34:31,040 –> 00:34:35,040
I was like, I suppose, is that it, then physiology, do you think?
1004
00:34:35,040 –> 00:34:36,040
I think so, definitely.
1005
00:34:36,040 –> 00:34:38,040
And also how much you do it.
1006
00:34:38,040 –> 00:34:39,040
Yeah.
1007
00:34:39,040 –> 00:34:41,040
There was practice.
1008
00:34:41,040 –> 00:34:45,040
And you enjoyed, so when you competed, was that sort of nationwide, did you go?
1009
00:34:45,040 –> 00:34:48,040
Yeah, I mean, I was never that committed.
1010
00:34:48,040 –> 00:34:51,040
There was people who used to do nationals and I never got to nationals.
1011
00:34:51,040 –> 00:34:53,040
I used to do counties.
1012
00:34:53,040 –> 00:34:54,040
Okay.
1013
00:34:54,040 –> 00:34:57,040
So was that getting up at five in the morning, going training before school?
1014
00:34:57,040 –> 00:34:59,040
That’s what it should have been.
1015
00:34:59,040 –> 00:35:00,040
I did it for a while.
1016
00:35:00,040 –> 00:35:02,040
And then I would only train twice a week.
1017
00:35:02,040 –> 00:35:03,040
Right.
1018
00:35:03,040 –> 00:35:07,040
The people who took it really seriously would do three or four mornings before school.
1019
00:35:07,040 –> 00:35:09,040
And then the same training sessions in the after school.
1020
00:35:09,040 –> 00:35:14,040
I just, I was into boys, so I didn’t really like took too much time, you know?
1021
00:35:14,040 –> 00:35:15,040
Yeah.
1022
00:35:15,040 –> 00:35:18,040
But it was definitely, definitely my sport.
1023
00:35:18,040 –> 00:35:19,040
Yeah.
1024
00:35:19,040 –> 00:35:20,040
But I was just never that committed.
1025
00:35:20,040 –> 00:35:22,040
That’s the difference, isn’t it?
1026
00:35:22,040 –> 00:35:23,040
Yeah.
1027
00:35:23,040 –> 00:35:28,040
Yeah, I suppose it is, but and the love of it.
1028
00:35:28,040 –> 00:35:29,040
Yeah.
1029
00:35:29,040 –> 00:35:30,040
Sometimes you can really like something.
1030
00:35:30,040 –> 00:35:31,040
Yeah.
1031
00:35:31,040 –> 00:35:32,040
Go, yeah, enjoy doing this.
1032
00:35:32,040 –> 00:35:34,040
And then sometimes you go, actually, I love this.
1033
00:35:34,040 –> 00:35:35,040
Yeah.
1034
00:35:35,040 –> 00:35:36,040
And I don’t want to do anything else.
1035
00:35:36,040 –> 00:35:37,040
Yeah.
1036
00:35:37,040 –> 00:35:38,040
I never reached that point.
1037
00:35:38,040 –> 00:35:43,040
I think a lot of mine was driven by the fact that my coach from the age of four, a guy called Ted,
1038
00:35:43,040 –> 00:35:45,040
he was the same coach until I was 34.
1039
00:35:45,040 –> 00:35:46,040
Right.
1040
00:35:46,040 –> 00:35:48,040
And so when he retired, I was like, do you know what?
1041
00:35:48,040 –> 00:35:49,040
It was, it was him.
1042
00:35:49,040 –> 00:35:50,040
Yeah.
1043
00:35:50,040 –> 00:35:51,040
That was the driver.
1044
00:35:51,040 –> 00:35:53,040
And when he retired, I retired.
1045
00:35:53,040 –> 00:35:54,040
I retired.
1046
00:35:54,040 –> 00:35:55,040
I retired.
1047
00:35:55,040 –> 00:35:56,040
I retired.
1048
00:35:56,040 –> 00:35:57,040
I retired.
1049
00:35:57,040 –> 00:35:58,040
I retired.
1050
00:35:58,040 –> 00:35:59,040
I retired.
1051
00:35:59,040 –> 00:36:00,040
I retired.
1052
00:36:00,040 –> 00:36:01,040
I retired.
1053
00:36:01,040 –> 00:36:02,040
I retired.
1054
00:36:02,040 –> 00:36:03,040
I retired.
1055
00:36:03,040 –> 00:36:04,040
I retired.
1056
00:36:04,040 –> 00:36:05,040
I retired.
1057
00:36:05,040 –> 00:36:06,040
I retired.
1058
00:36:06,040 –> 00:36:07,040
I retired.
1059
00:36:07,040 –> 00:36:07,040
I retired.
1060
00:36:07,040 –> 00:36:08,040
I retired.
1061
00:36:08,040 –> 00:36:09,040
I retired.
1062
00:36:09,040 –> 00:36:10,040
I retired.
1063
00:36:10,040 –> 00:36:11,040
I retired.
1064
00:36:11,040 –> 00:36:12,040
But, yeah, I think, yeah, it’s whether it’s a vocation or a passion.
1065
00:36:12,040 –> 00:36:13,040
Yeah.
1066
00:36:13,040 –> 00:36:14,040
And it was the passion.
1067
00:36:14,040 –> 00:36:15,040
Yeah.
1068
00:36:15,040 –> 00:36:16,040
That was sinkley word, yeah.
1069
00:36:16,040 –> 00:36:17,040
Well done.
1070
00:36:17,040 –> 00:36:20,040
Once again, showing, showing why you are the professional journalist.
1071
00:36:20,040 –> 00:36:21,040
Yeah.
1072
00:36:21,040 –> 00:36:22,040
You’ve heard about the shirt that we’re doing for you.
1073
00:36:22,040 –> 00:36:23,040
You’ve heard about it.
1074
00:36:23,040 –> 00:36:24,040
Yeah.
1075
00:36:24,040 –> 00:36:25,040
You’ve heard about it.
1076
00:36:25,040 –> 00:36:27,040
Actually, it’s a little bit different because this is a linen.
1077
00:36:27,040 –> 00:36:28,040
Yeah.
1078
00:36:28,040 –> 00:36:29,040
This is, I think, in the podcast.
1079
00:36:29,040 –> 00:36:31,040
This is our first linen, isn’t it?
1080
00:36:31,040 –> 00:36:32,040
Oh, good.
1081
00:36:32,040 –> 00:36:33,040
Oh, good.
1082
00:36:33,040 –> 00:36:34,040
Okay.
1083
00:36:34,040 –> 00:36:35,040
You’re breaking the mold.
1084
00:36:35,040 –> 00:36:36,040
Yes.
1085
00:36:36,040 –> 00:36:39,040
Well, I don’t have formal wear on any real need for formal wear.
1086
00:36:39,040 –> 00:36:40,040
Yeah.
1087
00:36:40,040 –> 00:36:44,040
And therefore, linen shirts, that’s the vibe, I think.
1088
00:36:44,040 –> 00:36:45,040
Yeah.
1089
00:36:45,040 –> 00:36:46,040
I’m excited to see.
1090
00:36:46,040 –> 00:36:47,040
Yeah.
1091
00:36:47,040 –> 00:36:49,040
And did you enjoy the process of doing it?
1092
00:36:49,040 –> 00:36:49,040
Yeah.
1093
00:36:49,040 –> 00:36:50,040
Yeah.
1094
00:36:50,040 –> 00:36:51,040
It’s interesting.
1095
00:36:51,040 –> 00:36:53,040
It sounds very obvious.
1096
00:36:53,040 –> 00:36:54,040
It’s sat here in a tailor’s shop.
1097
00:36:54,040 –> 00:36:59,040
But the process of going out and buying clothes, you never break it down into the components.
1098
00:36:59,040 –> 00:37:00,040
Yeah.
1099
00:37:00,040 –> 00:37:03,040
And obviously going through the components of the, you know, the cuff, the sleeve, the this,
1100
00:37:03,040 –> 00:37:04,040
the that.
1101
00:37:04,040 –> 00:37:05,040
Yeah.
1102
00:37:05,040 –> 00:37:06,040
And like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
1103
00:37:06,040 –> 00:37:07,040
Yeah.
1104
00:37:07,040 –> 00:37:11,040
Whereas when you go to a shop and buy something off the shelf, you don’t ever look at it in that context.
1105
00:37:11,040 –> 00:37:12,040
No.
1106
00:37:12,040 –> 00:37:13,040
It’s funny, actually.
1107
00:37:13,040 –> 00:37:20,040
So, that’s something I say to customers here. It’s like it buying a tailored garment is about
1108
00:37:20,040 –> 00:37:25,040
the building up the relationship, you know, to the person who’s tailoring it for you, but also
1109
00:37:25,040 –> 00:37:29,040
to the garment itself, buying something from a clothes shop is a transaction.
1110
00:37:29,040 –> 00:37:31,040
And there are different things.
1111
00:37:31,040 –> 00:37:36,040
You know, you’re looking for the choice that’s there and going, that suits me.
1112
00:37:36,040 –> 00:37:39,040
That’s as close to what I can get that’s in my head.
1113
00:37:39,040 –> 00:37:40,040
Yeah.
1114
00:37:40,040 –> 00:37:41,040
And I’ve just gone by it.
1115
00:37:41,040 –> 00:37:48,040
Yeah, there is no relationship to, or even having to think beyond the, what choice is there,
1116
00:37:48,040 –> 00:37:54,040
you know, like you’re choosing from a preset menu and you might not sort of, you know, quite
1117
00:37:54,040 –> 00:37:55,040
want that for dinner.
1118
00:37:55,040 –> 00:37:59,040
You might want this bit, you know, most potatoes instead of chips, you know.
1119
00:37:59,040 –> 00:38:00,040
Yeah.
1120
00:38:00,040 –> 00:38:05,040
I think it’s a real, but it’s like a real privilege to have something made for you like that.
1121
00:38:05,040 –> 00:38:09,040
Like I think not saying, I just think it’s a, it’s a luxury, not a luxury.
1122
00:38:09,040 –> 00:38:11,040
I mean, you think all the wrong adjectives are there.
1123
00:38:11,040 –> 00:38:12,040
No, but you’re right.
1124
00:38:12,040 –> 00:38:17,040
You know, like that’s a lovely experience to have something that you know is made for you,
1125
00:38:17,040 –> 00:38:19,040
which is not commonplace.
1126
00:38:19,040 –> 00:38:20,040
Yeah.
1127
00:38:20,040 –> 00:38:21,040
That’s not your everyday on the whole, is it?
1128
00:38:21,040 –> 00:38:22,040
I wish it was.
1129
00:38:22,040 –> 00:38:23,040
Yeah.
1130
00:38:23,040 –> 00:38:24,040
I wish it was.
1131
00:38:24,040 –> 00:38:25,040
Yeah.
1132
00:38:25,040 –> 00:38:26,040
But it’s not.
1133
00:38:26,040 –> 00:38:27,040
So it’s, yeah, it was a lovely experience to kind of go through.
1134
00:38:27,040 –> 00:38:29,040
It’s a bit like a house.
1135
00:38:29,040 –> 00:38:30,040
A house.
1136
00:38:30,040 –> 00:38:31,040
Yeah.
1137
00:38:31,040 –> 00:38:32,040
A little waste of your issue.
1138
00:38:32,040 –> 00:38:33,040
Yeah, there we are.
1139
00:38:33,040 –> 00:38:34,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s it.
1140
00:38:34,040 –> 00:38:39,040
It’s a way, and it is like a house, isn’t it? You know, you’re building your own property,
1141
00:38:39,040 –> 00:38:41,040
which is how you want it to be.
1142
00:38:41,040 –> 00:38:42,040
Yeah, exactly.
1143
00:38:42,040 –> 00:38:44,040
You know, and you’ve got to consider everything.
1144
00:38:44,040 –> 00:38:48,040
And, you know, sometimes there might be a compromise because of cost price, you know,
1145
00:38:48,040 –> 00:38:49,040
same Italian, really.
1146
00:38:49,040 –> 00:38:50,040
Yeah.
1147
00:38:50,040 –> 00:38:54,040
You know, but the most, as we were saying before, we started recording the most expensive thing,
1148
00:38:54,040 –> 00:38:56,040
might not be the right thing for you.
1149
00:38:56,040 –> 00:38:57,040
Yeah.
1150
00:38:57,040 –> 00:38:58,040
You know, what do you want it for?
1151
00:38:58,040 –> 00:38:59,040
How often are you going to wear it?
1152
00:38:59,040 –> 00:39:00,040
Yeah.
1153
00:39:00,040 –> 00:39:03,040
And, you know, how hard wearing do you need it to be?
1154
00:39:03,040 –> 00:39:10,040
You know, if you’re building a house factory and in family life is a lot different to building
1155
00:39:10,040 –> 00:39:14,040
a house if you’re, you know, just a person living on your own or a couple, you’ve got factory
1156
00:39:14,040 –> 00:39:15,040
and pets or kids or this.
1157
00:39:15,040 –> 00:39:16,040
Yeah.
1158
00:39:16,040 –> 00:39:18,040
You know, you’ve requirements for it a different way.
1159
00:39:18,040 –> 00:39:24,040
And then, like you say, layering in that budget, you know, if your budget was endless, would
1160
00:39:24,040 –> 00:39:25,040
I be digging my own trenches?
1161
00:39:25,040 –> 00:39:26,040
Absolutely.
1162
00:39:26,040 –> 00:39:27,040
I know why I wouldn’t.
1163
00:39:27,040 –> 00:39:30,040
So, it’s all about that push and pull, isn’t it?
1164
00:39:30,040 –> 00:39:31,040
Yeah.
1165
00:39:31,040 –> 00:39:33,040
And then, you know, you need versus what you can do.
1166
00:39:33,040 –> 00:39:34,040
Yeah.
1167
00:39:34,040 –> 00:39:35,040
Yeah, it is.
1168
00:39:35,040 –> 00:39:37,040
And I think, I think, tailoring is good, like, it’s good.
1169
00:39:37,040 –> 00:39:38,040
Yeah.
1170
00:39:38,040 –> 00:39:40,040
So, if you’d never had anything made for you before?
1171
00:39:40,040 –> 00:39:41,040
No.
1172
00:39:41,040 –> 00:39:42,040
Apart from our wedding dress.
1173
00:39:42,040 –> 00:39:43,040
Right.
1174
00:39:43,040 –> 00:39:44,040
Okay.
1175
00:39:44,040 –> 00:39:47,040
Which I sort of designed on the back of thatkin, because I couldn’t find anything that I liked
1176
00:39:47,040 –> 00:39:53,040
and thought that it was all too fussy and too expensive, frankly, for something I’d wear
1177
00:39:53,040 –> 00:39:54,040
once.
1178
00:39:54,040 –> 00:39:55,040
Yeah.
1179
00:39:55,040 –> 00:39:59,040
So, yeah, I had an idea in my head of what I wanted the shape to be and then I took it to
1180
00:39:59,040 –> 00:40:00,040
a woman who made it.
1181
00:40:00,040 –> 00:40:01,040
Yeah.
1182
00:40:01,040 –> 00:40:03,040
So, that’s the only piece that I’ve ever had made for me.
1183
00:40:03,040 –> 00:40:04,040
Yeah.
1184
00:40:04,040 –> 00:40:05,040
A great piece I’ve made, though.
1185
00:40:05,040 –> 00:40:06,040
Yeah, it was.
1186
00:40:06,040 –> 00:40:11,120
And infinitely, you ended up being infinitely cheaper than buying something that somebody else
1187
00:40:11,120 –> 00:40:14,040
has designed, but then you need to tailor it to you.
1188
00:40:14,040 –> 00:40:15,040
Yeah.
1189
00:40:15,040 –> 00:40:16,040
So, yeah.
1190
00:40:16,040 –> 00:40:17,040
It’s funny.
1191
00:40:17,040 –> 00:40:21,640
I think one of the things that she, I’ll be interested in your views on this, if you went,
1192
00:40:21,640 –> 00:40:22,640
did you go wedding dress shopping?
1193
00:40:22,640 –> 00:40:23,640
Yeah.
1194
00:40:23,640 –> 00:40:24,640
Did you go and have a look?
1195
00:40:24,640 –> 00:40:25,640
I hated it, yeah.
1196
00:40:25,640 –> 00:40:32,640
I think a lot of what the wedding, the bride’s market is about is about selling that experience
1197
00:40:32,640 –> 00:40:35,640
rather than the dress itself.
1198
00:40:35,640 –> 00:40:36,640
Yeah.
1199
00:40:36,640 –> 00:40:39,720
You know, it’s about, oh, you need to go looking for your perfect dress.
1200
00:40:39,720 –> 00:40:42,480
The perfect dress is out there somewhere and you can find it.
1201
00:40:42,480 –> 00:40:43,480
Yeah.
1202
00:40:43,480 –> 00:40:45,840
You just got to go to this place and sit down and have a glass of champagne and blah, blah, blah.
1203
00:40:45,840 –> 00:40:51,400
And it should be a lovely experience, but it’s about the search rather than about the,
1204
00:40:51,400 –> 00:40:52,400
the what you want.
1205
00:40:52,400 –> 00:40:53,400
Yeah.
1206
00:40:53,400 –> 00:40:55,400
You know, it’s about sort of matching.
1207
00:40:55,400 –> 00:40:56,400
Yeah.
1208
00:40:56,400 –> 00:41:00,400
It’s about the self to something that’s there, which I think, I think the groom side of things
1209
00:41:00,400 –> 00:41:03,400
gets, is a slightly better deal from that point of the day.
1210
00:41:03,400 –> 00:41:04,400
I totally agree.
1211
00:41:04,400 –> 00:41:08,840
I think men can go into it knowing, because quite often men wear suits at some point in their
1212
00:41:08,840 –> 00:41:09,840
life.
1213
00:41:09,840 –> 00:41:10,840
Yeah.
1214
00:41:10,840 –> 00:41:11,840
So, they have an understanding of what they like in a suit.
1215
00:41:11,840 –> 00:41:12,840
Yeah.
1216
00:41:12,840 –> 00:41:16,480
And then that’s their opportunity to go and be like, you know, I know I like this style and
1217
00:41:16,480 –> 00:41:20,880
I’d like it in this colour and I think it’s probably a bit more, if they’re into it,
1218
00:41:20,880 –> 00:41:21,880
a bit more fun.
1219
00:41:21,880 –> 00:41:23,800
Whereas I found shopping for a wedding dress.
1220
00:41:23,800 –> 00:41:24,800
I honestly hated it.
1221
00:41:24,800 –> 00:41:30,640
Like, at the expectation put upon you to have a moment where you cry and everyone’s like,
1222
00:41:30,640 –> 00:41:31,640
oh, it’s red, isn’t it?
1223
00:41:31,640 –> 00:41:32,640
You know what I’m saying?
1224
00:41:32,640 –> 00:41:33,640
Never had that.
1225
00:41:33,640 –> 00:41:34,640
Never had that.
1226
00:41:34,640 –> 00:41:38,880
And if I was called Princess one more time, I tell you, we’re going above shirtty now.
1227
00:41:38,880 –> 00:41:39,880
I’m like, but, he’s off.
1228
00:41:39,880 –> 00:41:40,880
Gone, gone.
1229
00:41:40,880 –> 00:41:41,880
I’m a full grown woman.
1230
00:41:41,880 –> 00:41:42,880
Gone it out, gone it out.
1231
00:41:42,880 –> 00:41:43,880
So you’re not calling me a Princess?
1232
00:41:43,880 –> 00:41:44,880
No.
1233
00:41:44,880 –> 00:41:45,880
Yeah.
1234
00:41:45,880 –> 00:41:48,880
And also Princess for £3,000.
1235
00:41:48,880 –> 00:41:49,880
Like, just jargon.
1236
00:41:49,880 –> 00:41:50,880
Oh, really?
1237
00:41:50,880 –> 00:41:54,800
No, some people absolutely loved it, but I felt like I was playing dress up.
1238
00:41:54,800 –> 00:41:57,400
Nothing felt authentic to me.
1239
00:41:57,400 –> 00:42:01,960
Like, why do I need to lose every sense of my personal style because it’s my wedding
1240
00:42:01,960 –> 00:42:02,960
day?
1241
00:42:02,960 –> 00:42:09,560
I would never wear a beaded chiffon, so why am I suddenly wearing it on this day?
1242
00:42:09,560 –> 00:42:13,440
And it felt really inauthentic to me.
1243
00:42:13,440 –> 00:42:17,440
And therefore, yeah, it felt, you know, I hated it, I hated it.
1244
00:42:17,440 –> 00:42:18,440
And that’s why we went down this.
1245
00:42:18,440 –> 00:42:20,520
People were like, it’s a dress.
1246
00:42:20,520 –> 00:42:22,200
Let’s take it back to what it is.
1247
00:42:22,200 –> 00:42:23,200
It’s a dress.
1248
00:42:23,200 –> 00:42:27,120
So I just went to Harvey Knicks, I think, and tried on loads of dresses.
1249
00:42:27,120 –> 00:42:28,120
Just dresses, not wedding dresses.
1250
00:42:28,120 –> 00:42:30,160
And I was like, what shapes do I like?
1251
00:42:30,160 –> 00:42:31,160
Yeah.
1252
00:42:31,160 –> 00:42:32,160
And what fits do I like?
1253
00:42:32,160 –> 00:42:33,160
And just made a mental note of that.
1254
00:42:33,160 –> 00:42:36,440
And then went home, I was like, okay, I want it nipped in here, I want it out here.
1255
00:42:36,440 –> 00:42:39,040
And then bought some cheap material and had it made.
1256
00:42:39,040 –> 00:42:40,040
Yeah.
1257
00:42:40,040 –> 00:42:43,320
Because that felt way more me than having something else.
1258
00:42:43,320 –> 00:42:45,080
Yeah, that I would never normally wear.
1259
00:42:45,080 –> 00:42:46,080
Yeah.
1260
00:42:46,080 –> 00:42:51,520
And then there’s a funny thing too, and I find this a lot talking to, you know, the sort
1261
00:42:51,520 –> 00:42:57,480
of future couples, future married couples here is that, and I felt it, as well getting married,
1262
00:42:57,480 –> 00:43:05,560
and it’s, there is a certain amount of conformity to the experience should be this.
1263
00:43:05,560 –> 00:43:08,360
And these people should always be invited.
1264
00:43:08,360 –> 00:43:13,120
And you’ve got to have this, you know, it’s like, there’s a tick box thing that you’ve got
1265
00:43:13,120 –> 00:43:24,920
to go through and, all right, so now it’s time for the, okay.
1266
00:43:24,920 –> 00:43:30,640
Steve, would you like me to go through the explanation?
1267
00:43:30,640 –> 00:43:34,040
So do you want a short one?
1268
00:43:34,040 –> 00:43:35,520
Steve likes the long explanation.
1269
00:43:35,520 –> 00:43:43,040
So this hat, so we had the idea of having off the cuff question.
1270
00:43:43,040 –> 00:43:48,160
Ha ha, look, there’s a great pun off the cuff and it works, you know, so you don’t know
1271
00:43:48,160 –> 00:43:49,880
what this get shirt is going to be about.
1272
00:43:49,880 –> 00:43:51,120
Oh God, the pressure.
1273
00:43:51,120 –> 00:43:57,440
But then we were like, we’ve got all the options, all the different things, they off the cuff
1274
00:43:57,440 –> 00:44:03,320
questions, but how do we get those to the person who’s, who’s got to pick one?
1275
00:44:03,320 –> 00:44:04,320
Yeah.
1276
00:44:04,320 –> 00:44:07,600
Well, we’ll put them in there, bowl of hat, that would be great, but then it doesn’t work
1277
00:44:07,600 –> 00:44:10,960
with the pun anymore because they’re out of hat.
1278
00:44:10,960 –> 00:44:15,920
And Buckston said when, because he was the first person we did it with and we just quickly
1279
00:44:15,920 –> 00:44:19,120
put them in a hat, he said, well, you could pin them to a shirt cuff.
1280
00:44:19,120 –> 00:44:24,280
That didn’t feel right, but it works with, because they’re off the cuff, but we were like,
1281
00:44:24,280 –> 00:44:28,440
now we put them in the bowl of hat and it became such a thing talking to him about it and
1282
00:44:28,440 –> 00:44:33,760
every podcast since then, I’ve had to do this explanation is to why they’re in a hat.
1283
00:44:33,760 –> 00:44:38,000
Sam once said, the explanation drops, she likes the explanation because it comes out different
1284
00:44:38,000 –> 00:44:39,000
every time.
1285
00:44:39,000 –> 00:44:44,080
So, off the cuff, hatty cuff, out of a hatty cuff question.
1286
00:44:44,080 –> 00:44:46,280
Hatty cuff question, sure, rolls off the top.
1287
00:44:46,280 –> 00:44:54,560
So, feel free to, we’ve had lots of different theories actually, Alex, yeah, what, yeah.
1288
00:44:54,560 –> 00:44:56,560
Off the teddy bears.
1289
00:44:56,560 –> 00:44:59,600
Yeah, yeah, and what did Alex Hall say?
1290
00:44:59,600 –> 00:45:02,400
He came up with a few, didn’t he?
1291
00:45:02,400 –> 00:45:04,840
Collard, you’ve been collard or something and there was a, so.
1292
00:45:04,840 –> 00:45:08,120
I love that, it’s a few that have said to me, it’s an off the cuff question and had to
1293
00:45:08,120 –> 00:45:09,760
be a bowl of hat, I would not question it.
1294
00:45:09,760 –> 00:45:11,760
Questioned it, or thought about it.
1295
00:45:11,760 –> 00:45:14,440
No, and probably most people would know.
1296
00:45:14,440 –> 00:45:15,440
No, probably not.
1297
00:45:15,440 –> 00:45:17,440
But, here we are.
1298
00:45:17,440 –> 00:45:18,440
Here we are.
1299
00:45:18,440 –> 00:45:20,640
Yeah, so go for it, let’s.
1300
00:45:20,640 –> 00:45:21,640
Okay.
1301
00:45:21,640 –> 00:45:23,560
The hatty cuff question.
1302
00:45:23,560 –> 00:45:24,560
Off the cuff.
1303
00:45:24,560 –> 00:45:25,560
Oh, chores.
1304
00:45:25,560 –> 00:45:26,560
Chores, alright.
1305
00:45:26,560 –> 00:45:28,960
Okay, so what gets me sure to be about chores?
1306
00:45:28,960 –> 00:45:29,960
Yeah, yeah.
1307
00:45:29,960 –> 00:45:34,760
Okay, I’d like to preface this by saying, I love my husband very much.
1308
00:45:34,760 –> 00:45:47,200
We love your husband, he’s a lovely chap.
1309
00:45:47,200 –> 00:45:52,480
But, he’s very good at chores, though, there is no beef there.
1310
00:45:52,480 –> 00:45:56,840
What my beef is is how he does the chores versus how I do the chores.
1311
00:45:56,840 –> 00:46:04,280
And the example of this is, and this is again, like really nichey, but when we fold, like
1312
00:46:04,280 –> 00:46:08,960
I have all the kids school clothes, like, what roll out drawer.
1313
00:46:08,960 –> 00:46:12,560
Do you know, I was about to say, I’ve got a prediction as to what this is.
1314
00:46:12,560 –> 00:46:13,560
Okay.
1315
00:46:13,560 –> 00:46:16,960
And, I had it in my head, I nearly wrote it on a piece of, yeah, it was one of my magic
1316
00:46:16,960 –> 00:46:17,960
trick when you go hit your-
1317
00:46:17,960 –> 00:46:19,560
And I was gone, and this is what it is.
1318
00:46:19,560 –> 00:46:20,560
Okay.
1319
00:46:20,560 –> 00:46:23,480
And I, I know, you started it now, but I know exactly what you’ve been saying.
1320
00:46:23,480 –> 00:46:28,280
So, in it, I have everything in very organised piles, like these are the PET shirts, these
1321
00:46:28,280 –> 00:46:34,000
are the day t-shirts, one kids jumpers, girls cardigans, you know, everything, so that when
1322
00:46:34,000 –> 00:46:37,640
we roll it in the morning, it’s like, bish, bosh, bosh, like I do it really quickly.
1323
00:46:37,640 –> 00:46:42,680
And then, on the days that Matt has decided to put away the washing, it is, I mean, it’s
1324
00:46:42,680 –> 00:46:47,520
like there’s been a tornado, and it’s just been shoved in the box and shoved back under.
1325
00:46:47,520 –> 00:46:52,120
So, when you pull it out, it’s just kale, so there is no order to this, I can’t do it quickly.
1326
00:46:52,120 –> 00:46:54,920
And it is, it boils my piss, there’s no other way.
1327
00:46:54,920 –> 00:46:58,160
Like I say, we’ve gone beyond shirty and it boils my piss.
1328
00:46:58,160 –> 00:47:00,080
It is pure fucking rage, yeah.
1329
00:47:00,080 –> 00:47:03,960
Pure rage, because if I, great that you do chores, and he is
1330
00:47:03,960 –> 00:47:06,440
great at doing chores, and it’s not a thing where he goes, what chores shall I do?
1331
00:47:06,440 –> 00:47:09,720
Like he is a self-serving man, perfect.
1332
00:47:09,720 –> 00:47:14,040
But there is just certain blips, certain blind spots where it’s like, if you do it shit,
1333
00:47:14,040 –> 00:47:15,040
I’d rather you do it.
1334
00:47:15,040 –> 00:47:16,040
Didn’t do it.
1335
00:47:16,040 –> 00:47:19,040
But then, the phrase I keep saying is weaponising competence.
1336
00:47:19,040 –> 00:47:21,040
No, you don’t get away with that, just do it better.
1337
00:47:21,040 –> 00:47:22,040
Just do it better.
1338
00:47:22,040 –> 00:47:26,840
And that is my get shirty/get shirty chore of the calf.
1339
00:47:26,840 –> 00:47:28,840
Is that where you were going?
1340
00:47:28,840 –> 00:47:32,840
Yeah, before you even start, you said your chores, and when you went, I love my husband
1341
00:47:32,840 –> 00:47:37,160
very much, in my head I went and it’s folding motion.
1342
00:47:37,160 –> 00:47:39,160
Because I’m not allowed to fold washing.
1343
00:47:39,160 –> 00:47:40,160
Are you not?
1344
00:47:40,160 –> 00:47:41,160
No.
1345
00:47:41,160 –> 00:47:42,920
Why can’t you just fold it better?
1346
00:47:42,920 –> 00:47:45,160
You must fold all the time, you’re a tailor.
1347
00:47:45,160 –> 00:47:46,160
Yeah.
1348
00:47:46,160 –> 00:47:49,160
But I fold it the way I like it folded.
1349
00:47:49,160 –> 00:47:50,160
Okay.
1350
00:47:50,160 –> 00:47:52,160
Which is not the right way to fold it.
1351
00:47:52,160 –> 00:47:54,520
Oh, okay, well that’s, okay, that’s just a different style.
1352
00:47:54,520 –> 00:47:59,480
It might be slightly shitter, way of folding it.
1353
00:47:59,480 –> 00:48:02,640
But I think it’s more efficient and equally as good.
1354
00:48:02,640 –> 00:48:03,640
Okay.
1355
00:48:03,640 –> 00:48:04,640
But I’m not as organised with it.
1356
00:48:04,640 –> 00:48:09,240
Yeah, it’s the organisation, but I don’t care about neat folds, just there’s obvious piles,
1357
00:48:09,240 –> 00:48:11,480
let’s follow the system, please.
1358
00:48:11,480 –> 00:48:12,480
Yeah.
1359
00:48:12,480 –> 00:48:13,480
Etica.
1360
00:48:13,480 –> 00:48:14,480
Etica.
1361
00:48:14,480 –> 00:48:15,480
Stay in the right lane.
1362
00:48:15,480 –> 00:48:16,480
Etica.
1363
00:48:16,480 –> 00:48:17,480
I know, right lane.
1364
00:48:17,480 –> 00:48:21,480
I sound very straight and like, highly strained, don’t I?
1365
00:48:21,480 –> 00:48:22,480
Oh, God.
1366
00:48:22,480 –> 00:48:24,480
You leave from the washing.
1367
00:48:24,480 –> 00:48:30,600
Yeah, it’s one of those, again, low eye, as fair, that is fair.
1368
00:48:30,600 –> 00:48:34,800
But if it would just like, I don’t like the way they look in the cupboard, and that’s
1369
00:48:34,800 –> 00:48:35,800
a different thing.
1370
00:48:35,800 –> 00:48:36,800
Yeah.
1371
00:48:36,800 –> 00:48:38,200
But if it’s mucking up your mornings.
1372
00:48:38,200 –> 00:48:39,200
Yeah, yeah.
1373
00:48:39,200 –> 00:48:43,400
People all, he’ll like my system when it’s working in his favour.
1374
00:48:43,400 –> 00:48:44,400
Yeah.
1375
00:48:44,400 –> 00:48:47,520
In the morning when we’ve got three minutes to get in the car and get school, that system
1376
00:48:47,520 –> 00:48:48,640
really comes into its own business.
1377
00:48:48,640 –> 00:48:49,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1378
00:48:49,640 –> 00:48:51,040
So let’s just to buy a system, please.
1379
00:48:51,040 –> 00:48:52,040
Yeah.
1380
00:48:52,040 –> 00:48:55,480
So, yeah, so it’s the lack of following what works.
1381
00:48:55,480 –> 00:48:56,480
Yeah.
1382
00:48:56,480 –> 00:48:57,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1383
00:48:57,480 –> 00:48:58,480
That’s fair.
1384
00:48:58,480 –> 00:49:00,480
Yeah, and I think I just fold washing badly.
1385
00:49:00,480 –> 00:49:03,400
But, in fairness, so here, I don’t have to fold anything.
1386
00:49:03,400 –> 00:49:04,400
Do you not?
1387
00:49:04,400 –> 00:49:05,400
I guess hang it.
1388
00:49:05,400 –> 00:49:06,400
I don’t know.
1389
00:49:06,400 –> 00:49:07,400
I guess hang it.
1390
00:49:07,400 –> 00:49:08,400
I guess it goes on a hang-out.
1391
00:49:08,400 –> 00:49:09,400
Yeah.
1392
00:49:09,400 –> 00:49:10,400
Goes on a mannequin.
1393
00:49:10,400 –> 00:49:11,400
True.
1394
00:49:11,400 –> 00:49:12,400
What about material?
1395
00:49:12,400 –> 00:49:13,400
Yeah, sometimes.
1396
00:49:13,400 –> 00:49:14,400
But yeah, that will go on boards and rolls.
1397
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:15,400
Okay.
1398
00:49:15,400 –> 00:49:16,400
It gets turned back on the shelf.
1399
00:49:16,400 –> 00:49:17,400
That’s bad, it.
1400
00:49:17,400 –> 00:49:20,440
So yeah, I don’t, very often have to fold things.
1401
00:49:20,440 –> 00:49:21,440
No.
1402
00:49:21,440 –> 00:49:26,320
I can imagine though, in your trade that you don’t just do the scramble up, you’re like
1403
00:49:26,320 –> 00:49:29,240
you say your system isn’t that it’s, you don’t do it, you just do it in a different
1404
00:49:29,240 –> 00:49:30,240
way.
1405
00:49:30,240 –> 00:49:32,600
I imagine you’d have a different aspect of garment in that way.
1406
00:49:32,600 –> 00:49:33,600
No.
1407
00:49:33,600 –> 00:49:34,600
No, do you know what?
1408
00:49:34,600 –> 00:49:35,600
Do you know what?
1409
00:49:35,600 –> 00:49:42,640
Never ceases to amaze me is men of a certain age who don’t know how to put trousers on a hang-out.
1410
00:49:42,640 –> 00:49:43,640
Oh, really?
1411
00:49:43,640 –> 00:49:44,640
Yeah.
1412
00:49:44,640 –> 00:49:45,640
Do I know how to put trousers on a hang-out?
1413
00:49:45,640 –> 00:49:46,640
Oh, I don’t know.
1414
00:49:46,640 –> 00:49:47,640
I’ll have to give you a hand.
1415
00:49:47,640 –> 00:49:50,840
Is it you pull the zip out forward?
1416
00:49:50,840 –> 00:49:52,480
So it’s that way rather than in half?
1417
00:49:52,480 –> 00:49:54,840
Well, I’d further zip, not being done up.
1418
00:49:54,840 –> 00:49:55,840
Yeah.
1419
00:49:55,840 –> 00:49:57,640
And the front of the trousers folded in.
1420
00:49:57,640 –> 00:49:58,640
Folded in, okay.
1421
00:49:58,640 –> 00:50:00,440
I think it keeps a line on the hanger better.
1422
00:50:00,440 –> 00:50:01,440
There we go.
1423
00:50:01,440 –> 00:50:03,440
For the benefit of the list that sounds like getting that up here at Trapeze.
1424
00:50:03,440 –> 00:50:04,440
Yeah.
1425
00:50:04,440 –> 00:50:08,920
You’ll know there’s a chap who’s never put trousers on hangers because he’ll come out and
1426
00:50:08,920 –> 00:50:12,240
go, oh, I’ve just left them on the, I’m the hanger.
1427
00:50:12,240 –> 00:50:13,240
I’ve left them on the chair through there.
1428
00:50:13,240 –> 00:50:14,240
Oh, you can.
1429
00:50:14,240 –> 00:50:15,240
Is that okay?
1430
00:50:15,240 –> 00:50:16,240
Or I’ve put them on the hook.
1431
00:50:16,240 –> 00:50:17,240
Is that okay?
1432
00:50:17,240 –> 00:50:22,040
Or they’ll put them on the hanger in a weird way.
1433
00:50:22,040 –> 00:50:23,040
Okay.
1434
00:50:23,040 –> 00:50:26,200
So this is what I’m being shown here is what I would expect to pick up from a dry
1435
00:50:26,200 –> 00:50:30,000
cleaners and I would never manufacture again myself.
1436
00:50:30,000 –> 00:50:31,000
Okay.
1437
00:50:31,000 –> 00:50:38,400
So, cuff, flat cuff to flat cuff, hang them down and then pull them through the hanger so
1438
00:50:38,400 –> 00:50:40,920
that the creases are flat.
1439
00:50:40,920 –> 00:50:41,920
Creases at the front.
1440
00:50:41,920 –> 00:50:42,920
Yeah.
1441
00:50:42,920 –> 00:50:43,920
Yeah, you see it?
1442
00:50:43,920 –> 00:50:44,920
I’d always have the creases upside.
1443
00:50:44,920 –> 00:50:45,920
Yeah, I don’t know how to do that.
1444
00:50:45,920 –> 00:50:46,920
Oh.
1445
00:50:46,920 –> 00:50:47,920
Yeah, there we are.
1446
00:50:47,920 –> 00:50:49,920
Or perhaps that’s me being overly…
1447
00:50:49,920 –> 00:50:54,240
Well, I also think the quality of the garments you’re hanging, doesn’t match the quality
1448
00:50:54,240 –> 00:50:56,000
of the garments I’m hanging at home.
1449
00:50:56,000 –> 00:50:59,200
Yeah, but if it’s a pair of jeans, you’ve been hanging a pair of jeans like that.
1450
00:50:59,200 –> 00:51:00,200
I roll my jeans.
1451
00:51:00,200 –> 00:51:02,040
Yeah, well that’s good too.
1452
00:51:02,040 –> 00:51:06,760
But if it’s got a crease pressed in the front, you want to keep that crease.
1453
00:51:06,760 –> 00:51:08,920
Yeah, I’ve never been able to do that and now I know why.
1454
00:51:08,920 –> 00:51:10,920
Well, we can show you.
1455
00:51:10,920 –> 00:51:11,920
Okay, thanks.
1456
00:51:11,920 –> 00:51:15,560
But yeah, I just thought, well, perhaps that was just, you know, even the school chairs
1457
00:51:15,560 –> 00:51:17,800
just went on a hanger like that.
1458
00:51:17,800 –> 00:51:18,800
Wow.
1459
00:51:18,800 –> 00:51:23,960
Or following that and over the back of a chair so that they stayed nice for the next day.
1460
00:51:23,960 –> 00:51:24,960
Yeah, you’re proper.
1461
00:51:24,960 –> 00:51:25,960
That’s proper.
1462
00:51:25,960 –> 00:51:26,960
Is it?
1463
00:51:26,960 –> 00:51:27,960
Yeah, that is proper.
1464
00:51:27,960 –> 00:51:29,480
Yeah, and the sun’s a bit like that.
1465
00:51:29,480 –> 00:51:31,800
Is that one of my special things?
1466
00:51:31,800 –> 00:51:32,800
Oh, right.
1467
00:51:32,800 –> 00:51:33,800
I thought you were doing that.
1468
00:51:33,800 –> 00:51:34,800
I’ve got a knowing nod.
1469
00:51:34,800 –> 00:51:35,800
Oh, yeah.
1470
00:51:35,800 –> 00:51:36,800
He likes, yeah.
1471
00:51:36,800 –> 00:51:38,320
He presses his school trousers, though.
1472
00:51:38,320 –> 00:51:39,320
Does he?
1473
00:51:39,320 –> 00:51:41,000
But he’s a tailor, some I suppose, isn’t he?
1474
00:51:41,000 –> 00:51:42,000
Yeah.
1475
00:51:42,000 –> 00:51:44,000
And polishes his school shoes.
1476
00:51:44,000 –> 00:51:45,000
Oh, wow.
1477
00:51:45,000 –> 00:51:46,000
Not nearly every night.
1478
00:51:46,000 –> 00:51:47,000
Are you kidding?
1479
00:51:47,000 –> 00:51:48,000
How would he see?
1480
00:51:48,000 –> 00:51:49,000
30s, just turned 30.
1481
00:51:49,000 –> 00:51:50,000
Wow.
1482
00:51:50,000 –> 00:51:51,000
Yeah.
1483
00:51:51,000 –> 00:51:52,000
But I respect it.
1484
00:51:52,000 –> 00:51:53,000
But he likes…
1485
00:51:53,000 –> 00:51:54,000
Proper.
1486
00:51:54,000 –> 00:51:55,000
And the process is…
1487
00:51:55,000 –> 00:51:56,000
That’s the look.
1488
00:51:56,000 –> 00:51:57,000
Yeah, likes to look…
1489
00:51:57,000 –> 00:51:58,000
Yeah.
1490
00:51:58,000 –> 00:51:59,000
Correct, I suppose.
1491
00:51:59,000 –> 00:52:00,000
Oh, I’ve got the opposite.
1492
00:52:00,000 –> 00:52:01,000
Yeah.
1493
00:52:01,000 –> 00:52:03,560
My sun wears everything inside out and back to fun, doesn’t care.
1494
00:52:03,560 –> 00:52:05,760
Yeah, but that’s good, too, because that’s sort of…
1495
00:52:05,760 –> 00:52:06,760
Yeah, it’s…
1496
00:52:06,760 –> 00:52:07,760
It was what…
1497
00:52:07,760 –> 00:52:08,760
It’s the same.
1498
00:52:08,760 –> 00:52:09,760
It’s what…
1499
00:52:09,760 –> 00:52:11,280
Or wearing any clothes is what you feel…
1500
00:52:11,280 –> 00:52:12,280
Yes.
1501
00:52:12,280 –> 00:52:13,280
Right in.
1502
00:52:13,280 –> 00:52:14,280
You know?
1503
00:52:14,280 –> 00:52:15,280
Yes.
1504
00:52:15,280 –> 00:52:16,280
You know?
1505
00:52:16,280 –> 00:52:17,280
There is…
1506
00:52:17,280 –> 00:52:18,280
I think Tailoring can be a little bit wrong in writing, you know?
1507
00:52:18,280 –> 00:52:19,280
Yeah.
1508
00:52:19,280 –> 00:52:20,280
You shouldn’t do this.
1509
00:52:20,280 –> 00:52:22,520
And only have to do the top button, then never do the bottom button up on a waistcoat
1510
00:52:22,520 –> 00:52:23,520
and all these sorts of things.
1511
00:52:23,520 –> 00:52:26,080
And there is a place for that if that’s what you like.
1512
00:52:26,080 –> 00:52:27,080
Yes.
1513
00:52:27,080 –> 00:52:28,080
If you’re…
1514
00:52:28,080 –> 00:52:33,440
If it suits you to want to conform in those ways to style, that’s great.
1515
00:52:33,440 –> 00:52:37,640
But style and fashion, they’re different things and find your own style, find your own
1516
00:52:37,640 –> 00:52:39,320
style, then it can be whatever you like.
1517
00:52:39,320 –> 00:52:41,360
Where it inside out, back to fun, that’s great.
1518
00:52:41,360 –> 00:52:43,560
If that’s how you feel best in it.
1519
00:52:43,560 –> 00:52:44,560
That’s the best day, but…
1520
00:52:44,560 –> 00:52:46,360
Yeah, I like that.
1521
00:52:46,360 –> 00:52:48,560
So, yeah, so there you go.
1522
00:52:48,560 –> 00:52:49,560
But yeah, so…
1523
00:52:49,560 –> 00:52:50,560
Yeah, chores…
1524
00:52:50,560 –> 00:52:51,560
That was a good one.
1525
00:52:51,560 –> 00:52:52,560
Okay.
1526
00:52:52,560 –> 00:52:53,560
That was a good one.
1527
00:52:53,560 –> 00:52:54,560
Oh, yeah, no problem.
1528
00:52:54,560 –> 00:52:55,560
I don’t know.
1529
00:52:55,560 –> 00:52:57,560
I always sort of sit like I judge on these things.
1530
00:52:57,560 –> 00:52:58,560
I go, “Yes, that’s right.
1531
00:52:58,560 –> 00:53:00,800
You’re allowed that one, and you’re not allowed this one.”
1532
00:53:00,800 –> 00:53:01,800
But, you know…
1533
00:53:01,800 –> 00:53:04,960
But that’s definitely one I’ll agree with.
1534
00:53:04,960 –> 00:53:05,960
Okay.
1535
00:53:05,960 –> 00:53:09,320
I will put my hand up and say, “I am this sock pair, though.”
1536
00:53:09,320 –> 00:53:10,320
Oh, yeah.
1537
00:53:10,320 –> 00:53:12,920
“I am the person who is in charge of pairing socks.”
1538
00:53:12,920 –> 00:53:13,920
Do you know what my mum did?
1539
00:53:13,920 –> 00:53:15,240
So, I come from a big family.
1540
00:53:15,240 –> 00:53:17,440
I’m one of four kids.
1541
00:53:17,440 –> 00:53:18,440
And my mum…
1542
00:53:18,440 –> 00:53:20,360
I can’t remember what age we all were.
1543
00:53:20,360 –> 00:53:22,680
But definitely, like, beginning secondary school.
1544
00:53:22,680 –> 00:53:25,320
So, you know, 10, 11, 12, 13, age.
1545
00:53:25,320 –> 00:53:27,320
She got rid of all the socks in the house.
1546
00:53:27,320 –> 00:53:28,320
Yeah.
1547
00:53:28,320 –> 00:53:29,840
And bought, like, 20, probably more than that.
1548
00:53:29,840 –> 00:53:32,160
40 pairs of black size eight socks.
1549
00:53:32,160 –> 00:53:33,640
And that’s all anyone in the house for…
1550
00:53:33,640 –> 00:53:34,640
I really?
1551
00:53:34,640 –> 00:53:36,320
Yeah, mum, dad, me and my three brothers.
1552
00:53:36,320 –> 00:53:38,080
Because then there was never an odd sock in the house.
1553
00:53:38,080 –> 00:53:39,080
Yeah.
1554
00:53:39,080 –> 00:53:40,080
And that’s…
1555
00:53:40,080 –> 00:53:41,080
I respect it.
1556
00:53:41,080 –> 00:53:42,080
That’s a pretty good sister, right?
1557
00:53:42,080 –> 00:53:43,080
Is it?
1558
00:53:43,080 –> 00:53:44,080
Isn’t it?
1559
00:53:44,080 –> 00:53:47,680
I’d go for the motifs socks with a little motif on the side.
1560
00:53:47,680 –> 00:53:49,080
And then they’re easy to pair.
1561
00:53:49,080 –> 00:53:50,800
And you know who socks are, who is?
1562
00:53:50,800 –> 00:53:51,800
I’m interesting, OK.
1563
00:53:51,800 –> 00:53:52,800
I think I’m wearing…
1564
00:53:52,800 –> 00:53:53,800
Oh, now I’ve got spotty’s on today.
1565
00:53:53,800 –> 00:53:57,000
I was going to say, I’ll just think I’m wearing Thor socks today.
1566
00:53:57,000 –> 00:53:59,000
The Thor’s hammer on the side, but…
1567
00:53:59,000 –> 00:54:00,000
Always a child.
1568
00:54:00,000 –> 00:54:02,440
Yeah, but the black sock theory is good.
1569
00:54:02,440 –> 00:54:04,280
Everyone’s same size, everyone’s same colour.
1570
00:54:04,280 –> 00:54:05,280
Yeah.
1571
00:54:05,280 –> 00:54:07,280
I presume you’re all size eight.
1572
00:54:07,280 –> 00:54:08,280
It didn’t matter.
1573
00:54:08,280 –> 00:54:09,280
I really…
1574
00:54:09,280 –> 00:54:10,280
I like the day.
1575
00:54:10,280 –> 00:54:11,280
Yeah.
1576
00:54:11,280 –> 00:54:12,280
That’s a sort of good system.
1577
00:54:12,280 –> 00:54:13,280
Yeah.
1578
00:54:13,280 –> 00:54:15,280
I think everyone’s roughly at size eight, isn’t it?
1579
00:54:15,280 –> 00:54:17,280
Someone in size 10 could wear a size eight.
1580
00:54:17,280 –> 00:54:18,280
Someone is all size six.
1581
00:54:18,280 –> 00:54:19,280
Yeah, no.
1582
00:54:19,280 –> 00:54:21,280
No, you were a proper sock man.
1583
00:54:21,280 –> 00:54:23,880
Well, these two will know what’s happening now.
1584
00:54:23,880 –> 00:54:25,880
We’ve started talking about socks.
1585
00:54:25,880 –> 00:54:26,880
Is it supposed socks happen?
1586
00:54:26,880 –> 00:54:27,880
Oh, is he?
1587
00:54:27,880 –> 00:54:28,880
He is.
1588
00:54:28,880 –> 00:54:29,880
A card and a sock puller up a…
1589
00:54:29,880 –> 00:54:30,880
Yeah.
1590
00:54:30,880 –> 00:54:31,880
Can you not get braces?
1591
00:54:31,880 –> 00:54:33,880
Yeah, I don’t want to go down that route.
1592
00:54:33,880 –> 00:54:34,880
Socks, that’s what it’s called.
1593
00:54:34,880 –> 00:54:36,880
Socks feel weird.
1594
00:54:36,880 –> 00:54:37,880
So now we’ve said socks.
1595
00:54:37,880 –> 00:54:38,880
You’re not thinking about it.
1596
00:54:38,880 –> 00:54:39,880
Socks are my English again.
1597
00:54:39,880 –> 00:54:40,880
What, what?
1598
00:54:40,880 –> 00:54:41,880
Point socks are…
1599
00:54:41,880 –> 00:54:42,880
So you’re…
1600
00:54:42,880 –> 00:54:43,880
I’m going to try and resist it.
1601
00:54:43,880 –> 00:54:45,880
But if a sock’s hanging off the end of my toes,
1602
00:54:45,880 –> 00:54:46,880
Scrub it at the end of my feet, that’s it.
1603
00:54:46,880 –> 00:54:47,880
That’s like that.
1604
00:54:47,880 –> 00:54:48,880
If that’s…
1605
00:54:48,880 –> 00:54:49,880
My heels…
1606
00:54:49,880 –> 00:54:50,880
Yeah.
1607
00:54:50,880 –> 00:54:52,280
All the way down, slightly round to the sock, they have to come off,
1608
00:54:52,280 –> 00:54:53,280
all the way back on.
1609
00:54:53,280 –> 00:54:54,280
That’s like that.
1610
00:54:54,280 –> 00:54:55,780
And he gets angry if you see people in our house with the socks like that.
1611
00:54:55,780 –> 00:54:56,780
We call them…
1612
00:54:56,780 –> 00:54:57,780
I don’t know why, “Melly socks.”
1613
00:54:57,780 –> 00:54:58,780
He’s like, “Oh, you’ve got belly socks.
1614
00:54:58,780 –> 00:54:59,780
You’ve got to change your socks.”
1615
00:54:59,780 –> 00:55:01,780
And none of us care, but he really calls.
1616
00:55:01,780 –> 00:55:02,780
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1617
00:55:02,780 –> 00:55:06,280
Yeah, if I’m wearing shorts, I can roll the socks down.
1618
00:55:06,280 –> 00:55:07,280
Yeah.
1619
00:55:07,280 –> 00:55:10,120
If I’m wearing shorts, I can roll them down.
1620
00:55:10,120 –> 00:55:13,680
But if I’m wearing proper tires, I’ve got to be pulled up.
1621
00:55:13,680 –> 00:55:14,680
Oh.
1622
00:55:14,680 –> 00:55:15,680
Yeah.
1623
00:55:15,680 –> 00:55:16,680
It’s weird, isn’t it?
1624
00:55:16,680 –> 00:55:17,680
We’ve learnt some English today.
1625
00:55:17,680 –> 00:55:19,680
Don’t, yeah, don’t like them not feel uncomfortable.
1626
00:55:19,680 –> 00:55:20,680
Yeah.
1627
00:55:20,680 –> 00:55:23,280
And even have to put the left sock on first.
1628
00:55:23,280 –> 00:55:24,280
Wow.
1629
00:55:24,280 –> 00:55:25,280
Yeah.
1630
00:55:25,280 –> 00:55:26,280
Okay.
1631
00:55:26,280 –> 00:55:27,280
We’ve really touched on something here with socks, haven’t we?
1632
00:55:27,280 –> 00:55:28,280
Yeah.
1633
00:55:28,280 –> 00:55:29,280
Yeah.
1634
00:55:29,280 –> 00:55:30,280
And I…
1635
00:55:30,280 –> 00:55:31,280
Yeah.
1636
00:55:31,280 –> 00:55:32,280
They are literally going…
1637
00:55:32,280 –> 00:55:33,280
Bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop.
1638
00:55:33,280 –> 00:55:34,280
My ankle’s all that it’s horrible.
1639
00:55:34,280 –> 00:55:36,280
So on that note, I’m going to…
1640
00:55:36,280 –> 00:55:37,280
Why?
1641
00:55:37,280 –> 00:55:38,280
I’m going to…
1642
00:55:38,280 –> 00:55:39,280
I’m wearing a knuckle pull with socks.
1643
00:55:39,280 –> 00:55:40,280
I’m sad.
1644
00:55:40,280 –> 00:55:42,280
So thank you so much.
1645
00:55:42,280 –> 00:55:43,280
I really enjoyed that.
1646
00:55:43,280 –> 00:55:44,280
Pleasure.
1647
00:55:44,280 –> 00:55:45,280
It was great.
1648
00:55:45,280 –> 00:55:47,280
And I look forward to seeing your sort of…
1649
00:55:47,280 –> 00:55:49,880
Not grand designs, whatever you are.
1650
00:55:49,880 –> 00:55:50,880
What are you going to call your house, programme?
1651
00:55:50,880 –> 00:55:51,880
I don’t know.
1652
00:55:51,880 –> 00:55:52,880
Good point, I’ll have a think.
1653
00:55:52,880 –> 00:55:53,880
Yeah.
1654
00:55:53,880 –> 00:55:54,880
I’ll have a think.
1655
00:55:54,880 –> 00:55:55,880
That’s great.
1656
00:55:55,880 –> 00:55:56,880
But thank you so much for coming on.
1657
00:55:56,880 –> 00:55:57,880
Get sure to…
1658
00:55:57,880 –> 00:55:58,880
And look forward to…
1659
00:55:58,880 –> 00:56:00,880
Sorting your shirt out for you.
1660
00:56:00,880 –> 00:56:01,880
Yeah.
1661
00:56:01,880 –> 00:56:02,880
Thank you so much, haven’t we?
1662
00:56:02,880 –> 00:56:16,880
[Music]
1663
00:56:16,880 –> 00:56:21,480
Do you see what I mean?
1664
00:56:21,480 –> 00:56:24,480
Alex really knew what these Gid shirties were going to be.
1665
00:56:24,480 –> 00:56:26,480
And I really like that.
1666
00:56:26,480 –> 00:56:29,480
A massive thank you to Alex for coming on the podcast.
1667
00:56:29,480 –> 00:56:34,480
Really great to talk to you and I hope we get to speak more again in the future.
1668
00:56:34,480 –> 00:56:39,680
Big thank you as always going out to Stuart Wilson for the editing and for the production.
1669
00:56:39,680 –> 00:56:44,880
To Sam, as always, for keeping us on track and making sure that the things get done,
1670
00:56:44,880 –> 00:56:49,480
the need to get done and to DatHazza for the music as always.
1671
00:56:49,480 –> 00:56:52,480
I’m your host, another Stuart.
1672
00:56:52,480 –> 00:56:55,480
Until next time, do try not to get too shirty.
1673
00:56:55,480 –> 00:57:25,080
[Music]
1674
00:57:25,080 –> 00:57:35,280
Let’s get shirty.
1675
00:57:35,280 –> 00:57:36,280
Quick pull your socks up.1
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You know it’s um…
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00:00:02,000 –> 00:00:03,000
Um…
4
00:00:03,000 –> 00:00:05,000
I’m sorry, you just come in and talk all over.
5
00:00:05,000 –> 00:00:06,000
I’m so sorry.
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00:00:07,000 –> 00:00:08,000
I haven’t had a clap yet.
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00:00:08,000 –> 00:00:13,400
Welcome to Get Shirty, the podcast that likes to look at the little things in life which
9
00:00:13,400 –> 00:00:15,320
never fail to irritate.
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Each episode we ask our special guest to talk about what gets them shirty at home, work
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00:00:20,500 –> 00:00:22,080
and going out.
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Then our off-the-cuff surprise question could take the chat anywhere.
13
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Each guest also designs their own mate or measure shirt which we then make.
14
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So we talk about that too.
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Funny that, us being tailors.
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00:00:36,720 –> 00:00:58,720
Welcome to Season 2’s episode 3.
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Yes I’m going to stick with seasons, podcasts can have seasons sure .
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So it’s been such a banger of a start to the new season and that’s not changing any
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00:01:08,600 –> 00:01:13,440
time soon as today’s guest is Alex Beard.
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Alex is a journalist, broadcaster and presenter and somehow still manages to find the time
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to project manager house renovation and build and share it with us all on her amazing
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social media.
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So fun to talk to Alex and she really had laser precision for these Get Shirtys just to
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join us P2.
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So here we go then, one guest, two mics, three tailors and a host of irritations.
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Let’s get shirty.
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Alex, welcome to the Get Shirty Podcast.
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Thank you.
29
00:02:11,440 –> 00:02:16,920
Nice to have another lady in the podcast.
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Yeah good, please to represent.
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We want loads more.
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I know quite a few if you need any more.
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Definitely, definitely.
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Send people away, we’d love that.
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I’m slightly worried, I’m going to come clean.
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Yeah because I, having listened to other podcasts, realised what your definition of shirt
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is and I don’t know if I have that level of calm.
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I think I have fine or let’s take shirty and drop the R like that.
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So I’ve tried to find something more mild to discuss.
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I just go straight to rage.
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Yeah good, well do you know and quite often one of the themes actually that comes through
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on the podcast is that people say, oh I’m really quite calm actually, I don’t tend to
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get cross and like I’m always thinking, I get pretty cross, you know, like and I was
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sort of say, oh that’s really zen of you, you know, I’ll think.
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I don’t know what they’re taking, that’s what I want to know.
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Is it?
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Yeah because the definition now, in fact, which came out from their live one is, get shirty,
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is one below tetchy, is what.
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So you’re above tetchy, are you?
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Yeah, I think so.
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I think I’m a woman of an age who is patience is thin, basically.
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So I’m fine, I’m fine, I’m absolutely not fine.
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Are you losing your shirt?
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I would say I remain fine at most things.
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Right, okay.
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So the line, it takes a bit of time to reach the line, but once you’ve reached the line,
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that’s it.
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Yeah, full red mist, yeah.
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And do you calm down as quickly?
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Yes, no, I’m fine.
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Good at that, yeah.
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So you’re like, really cross and then in some ways.
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Lots of its free tips, now for better and back down to earth.
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Okay, for the record, if you want to swear, we’re not a non-swearie.
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Okay, for you, because I, yeah, I’ve spent so much of my career not swearing that I feel
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like I’m now in overdrive and I loosely pepper my conversation.
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Swear, yeah.
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Because it was, because you’ve done radio and TV, yeah.
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Is there a preference to put that on?
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Yeah, tell it, yeah, love it.
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Although having said, gone back to podcast, we’ve, in COVID had a podcast and it’s actually
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quite a nice, relaxed medium.
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allows you to have a much easier conversation, whereas tell it, it’s like, please tell this
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detailed political story in 90 seconds.
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So it’s, it’s fast, it’s really abrupt, you have to get to the point really quickly.
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And so audio allows you to have a much looser conversation, which I really enjoy.
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But at the same time, I then get find myself getting incredibly frustrated when people aren’t
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able to get to the top line of things, because I’m like, just tell them what you need to
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say, quicker please.
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And that’s telly.
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Right, okay.
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It’s, yeah, it’s, it’s interesting, isn’t it, that sort of, like, I really like podcast
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on, I listened to a lot of podcast, because of that free form conversation, you never
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quite sure where it’s going to go and, you know, you, you sort of, one of the things I find
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frustrating actually gives me a little bit sure to is sometimes when they’re making a
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point, like you say, it’s not sometimes that they don’t get, they’re quick enough, it’s
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just that they forget it and they don’t pick it back up later on.
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And then I’m like, but you were just about to make a really good point about that.
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And somebody spoke over the top and they never go back to it.
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I think I really wanted to hear what you wanted to say, I suppose you don’t get that in
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Not so much, because you’re, you’re out to get that one answer.
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So if someone moves off the subject, you circle back and be like, she’s what I’ve come
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here to ask you is this, I need that answer.
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So you go back and annoy them, the Pacsman style, if you will.
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I’m just not as obnoxious, I think.
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I’d like to think anyway.
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Well, well, we’ll find out.
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Well, that’s right.
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And then it’s, like, by the time you have gone, gone, so Pacsman.
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And do you find yourself edit a little bit as when you’re on TV more than, say, Radio or
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podcast?
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I mean, it’s been a while, so I haven’t been in telly for quite a while now.
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I’ve actually, like, side-step to advertising, just as a result of having kids and other boring,
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predictable.
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But when I first moved into advertising, advertising is really frilly language and lots of,
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I just know top line.
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And I found that, I’m like, I’ve written my proposals.
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Three sentences and everyone’s like, oh, no, we’re expecting three A4 pages.
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The sentiment is still the same.
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I’ve summarised it three sentences.
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It’s a real gear change to me because I’m constantly self-editing.
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I just, even in my life, I’m like, what’s the quickest route to this?
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Very different to how my husband, Matt, who’s also been on your podcast.
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How he operates, he’s a meanderer, lots of, you know, he’s like a meanderering river,
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whereas I’m just like a waterfall.
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But we’re nowhere where we’re going.
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Yeah, so, yeah, every aspect of my life, I think I take that self-edit, telly, quick to the
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point, hence one quick to rage.
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Well, look, let’s get straight in with the rage there.
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Oh, or a shirt.
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Which are you like?
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So, the three sort of first areas that we look at is, so it’s work, rest and play.
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So, work, what are your work, get shirties?
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That’s quite varied, isn’t it?
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It is quite varied, but I think this is quite a universal shirtie.
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I’m sure that I’m going to have lots of people on board with me here.
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And it’s people who do reply all unnecessarily.
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And I will say that it does eventually send me to a blind rage.
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So, I start shirtie, but there’s a really good example about a month ago.
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So, where I work now, thousands of people in this company, someone sent out an email saying,
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really pleased to announce that, so and so, you’ve never heard of, there’s got a job
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so you’ve never heard of.
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Great, you know, like just a classic, all business email and then every fucker in the company
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replies all to congratulate this person we’ve ever heard of.
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I don’t need 55 emails.
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From somebody I’ve never heard of congratulating somebody.
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I’ve never heard, honestly, by the end of the day.
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Oh, my delete, just like, this is so unnecessary.
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So, yeah, it started off shirtie, but built to a rage.
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I am with you now.
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Okay, thank you.
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I am with you on that.
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Right, I think everybody would be with you on that.
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It is unnecessary.
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Like, and do you think people were doing it consciously?
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Do you think some people just like, oh yeah, reply or was it like, was there, was there,
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Oh no, they were,
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Some virtue seemingly.
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Totally, they were like, I love it.
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Yeah, they were, we’ve seen in the front of the queue with a little flag.
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They’re the people who get to the front of the gig and they get to the front of whenever
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the King’s was taking.
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They’re those people.
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Yeah, see, I think, I think that would probably piss me off more than having to look
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at all the emails, like the sort of sentiment behind them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, too much.
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And it’s all a bit gushy, isn’t it, as well?
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Yeah, it is.
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Come on, let’s remember we’re British.
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Let’s keep it to the lips.
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Yeah, and are you pretty good with emails anyway?
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Oh, yeah, I’m killer.
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I do wish this.
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Yeah, totally.
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I’m one of those people who always has an empty inbox, always, like those people who,
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yeah, I have no time for those people who are like, look at my 23,000, I’m like, you’re
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not?
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No, honestly, it makes me itch, physically itch.
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I don’t know how you can live your life like that, same with WhatsApp, anything like that,
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I’m like, get through it, clear it out, I need to be at zero at all times.
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Yeah, yeah, because you, Stu, you’ve got lots of folders as well, and they sort of, they filter
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into the different folders.
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Are you a Virgo?
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No.
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Okay, I don’t know what that means.
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(Laughter)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Virgo.
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Yes, I am.
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Oh, well, I just don’t know.
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I just don’t know.
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I only know if it was a Virgo, I’ll be like, yeah, that sounds a Virgo.
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You know, that might be very characteristic, I’m not sure.
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Yeah, it could be, couldn’t it?
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Yeah, I can’t, um, it’s not true.
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It’s a wolf.
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No, I like it when I, when you find things that you agree with, confirmation bias, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that bit, I’ll have that bit, yeah.
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Absolutely, yeah, definitely that.
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Yeah, so no, I’m not organised with my emails at all.
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It is a, is it a problem?
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Ah, it can be, it can be, yeah.
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It’s very, if you still know the crowd.
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Yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I’m not the business chief communicator.
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You know, that’s not, that’s not my role in the business because it’s not my forte.
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Um, but, you know, I’ve got a few folders, I’ve got one folder that is dealt with, so once
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I’ve dealt with it, I’ll drag it across into that folder, sometimes.
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That’s it.
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Yeah, so sometimes I’ll take it across to that folder, sometimes I won’t.
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But the minute I’ve dealt with something, it’s, it’s gone out of my mind.
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So, um, and sometimes the minute I’ve read it and think I’ll deal with that, it’s gone
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out of my mind.
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Yeah, it’s happening.
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I’m sure I’m de-like Noses, ADHD, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, um, yeah, so I’m not great with emails.
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So it sounds like you’re, are you sort of that organised in there?
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Oh, God, yeah.
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Yeah, um, we call it in my family, Sergeant Major mode.
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Right, I do.
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I do.
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I do.
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Yeah, I’m a list executor.
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I’m, yeah.
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You’re an achiever.
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I know.
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I know.
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I’m that strong, like that would suggest that I’ve had a lofty, I don’t know.
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Yeah, but even those can just be a day-to-day life achieve.
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Yeah, I’ll go.
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You know, like I’ve got these 10 tasks to do today.
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Yeah.
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One of them is cleaning the other and then six of them are sort of…
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100% that person.
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…getting the kids doing things sorted.
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Yeah, I’m the captain of the ship.
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Yeah.
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The captain doesn’t know which direction they’re going in.
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You’re getting lost at sea, aren’t you?
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That’s how I see my role.
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When I first started dating my husband, who’s the polar opposite of me, he had this little
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Persho sporting thing, blue car.
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And I opened the glove compartment and like a comedy sketch, like a cartoon sketch, all
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these letters started like…
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Oh, okay.
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…out and made, all unopened.
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Yeah.
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I was like, what’s this?
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Yeah.
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And he just said, oh, it’s just my poster, don’t like reading posters because then I have
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to do stuff.
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Right.
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And then instantly, that was my night, sat cross-legged on his bed, just going through all
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of his posts and like replying to things and stuff.
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I can’t…
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If I know that that’s somewhere, I can’t sleep until that’s done.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, that’s, I guess that’s where…
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And it’s a coping mechanism because if there’s something undone, then I get stressy.
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Yeah.
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So that’s where…
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So I do it to piece my own stuff.
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Yeah, but that’s…
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But that’s…
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That’s good in and of itself, because it’s like…
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You know what you need to do for your own well-being and you do it.
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Yeah, true.
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Yeah.
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Rather than, I know that that would make me feel better, but I’m still comfortable.
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I just can’t ignore it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, in terms of your husband, you were a godson then really for him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, but at the same time, like he does the things that I’m not very good at.
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Yeah.
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There is a happy harmony there.
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Yeah, that’s good.
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And you took that initial kind of like, “Oh, God, you’re like that.”
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“Oh, God, you’re like that.”
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To work out that, “Okay, this could work if we just…”
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Yeah.
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We know what divide and conquer is.
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Yeah.
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We know what that is now.
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Yeah, well that’s good.
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Especially at the moment as well with your house.
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With the house, yeah.
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How’s that going?
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Yeah, I mean, hilariously.
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So it’s been taking us like two and a half years to get to this point.
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Right.
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Very…
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And there’s been loads of rounds of planning, blah, blah, blah, lots of conversations with the architect.
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And about a couple of months ago, I had the plans out that I was doing something.
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And Matt was like, “Oh, I don’t know if I like that bit.”
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And I’m like, “Absolutely not.”
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Two and a half years down the line, you wake up and decide to have an interest in what we’ve
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drawn.
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No.
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And he’s been brought in on every stage, but in that kind of ADHD thing, he’s sort of like,
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“I’ve seen that done.”
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Yeah.
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Like, “I’ve moved away.”
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And I haven’t got a thing about that.
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Yeah.
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And I’m like, “No, no, no.
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The time for questions have passed.
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This is what’s being built now.”
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I’m very much the…
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I will like and project managing it.
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Yeah.
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And then I give him a shuffle and bill out, dig there and he’ll dig there.
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Yeah.
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So that’s the way that we manage that.
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I saw the videos on your Instagram around all the footings and dig the trenches filling
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up with water.
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Yeah.
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I throw a chicken in there.
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Yeah.
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Or child.
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Or cat.
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Anything but concrete really, ever beginning for a quite a long time.
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And then we couldn’t get the concrete to sight, but you still have to pay for the concrete,
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which was an expensive mistake to me.
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So could it just, it couldn’t reverse down your little line or…?
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No, so I had planned because we live, we’ve got this sounds grand, it’s not grand, we’ve
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got this very, very long skinny drive.
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Yeah.
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And it’s like, I know that something’s not going to get up there.
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Yeah.
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So I pay for, this is very boring in apologies, but I pay for a line pump.
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This is what my chat is now.
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It’s like, line pumps and foundations.
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You know what?
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You’re a rising person, aren’t you?
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Yeah.
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So I paid for a line pump to get up the drive.
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So I knew that was going to be a problem.
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I haven’t anticipated, they couldn’t even get on to our first road, let alone our drive.
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So he was out on a general road, been like, “Kel, Guy, do you feel I have a love?”
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I’m like, “What?”
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So you just had to wave it off, wave off that £2,000 down the road.
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I know.
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But you know what, that’s what happens when you project money to yourself.
383
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So we’re learning these mistakes now.
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And now even if I order so much as a doorbell, I’m telling people they have to come and
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survey the site before they try to live there.
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Right, okay.
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I’m like, “Don’t care, how big that package is, you can tell me you can deliver it,
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otherwise I’ll rock buying it from you.”
389
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Yeah.
390
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So I’m now super paranoid.
391
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So I’ve learnt my lesson.
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It’s good, you’ve learnt and you’ve implemented times in order to not have the same problem
393
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again.
394
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Exactly.
395
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You’ve got a concrete thing.
396
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So I found a company that had a much smaller concrete lorry, much smaller, and I said,
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“Come do a, made them, come do a site survey.”
398
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And they said, “Oh, we can get it all the way up in your drive.”
399
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I was like, “If you can get it on my drive, I will love you.”
400
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And the woman was like, “Yep, definitely get it up drive.”
401
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So I ordered the concrete from them.
402
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The guy took 45 minutes to get the first load up the drive, then got to the top and he was
403
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like, “My clutch is about to go, I’m not doing that again.”
404
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I’m like that, right.
405
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So then I had to panic find a dumper truck, which I could hire and get to site within an
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hour.
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And then we ran the dumper truck down the drive, filled up with concrete, ran it back up,
408
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scooped it in.
409
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So it was still a drama, but I don’t have a trench of my garden anymore.
410
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I have some concrete.
411
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So we got there.
412
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Yeah, blah.
413
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Yeah, blah.
414
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And then are you enjoying that process?
415
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Yeah, love it.
416
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There’s lists for days.
417
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And they get shirties around that.
418
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I mean, like what you’ve just described as sort of there and beyond get shirties.
419
00:16:37,720 –> 00:16:39,280
Well, I suppose they’re issues just.
420
00:16:39,280 –> 00:16:43,480
Yeah, weirdly, those sort of things, Matt was quite angry when that first concrete thing
421
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happened.
422
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I was absolutely then.
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Right, okay.
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Because what can I, like, the point at which it’s nothing I can do, I can’t make a
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wider road and I can’t make a smaller concrete truck.
426
00:16:52,880 –> 00:16:53,880
It is what it is.
427
00:16:53,880 –> 00:16:54,880
Yeah.
428
00:16:54,880 –> 00:16:55,880
But Matt got quite shirty.
429
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Right, okay.
430
00:16:56,880 –> 00:16:57,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
431
00:16:57,880 –> 00:17:01,680
No, there’s definitely, but, you know, we have had a fight with planning for two years.
432
00:17:01,680 –> 00:17:02,680
Right, I agree.
433
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And that’s, yeah.
434
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That’s the local.
435
00:17:04,680 –> 00:17:08,080
Yeah, the local counts were really helpful.
436
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We have a parish council who weighed in.
437
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Oh.
438
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Yeah.
439
00:17:12,880 –> 00:17:16,880
I won’t go too much into that because they don’t like me very much, but we won.
440
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Oh, well, that’s shame on them.
441
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Yeah.
442
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Yeah, I’ll invite them over for a tea once it’s done.
443
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Yeah.
444
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And then, you know, I think it’s a bit of a shame.
445
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
446
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
447
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
448
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
451
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
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496
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I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
497
00:18:38,080 –> 00:18:39,080
I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
498
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I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
499
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
500
00:18:41,080 –> 00:18:42,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
501
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
502
00:18:43,080 –> 00:18:44,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
503
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
504
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
505
00:18:46,080 –> 00:18:47,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
506
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
507
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
508
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
509
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I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
510
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I just want to be really open about how much stuff costs because I think that’s it’s almost a bit of an industry secret.
511
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No one ever really reveals the price of stuff.
512
00:19:01,080 –> 00:19:03,080
How much is it to build your own house?
513
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No one talks about it.
514
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No one talks about it.
515
00:19:05,080 –> 00:19:08,080
You can obviously see those grand signs that they’re like, “Oh, it costs just 1.7 million.”
516
00:19:08,080 –> 00:19:11,080
Well, we’ve got to be able to build a house for less than 1.7 million.
517
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So let’s, I’m going to do walks and all, and I’m going to walk to that.
518
00:19:15,080 –> 00:19:21,080
Oh, so that could be your next thing then, like your own sort of housing program.
519
00:19:21,080 –> 00:19:22,080
Yeah, I’ve got that bit of a dream.
520
00:19:22,080 –> 00:19:23,080
Or would it?
521
00:19:23,080 –> 00:19:24,080
Yeah, absolutely.
522
00:19:24,080 –> 00:19:25,080
Yeah, they absolutely.
523
00:19:25,080 –> 00:19:26,080
Yeah, totally.
524
00:19:26,080 –> 00:19:30,080
Matt and I is the first date we’ve gone through a pub in Tampa, Wales.
525
00:19:30,080 –> 00:19:33,080
And I am inherently nosy and really in town is.
526
00:19:33,080 –> 00:19:38,080
And so we were walking back and I asked him to give me a Lego for a wall search
527
00:19:38,080 –> 00:19:40,080
because I was like, “There’s a house there. I’ve never seen.”
528
00:19:40,080 –> 00:19:43,080
And he had to give me a Lego for a wall so I could have a nose.
529
00:19:43,080 –> 00:19:44,080
So yeah, that would be–
530
00:19:44,080 –> 00:19:46,080
No, proper, proper, yeah, yeah, my nosey bitch, yeah.
531
00:19:46,080 –> 00:19:47,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
532
00:19:47,080 –> 00:19:49,080
Bit of a bitch, yeah.
533
00:19:49,080 –> 00:19:55,080
Yeah, well, there was something about properties and houses and I think there’s an element
534
00:19:55,080 –> 00:19:57,080
of how other people live.
535
00:19:57,080 –> 00:19:58,080
Yeah.
536
00:19:58,080 –> 00:20:00,080
I get a bit like that with other people’s shops.
537
00:20:00,080 –> 00:20:01,080
Do you?
538
00:20:01,080 –> 00:20:04,080
Yeah, and you go, “Oh, I wouldn’t put that there.”
539
00:20:04,080 –> 00:20:07,080
I don’t think you’ll sell better over there or that sort of thing.
540
00:20:07,080 –> 00:20:11,080
I’ll never say it, but you always sort of redesigning people’s shops.
541
00:20:11,080 –> 00:20:14,080
This shop’s perfect, which it isn’t.
542
00:20:14,080 –> 00:20:19,080
But yeah, so, “Oh, good. Well, we’ll look forward to seeing you.”
543
00:20:19,080 –> 00:20:20,080
Yeah, let’s put that in there.
544
00:20:20,080 –> 00:20:21,080
I think you’d be great with that.
545
00:20:21,080 –> 00:20:22,080
Great, yeah.
546
00:20:22,080 –> 00:20:23,080
Thanks.
547
00:20:23,080 –> 00:20:30,080
[SIREN]
548
00:20:30,080 –> 00:20:31,080
So that’s your work, Get Shirtie, that.
549
00:20:31,080 –> 00:20:33,080
Yeah, that’s my work, Get Shirtie.
550
00:20:33,080 –> 00:20:34,080
Emails.
551
00:20:34,080 –> 00:20:35,080
Emails.
552
00:20:35,080 –> 00:20:36,080
Oh, yeah, we travel quite a long way from here.
553
00:20:36,080 –> 00:20:37,080
Yeah, absolutely.
554
00:20:37,080 –> 00:20:38,080
Wow!
555
00:20:38,080 –> 00:20:42,080
So, you’ve been a professional journalist and interviewer.
556
00:20:42,080 –> 00:20:45,080
If you ever just want to bring it back on track, you know, that’s fine, don’t you?
557
00:20:45,080 –> 00:20:47,080
You wanted to steer the ship, you just said.
558
00:20:47,080 –> 00:20:50,080
No, well, I’m happy to steer it, but just be prepared for her.
559
00:20:50,080 –> 00:20:51,080
Grabbing the rudder at the top.
560
00:20:51,080 –> 00:20:52,080
Yeah, you got you.
561
00:20:52,080 –> 00:20:54,080
So, emails, yes, I agree.
562
00:20:54,080 –> 00:20:55,080
What about rest?
563
00:20:55,080 –> 00:20:56,080
So that’s being at home.
564
00:20:56,080 –> 00:20:57,080
Being at home.
565
00:20:57,080 –> 00:21:01,080
You know, what’s that sort of when in your downtime, not the going outside of things,
566
00:21:01,080 –> 00:21:03,080
what are you get shirties?
567
00:21:03,080 –> 00:21:05,080
You don’t have to point the finger?
568
00:21:05,080 –> 00:21:06,080
No, there’s no finger.
569
00:21:06,080 –> 00:21:08,080
But it’s okay, what I’m pointing at, slugs.
570
00:21:08,080 –> 00:21:09,080
Slugs?
571
00:21:09,080 –> 00:21:10,080
Yeah.
572
00:21:10,080 –> 00:21:11,080
Where do they live?
573
00:21:11,080 –> 00:21:12,080
I do not understand it, right?
574
00:21:12,080 –> 00:21:13,080
I don’t understand that.
575
00:21:13,080 –> 00:21:14,080
We, and you’re ducking.
576
00:21:14,080 –> 00:21:15,080
Well, can you keep them there, please?
577
00:21:15,080 –> 00:21:18,080
All the world slugs, a little under there.
578
00:21:18,080 –> 00:21:19,080
I don’t understand it.
579
00:21:19,080 –> 00:21:24,080
So, we are obviously living in a house that is not great at the moment because it will be renovated.
580
00:21:24,080 –> 00:21:27,080
And every morning I come down, there’s been a slug party.
581
00:21:27,080 –> 00:21:31,080
I don’t know where those fuckers are, but they leave a trail and it is like glistening.
582
00:21:31,080 –> 00:21:32,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
583
00:21:32,080 –> 00:21:34,080
And then, like, also, I’ve got chickens.
584
00:21:34,080 –> 00:21:35,080
Why don’t my chickens eat them?
585
00:21:35,080 –> 00:21:36,080
Yeah.
586
00:21:36,080 –> 00:21:37,080
Who, why do we need slugs?
587
00:21:37,080 –> 00:21:38,080
It’s my question.
588
00:21:38,080 –> 00:21:39,080
Do we need slugs?
589
00:21:39,080 –> 00:21:40,080
I know.
590
00:21:40,080 –> 00:21:41,080
I don’t know.
591
00:21:41,080 –> 00:21:42,080
There must be something to do with biodiversity.
592
00:21:42,080 –> 00:21:43,080
Yeah, I’m sure.
593
00:21:43,080 –> 00:21:47,080
Because I don’t think they quite break down the soil like worms, do, obviously.
594
00:21:47,080 –> 00:21:48,080
Yeah.
595
00:21:48,080 –> 00:21:49,080
And I don’t think there is beneficial as snails.
596
00:21:49,080 –> 00:21:50,080
No.
597
00:21:50,080 –> 00:21:51,080
Yeah, I don’t know.
598
00:21:51,080 –> 00:21:52,080
I thought chicken slugs.
599
00:21:52,080 –> 00:21:53,080
I thought chicken slugs.
600
00:21:53,080 –> 00:21:54,080
I thought chicken slugs.
601
00:21:54,080 –> 00:21:55,080
I thought chicken slugs.
602
00:21:55,080 –> 00:21:56,080
I’ve got fussy chickens.
603
00:21:56,080 –> 00:21:57,080
You could have already put away at night, right?
604
00:21:57,080 –> 00:21:58,080
Yeah.
605
00:21:58,080 –> 00:21:59,080
So, there’s not a different way.
606
00:21:59,080 –> 00:22:01,080
Well, the thing is, slugs are a little bit more than that.
607
00:22:01,080 –> 00:22:02,080
Yeah.
608
00:22:02,080 –> 00:22:09,760
So, the thing is, slugs are a little bit like that one episode of X-Files, where there was
609
00:22:09,760 –> 00:22:12,080
that character that could get through any gap.
610
00:22:12,080 –> 00:22:13,080
Did you remember that?
611
00:22:13,080 –> 00:22:16,080
No, but my references, flat-standly, you also said X-Files.
612
00:22:16,080 –> 00:22:17,080
Flat-standly, yeah.
613
00:22:17,080 –> 00:22:18,080
See, I love flat-standly.
614
00:22:18,080 –> 00:22:19,080
Yeah.
615
00:22:19,080 –> 00:22:24,280
So, they can fit through incredibly small gaps, slugs.
616
00:22:24,280 –> 00:22:25,280
And they hide.
617
00:22:25,280 –> 00:22:27,280
They are daytime hiders.
618
00:22:27,280 –> 00:22:28,280
Yeah.
619
00:22:28,280 –> 00:22:29,280
So, they do.
620
00:22:29,280 –> 00:22:30,280
Yeah.
621
00:22:30,280 –> 00:22:34,160
And then that moment that you step out online, oh, I could put a milk bottle out for the
622
00:22:34,160 –> 00:22:36,160
milkman and put in your toes.
623
00:22:36,160 –> 00:22:37,160
A bit better.
624
00:22:37,160 –> 00:22:38,160
Yeah.
625
00:22:38,160 –> 00:22:39,160
Or for, or for, or for.
626
00:22:39,160 –> 00:22:40,160
Yeah.
627
00:22:40,160 –> 00:22:41,160
What is the point of them?
628
00:22:41,160 –> 00:22:42,160
That’s bad.
629
00:22:42,160 –> 00:22:43,160
That is bad.
630
00:22:43,160 –> 00:22:44,160
I’ve been ironed and do a slug run.
631
00:22:44,160 –> 00:22:45,160
Do you do a slug run?
632
00:22:45,160 –> 00:22:46,160
Do you do a slug run?
633
00:22:46,160 –> 00:22:47,160
Do you do a slug run?
634
00:22:47,160 –> 00:22:48,160
Do you do a slug run?
635
00:22:48,160 –> 00:22:49,160
Do you do a slug run?
636
00:22:49,160 –> 00:22:50,160
Do you do a slug run?
637
00:22:50,160 –> 00:22:51,160
Do you do a slug run?
638
00:22:51,160 –> 00:22:52,160
Do you do a slug run?
639
00:22:52,160 –> 00:22:53,160
Do you do a slug run?
640
00:22:53,160 –> 00:22:54,160
Do you do a slug run?
641
00:22:54,160 –> 00:22:55,160
Do you do a slug run?
642
00:22:55,160 –> 00:22:56,160
Do you do a slug run?
643
00:22:56,160 –> 00:23:05,040
Do you do a slug run?
644
00:23:05,040 –> 00:23:06,040
Do you do a slug run?
645
00:23:06,040 –> 00:23:07,040
Do you do a slug run?
646
00:23:07,040 –> 00:23:08,040
Do you do a slug run?
647
00:23:08,040 –> 00:23:09,040
Do you do a slug run?
648
00:23:09,040 –> 00:23:10,040
Do you do a slug run?
649
00:23:10,040 –> 00:23:11,040
Do you do a slug run?
650
00:23:11,040 –> 00:23:12,040
Do you do a slug run?
651
00:23:12,040 –> 00:23:13,040
Do you do a slug run?
652
00:23:13,040 –> 00:23:14,040
Do you do a slug run?
653
00:23:14,040 –> 00:23:15,040
Do you do a slug run?
654
00:23:15,040 –> 00:23:16,040
Do you do a slug run?
655
00:23:16,040 –> 00:23:17,040
Do you do a slug run?
656
00:23:17,040 –> 00:23:18,040
Do you do a slug run?
657
00:23:18,040 –> 00:23:19,040
Do you do a slug run?
658
00:23:19,040 –> 00:23:20,040
Do you do a slug run?
659
00:23:20,040 –> 00:23:21,040
Do you do a slug run?
660
00:23:21,040 –> 00:23:22,040
Do you do a slug run?
661
00:23:22,040 –> 00:23:23,040
Do you do a slug run?
662
00:23:23,040 –> 00:23:24,040
Do you do a slug run?
663
00:23:24,040 –> 00:23:25,040
Do you do a slug run?
664
00:23:25,040 –> 00:23:26,040
Do you do a slug run?
665
00:23:26,040 –> 00:23:27,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
666
00:23:27,040 –> 00:23:28,040
They must have lungs.
667
00:23:28,040 –> 00:23:29,040
They must have lungs.
668
00:23:29,040 –> 00:23:30,040
They must have lungs.
669
00:23:30,040 –> 00:23:31,040
They must have lungs.
670
00:23:31,040 –> 00:23:32,040
I don’t know.
671
00:23:32,040 –> 00:23:33,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
672
00:23:33,040 –> 00:23:34,040
They must have lungs.
673
00:23:34,040 –> 00:23:35,040
I don’t know.
674
00:23:35,040 –> 00:23:36,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
675
00:23:36,040 –> 00:23:37,040
They must have lungs.
676
00:23:37,040 –> 00:23:38,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
677
00:23:38,040 –> 00:23:39,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
678
00:23:39,040 –> 00:23:40,040
They must have lungs.
679
00:23:40,040 –> 00:23:41,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
680
00:23:41,040 –> 00:23:42,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
681
00:23:42,040 –> 00:23:43,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
682
00:23:43,040 –> 00:23:44,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
683
00:23:44,040 –> 00:23:45,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
684
00:23:45,040 –> 00:23:46,040
They must have lungs.
685
00:23:46,040 –> 00:23:47,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
686
00:23:47,040 –> 00:23:48,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
687
00:23:48,040 –> 00:23:49,040
They must have lungs.
688
00:23:49,040 –> 00:23:50,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
689
00:23:50,040 –> 00:23:51,040
They must have lungs.
690
00:23:51,040 –> 00:23:52,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
691
00:23:52,040 –> 00:23:53,040
They must have lungs.
692
00:23:53,040 –> 00:23:55,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
693
00:23:55,040 –> 00:23:56,040
No, because they’re pointless.
694
00:23:56,040 –> 00:23:57,040
What’s the point in teaching people about slugs?
695
00:23:57,040 –> 00:23:58,040
They do have to play for it.
696
00:23:58,040 –> 00:23:59,040
They have to play for it.
697
00:23:59,040 –> 00:24:00,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
698
00:24:00,040 –> 00:24:01,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
699
00:24:01,040 –> 00:24:02,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
700
00:24:02,040 –> 00:24:03,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
701
00:24:03,040 –> 00:24:04,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
702
00:24:04,040 –> 00:24:05,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
703
00:24:05,040 –> 00:24:06,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
704
00:24:06,040 –> 00:24:07,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
705
00:24:07,040 –> 00:24:08,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
706
00:24:08,040 –> 00:24:09,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
707
00:24:09,040 –> 00:24:10,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
708
00:24:10,040 –> 00:24:11,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
709
00:24:11,040 –> 00:24:12,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
710
00:24:12,040 –> 00:24:13,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
711
00:24:13,040 –> 00:24:14,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
712
00:24:14,040 –> 00:24:24,040
For the world slugs live under your deck in as well.
713
00:24:24,040 –> 00:24:26,040
I would love some hedgehogs.
714
00:24:26,040 –> 00:24:27,040
Okay.
715
00:24:27,040 –> 00:24:29,040
Listen to things to do tonight then.
716
00:24:29,040 –> 00:24:30,040
Okay.
717
00:24:30,040 –> 00:24:32,040
Then you’ve got to be careful with your hedgehogs.
718
00:24:32,040 –> 00:24:33,040
So be careful with your hedgehogs.
719
00:24:33,040 –> 00:24:34,040
Careful with your compost tape with hedgehogs.
720
00:24:34,040 –> 00:24:35,040
Why?
721
00:24:35,040 –> 00:24:38,040
Because they like to go in and sleep in compost tape.
722
00:24:38,040 –> 00:24:39,040
Why do they need to be careful?
723
00:24:39,040 –> 00:24:41,040
Well, because you can kill a hedgehog easily.
724
00:24:41,040 –> 00:24:44,040
Oh, okay.
725
00:24:44,040 –> 00:24:46,040
Yeah, by sort of digging in with your fork.
726
00:24:46,040 –> 00:24:47,040
Oh, of course.
727
00:24:47,040 –> 00:24:48,040
Yeah, okay.
728
00:24:48,040 –> 00:24:49,040
You can kill it.
729
00:24:49,040 –> 00:24:50,040
Oh, of course.
730
00:24:50,040 –> 00:24:51,040
This is Ted to Springwatch.
731
00:24:51,040 –> 00:24:52,040
Oh, yeah.
732
00:24:52,040 –> 00:24:53,040
Who knew?
733
00:24:53,040 –> 00:24:55,040
Perhaps there’s a new direction for the podcast.
734
00:24:55,040 –> 00:24:59,040
So, yeah, so slugs on my 100% with you on that.
735
00:24:59,040 –> 00:25:00,040
Okay.
736
00:25:00,040 –> 00:25:01,040
So Steve, by the sound.
737
00:25:01,040 –> 00:25:02,040
Yeah.
738
00:25:02,040 –> 00:25:03,040
Sound by people.
739
00:25:03,040 –> 00:25:04,040
Yeah, I’ll give you a minute.
740
00:25:04,040 –> 00:25:05,040
Yeah.
741
00:25:05,040 –> 00:25:06,040
You’ll show off.
742
00:25:06,040 –> 00:25:07,040
Yeah.
743
00:25:07,040 –> 00:25:08,040
What are you?
744
00:25:08,040 –> 00:25:09,040
I don’t know.
745
00:25:09,040 –> 00:25:10,040
Really?
746
00:25:10,040 –> 00:25:10,040
Yeah, I don’t know.
747
00:25:10,040 –> 00:25:11,040
It’s that.
748
00:25:11,040 –> 00:25:12,040
Town slugs.
749
00:25:12,040 –> 00:25:15,040
Slugs get to their outskirts of a town going on.
750
00:25:15,040 –> 00:25:16,040
Oh, no, thanks.
751
00:25:16,040 –> 00:25:17,040
That’s a town.
752
00:25:17,040 –> 00:25:18,040
It’s a town, I’m not going on a big point.
753
00:25:18,040 –> 00:25:19,040
Yeah, time to drive.
754
00:25:19,040 –> 00:25:20,040
We’re not going in there.
755
00:25:20,040 –> 00:25:21,040
We’re going in there.
756
00:25:21,040 –> 00:25:22,040
It’s way too.
757
00:25:22,040 –> 00:25:23,040
I’ll be a little minigun.
758
00:25:23,040 –> 00:25:28,040
(Music)
759
00:25:28,040 –> 00:25:31,040
Work, rest, and what about going out?
760
00:25:31,040 –> 00:25:32,040
Okay.
761
00:25:32,040 –> 00:25:34,040
I’ve taken a different tactic going out because
762
00:25:34,040 –> 00:25:36,040
don’t go out that often.
763
00:25:36,040 –> 00:25:37,040
No.
764
00:25:37,040 –> 00:25:38,040
Sadly, anymore.
765
00:25:38,040 –> 00:25:39,040
Yeah.
766
00:25:39,040 –> 00:25:44,040
I’ve been a competitive swimmer most of my life until recently.
767
00:25:44,040 –> 00:25:45,040
I watch it, okay.
768
00:25:45,040 –> 00:25:49,040
So, my get shirty is people who go in the fast lane
769
00:25:49,040 –> 00:25:50,040
they shouldn’t be in the fast lane.
770
00:25:50,040 –> 00:25:51,040
Right, okay.
771
00:25:51,040 –> 00:25:53,040
And I’m going to say something controversial now.
772
00:25:53,040 –> 00:25:56,040
They’re normally middle-aged men who are in the fast lane.
773
00:25:56,040 –> 00:25:58,040
That shouldn’t be in the fast lane.
774
00:25:58,040 –> 00:26:00,040
And I will get in the fast lane.
775
00:26:00,040 –> 00:26:01,040
Yeah.
776
00:26:01,040 –> 00:26:03,040
And I will swim and they’ll inevitably lap them.
777
00:26:03,040 –> 00:26:04,040
Yeah.
778
00:26:04,040 –> 00:26:08,040
And then they get really shirty that someone has overtaken them.
779
00:26:08,040 –> 00:26:12,040
And sometimes when I train I strap my feet together.
780
00:26:12,040 –> 00:26:13,040
Right.
781
00:26:13,040 –> 00:26:14,040
And put weights on the end.
782
00:26:14,040 –> 00:26:16,040
I rendering my legs useless.
783
00:26:16,040 –> 00:26:17,040
Okay.
784
00:26:17,040 –> 00:26:18,040
To build my arms.
785
00:26:18,040 –> 00:26:21,040
And when I do that, quite often,
786
00:26:21,040 –> 00:26:24,040
those people who’ve got shirty with me being faster than them,
787
00:26:24,040 –> 00:26:26,040
really enjoy the fact that they can lap for me
788
00:26:26,040 –> 00:26:28,040
and be really quite victriolic about it.
789
00:26:28,040 –> 00:26:29,040
Right, I can.
790
00:26:29,040 –> 00:26:30,040
When I’ve rendered half my body useless.
791
00:26:30,040 –> 00:26:31,040
Right, okay.
792
00:26:31,040 –> 00:26:33,040
Just such a hollow victory.
793
00:26:33,040 –> 00:26:34,040
Yeah.
794
00:26:34,040 –> 00:26:37,040
But it’s this sort of unspoken shirtiness within the pool.
795
00:26:37,040 –> 00:26:38,040
Yeah.
796
00:26:38,040 –> 00:26:40,040
That really reminds me of it is.
797
00:26:40,040 –> 00:26:41,040
Yeah.
798
00:26:41,040 –> 00:26:43,040
So there’s a lot, there’s a lot.
799
00:26:43,040 –> 00:26:45,040
Is there a lot to pick there, though?
800
00:26:45,040 –> 00:26:47,040
Well, I think there is, because look, it’s etiquette.
801
00:26:47,040 –> 00:26:48,040
Yeah, is it etiquette?
802
00:26:48,040 –> 00:26:51,040
And they’re not following the agreed etiquette.
803
00:26:51,040 –> 00:26:52,040
Yes.
804
00:26:52,040 –> 00:26:55,040
Which, so there’s a shirty straight off the bat.
805
00:26:55,040 –> 00:26:56,040
Yeah.
806
00:26:56,040 –> 00:27:00,040
That sort of entitlement is in there as well, surely.
807
00:27:00,040 –> 00:27:01,040
Yeah, absolutely.
808
00:27:01,040 –> 00:27:05,040
And then the, well, like the hollow victory is, you say,
809
00:27:05,040 –> 00:27:08,040
that sort of ego, yeah.
810
00:27:08,040 –> 00:27:13,040
I mean, that, look, being a man of a certain age,
811
00:27:13,040 –> 00:27:18,040
it never ceases to amaze me how that sort of male ego,
812
00:27:18,040 –> 00:27:20,040
I mean, is it generally,
813
00:27:20,040 –> 00:27:22,040
and is it the same group of men?
814
00:27:22,040 –> 00:27:24,040
I mean, I don’t recognise that.
815
00:27:24,040 –> 00:27:25,040
Oh, right.
816
00:27:25,040 –> 00:27:26,040
It’s not like me.
817
00:27:26,040 –> 00:27:27,040
It’s like four blocs.
818
00:27:27,040 –> 00:27:28,040
No, no, no.
819
00:27:28,040 –> 00:27:29,040
No, no.
820
00:27:29,040 –> 00:27:30,040
You can almost always spot them.
821
00:27:30,040 –> 00:27:31,040
Right.
822
00:27:31,040 –> 00:27:33,040
And I think it’s because when I come,
823
00:27:33,040 –> 00:27:36,040
I think the great thing about swimming is that people can be excellence swimmers,
824
00:27:36,040 –> 00:27:38,040
but you wouldn’t know it by looking at them until they get in the water.
825
00:27:38,040 –> 00:27:39,040
Right, I think.
826
00:27:39,040 –> 00:27:44,040
And I think a lot of people who perhaps haven’t grown up in the swimming world don’t really know that.
827
00:27:44,040 –> 00:27:48,040
So they will, like, go, all the, you know, the slim muscle bloke is going to be the better swimmer.
828
00:27:48,040 –> 00:27:49,040
Yeah.
829
00:27:49,040 –> 00:27:51,040
I’m like, just watch Jasper.
830
00:27:51,040 –> 00:27:53,040
And I’ll, like, get in the water and I’ll whip him.
831
00:27:53,040 –> 00:27:54,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
832
00:27:54,040 –> 00:27:56,040
And I think it’s, it’s humbling.
833
00:27:56,040 –> 00:27:57,040
Yeah.
834
00:27:57,040 –> 00:27:58,040
Don’t get me wrong.
835
00:27:58,040 –> 00:27:59,040
I’m rubbish at every other sport.
836
00:27:59,040 –> 00:28:00,040
Okay.
837
00:28:00,040 –> 00:28:01,040
And therefore I wouldn’t enter.
838
00:28:01,040 –> 00:28:06,040
I wouldn’t enter myself into the first league of football because I know I’m not good enough for that.
839
00:28:06,040 –> 00:28:07,040
Yeah.
840
00:28:07,040 –> 00:28:11,040
I think it’s just there’s something about swimming where people go fast-ling, yeah, that’s me.
841
00:28:11,040 –> 00:28:12,040
Yeah.
842
00:28:12,040 –> 00:28:13,040
No, it’s not.
843
00:28:13,040 –> 00:28:14,040
No, it’s not.
844
00:28:14,040 –> 00:28:16,040
And no other sport with that exists.
845
00:28:16,040 –> 00:28:22,040
No, yeah, like the football one, you can have somebody run out on the pitch run really slowly in front of the person who’s talking about the ball.
846
00:28:22,040 –> 00:28:25,040
And then turn round and sort of, like, get across of them.
847
00:28:25,040 –> 00:28:27,040
Yeah, same reason I don’t enter myself into Wimbledon.
848
00:28:27,040 –> 00:28:28,040
Yeah.
849
00:28:28,040 –> 00:28:29,040
I’m not of that level.
850
00:28:29,040 –> 00:28:30,040
No.
851
00:28:30,040 –> 00:28:32,040
Yeah, like I said niche, sorry, niche.
852
00:28:32,040 –> 00:28:36,040
No, but I don’t think that’s as niche as, okay.
853
00:28:36,040 –> 00:28:41,040
I would say, I mean, I don’t go to swimming pool particularly.
854
00:28:41,040 –> 00:28:49,040
I’m not a great swimmer, but I know having spoken to other people who do go swimming, the fast lane is a thing.
855
00:28:49,040 –> 00:28:50,040
Yeah.
856
00:28:50,040 –> 00:28:51,040
You know, it’s there for a reason, isn’t it?
857
00:28:51,040 –> 00:28:52,040
Yeah.
858
00:28:52,040 –> 00:28:56,040
It’s not there for, you know, just a general spruce about it.
859
00:28:56,040 –> 00:28:57,040
Yeah.
860
00:28:57,040 –> 00:29:00,040
So, if you’re a breaststroke with your head up, you have no place in the fast lane.
861
00:29:00,040 –> 00:29:01,040
Right.
862
00:29:01,040 –> 00:29:03,040
There’s my controversial take.
863
00:29:03,040 –> 00:29:04,040
Swimming hat?
864
00:29:04,040 –> 00:29:06,040
Yeah, swimming hat goggles, always, for me.
865
00:29:06,040 –> 00:29:08,040
Oh, yeah, it’s a very young, I try to sport video, probably.
866
00:29:08,040 –> 00:29:09,040
Yeah.
867
00:29:09,040 –> 00:29:10,040
Yeah.
868
00:29:10,040 –> 00:29:13,040
It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a strong look.
869
00:29:13,040 –> 00:29:14,040
Yeah.
870
00:29:14,040 –> 00:29:20,040
Yeah, I mean, perhaps, you know, when you get your shirt that we’ve done for your props, you know, you could rock that look.
871
00:29:20,040 –> 00:29:21,040
You could try it.
872
00:29:21,040 –> 00:29:22,040
Yeah, it’s like how you’d have to rock that look.
873
00:29:22,040 –> 00:29:23,040
Yeah.
874
00:29:23,040 –> 00:29:27,040
Yeah, nice, nice linen shirt. I think we haven’t, we’re, we’ll talk about the shirt in a minute, but.
875
00:29:27,040 –> 00:29:32,040
Yeah, I know, I think it is, but it, it, there is an etiquette to it, isn’t it?
876
00:29:32,040 –> 00:29:34,040
And it’s, see, that’s a git shirt.
877
00:29:34,040 –> 00:29:37,040
It’s, on its own, you know, you could have sort of gone with that.
878
00:29:37,040 –> 00:29:39,040
Or if there’s an etiquette, and people don’t follow it.
879
00:29:39,040 –> 00:29:40,040
Yes.
880
00:29:40,040 –> 00:29:41,040
Yeah, I think that’s a universal, isn’t it?
881
00:29:41,040 –> 00:29:42,040
Yeah.
882
00:29:42,040 –> 00:29:49,040
And also, just, not be humble that I hate that phrase, but just like, I think just owning where your strengths are, maybe,
883
00:29:49,040 –> 00:29:53,040
or they’re not as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People could be better than you at things.
884
00:29:53,040 –> 00:29:54,040
And that’s okay.
885
00:29:54,040 –> 00:29:55,040
Yeah, and that’s okay.
886
00:29:55,040 –> 00:29:59,040
People are better than me at absolutely everything, but sometimes I’m better than you in the pool.
887
00:29:59,040 –> 00:30:00,040
And that’s all right.
888
00:30:00,040 –> 00:30:02,040
And you’ve got your own lanes over there.
889
00:30:02,040 –> 00:30:03,040
Yeah.
890
00:30:03,040 –> 00:30:05,040
This is the lane where I can, yeah, swim fast.
891
00:30:05,040 –> 00:30:08,040
Yeah, actually, swim up and down without going in the fast lane.
892
00:30:08,040 –> 00:30:09,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
893
00:30:09,040 –> 00:30:10,040
Yeah, yeah.
894
00:30:10,040 –> 00:30:15,040
I tell you where it’s really good is Pell’s Paul in Lewis, which is beautiful, I do.
895
00:30:15,040 –> 00:30:16,040
Lovely, cold.
896
00:30:16,040 –> 00:30:17,040
Right.
897
00:30:17,040 –> 00:30:23,040
And when I go there, I do not go anywhere near that fast lane because I know the people who use that Paul, they’re serious people.
898
00:30:23,040 –> 00:30:24,040
Right, okay.
899
00:30:24,040 –> 00:30:26,040
Because it’s a 50 meter pool, it’s outdoors and it’s not heated.
900
00:30:26,040 –> 00:30:29,040
So the people that are in that pool are there to swim.
901
00:30:29,040 –> 00:30:30,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
902
00:30:30,040 –> 00:30:31,040
And don’t properly.
903
00:30:31,040 –> 00:30:33,040
So yeah, I wouldn’t dare venture into a fast lane there.
904
00:30:33,040 –> 00:30:34,040
Yeah.
905
00:30:34,040 –> 00:30:36,040
I’ll go down to medium, possibly even slower if I’m having a lazy day.
906
00:30:36,040 –> 00:30:37,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
907
00:30:37,040 –> 00:30:39,040
Just knowing, knowing your pace.
908
00:30:39,040 –> 00:30:40,040
Yeah, yeah, that’s good.
909
00:30:40,040 –> 00:30:42,040
So all the expand on your shirt, yeah?
910
00:30:42,040 –> 00:30:43,040
Okay, go on.
911
00:30:43,040 –> 00:30:44,040
Different perspective.
912
00:30:44,040 –> 00:30:45,040
Yeah.
913
00:30:45,040 –> 00:30:46,040
It’s the other way around.
914
00:30:46,040 –> 00:30:51,040
It’s people who are in the recreation side who should be over in the ladies.
915
00:30:51,040 –> 00:30:52,040
Oh, okay.
916
00:30:52,040 –> 00:30:54,040
Oh, it’s controversial, but I get it.
917
00:30:54,040 –> 00:30:55,040
Because I can’t swim.
918
00:30:55,040 –> 00:30:56,040
Okay.
919
00:30:56,040 –> 00:30:59,040
I’m learning to, my wife’s a swim instructor.
920
00:30:59,040 –> 00:31:02,040
So a few years ago, she was teaching me to swim.
921
00:31:02,040 –> 00:31:08,040
I was learning to swim and of course people that should have been over there swimming, were getting annoyed at me because of my friends.
922
00:31:08,040 –> 00:31:10,040
Oh, yeah, that’s not fair either.
923
00:31:10,040 –> 00:31:11,040
It’s both enough having the children go.
924
00:31:11,040 –> 00:31:15,040
Why is that man got all those noodles around him, daddy?
925
00:31:15,040 –> 00:31:16,040
There you go.
926
00:31:16,040 –> 00:31:17,040
I feel like bad luck.
927
00:31:17,040 –> 00:31:20,040
When you’ve got people who can swim, get out of the way.
928
00:31:20,040 –> 00:31:22,040
Yeah, there’s a space for you.
929
00:31:22,040 –> 00:31:23,040
Yeah, as much as you like.
930
00:31:23,040 –> 00:31:24,040
Yeah.
931
00:31:24,040 –> 00:31:25,040
So it wasn’t both places.
932
00:31:25,040 –> 00:31:26,040
It’s 100% does.
933
00:31:26,040 –> 00:31:27,040
Yeah.
934
00:31:27,040 –> 00:31:28,040
Yeah.
935
00:31:28,040 –> 00:31:33,040
And, and Jessica, you know, that’s, that’s poor Jessica, either way, isn’t it?
936
00:31:33,040 –> 00:31:34,040
Yeah.
937
00:31:34,040 –> 00:31:35,040
Yeah.
938
00:31:35,040 –> 00:31:38,040
See, I need the sink lane, I think, is the lane.
939
00:31:38,040 –> 00:31:40,040
Just getting, go straight down.
940
00:31:40,040 –> 00:31:43,040
Or the diving pit basically, just found at the bottom somewhere.
941
00:31:43,040 –> 00:31:45,040
Or a lane that goes width ways.
942
00:31:45,040 –> 00:31:49,040
Yeah, but, yeah, I do a width and I’m a bit tuckered out.
943
00:31:49,040 –> 00:31:51,040
I have a little sit on the side.
944
00:31:51,040 –> 00:31:53,040
Oh, that Jacuzzi looks quite nice over there.
945
00:31:53,040 –> 00:31:54,040
I’ll go there.
946
00:31:54,040 –> 00:31:55,040
Yeah.
947
00:31:55,040 –> 00:32:02,040
I do think swimming is really humbling because I used to trade loads and therefore could get in and not get puffed out for a long time.
948
00:32:02,040 –> 00:32:09,040
And then we went away recently and I did a couple of lengths and I’m like, oh, very quickly lose that stamina
949
00:32:09,040 –> 00:32:11,040
and after a couple of lengths, I’m blowing out my ass.
950
00:32:11,040 –> 00:32:18,040
So, I think it, unless you do it a lot, I think it’s a necklace walk because it’s a full body workout.
951
00:32:18,040 –> 00:32:24,040
It’s, you know, it’s cardio, but using every muscle in your body at the same time, which is why they always recommend it as being a great exercise.
952
00:32:24,040 –> 00:32:25,040
Yeah, yeah.
953
00:32:25,040 –> 00:32:26,040
Because it’s tough, but good.
954
00:32:26,040 –> 00:32:27,040
And disciplined.
955
00:32:27,040 –> 00:32:31,040
You know, I could, I’m not very good at that and breathe.
956
00:32:31,040 –> 00:32:32,040
Yeah.
957
00:32:32,040 –> 00:32:33,040
Breathe now.
958
00:32:33,040 –> 00:32:35,040
How much should I leave it for or five?
959
00:32:35,040 –> 00:32:43,040
I should, I’d be doing it every single time. That’s sort of side-breathing and then I drink a load of water and then it puts me off of it.
960
00:32:43,040 –> 00:32:44,040
Maybe strong.
961
00:32:44,040 –> 00:32:46,040
Front call or fly.
962
00:32:46,040 –> 00:32:47,040
I used to complete fly.
963
00:32:47,040 –> 00:32:49,040
So, I used to look at it.
964
00:32:49,040 –> 00:32:50,040
Yeah.
965
00:32:50,040 –> 00:32:52,040
If it’s done well, I’m not sure I do do it well.
966
00:32:52,040 –> 00:32:55,040
There’s some of the I know who used to always be in the same swimming category as me.
967
00:32:55,040 –> 00:33:01,040
And every competition we went to from the ages of, like, I took that I competed from the age of like 11.
968
00:33:01,040 –> 00:33:02,040
Right.
969
00:33:02,040 –> 00:33:03,040
All the way up to mid-30s.
970
00:33:03,040 –> 00:33:04,040
Right.
971
00:33:04,040 –> 00:33:11,040
With a gap in the middle, but she was always in my age category and she was the most beautiful swimmer that,
972
00:33:11,040 –> 00:33:17,040
and whenever she would go to any competition around the country, when she got in water, everybody stopped and watched.
973
00:33:17,040 –> 00:33:18,040
Right.
974
00:33:18,040 –> 00:33:19,040
It was majestic.
975
00:33:19,040 –> 00:33:21,040
It was like a dolphin meets human.
976
00:33:21,040 –> 00:33:22,040
Right.
977
00:33:22,040 –> 00:33:25,040
And you know, you’re like, we’re doing the same stroke, but why do I not look like that?
978
00:33:25,040 –> 00:33:27,040
And she, yeah, and she always beat me.
979
00:33:27,040 –> 00:33:30,040
Like, the one year that she didn’t compete with my year and I got a medal.
980
00:33:30,040 –> 00:33:32,040
And every other time she was just always, yeah.
981
00:33:32,040 –> 00:33:33,040
Yeah.
982
00:33:33,040 –> 00:33:36,040
It was really better than me, but yeah, when people can do it well, it is so impressive.
983
00:33:36,040 –> 00:33:43,040
Yeah, it’s that sort of natural, I don’t know, I suppose, it’s that fluidity.
984
00:33:43,040 –> 00:33:44,040
Yeah.
985
00:33:44,040 –> 00:33:49,040
But I find that with people like, when I see people running and they make it look really easy, when I run, no.
986
00:33:49,040 –> 00:33:50,040
Yeah.
987
00:33:50,040 –> 00:33:51,040
And it doesn’t look like that.
988
00:33:51,040 –> 00:33:52,040
But it’s the same thing.
989
00:33:52,040 –> 00:33:55,040
We’re both putting one leg in front of the other, so why don’t I look exactly like that?
990
00:33:55,040 –> 00:33:58,040
When my husband, Matt, he’s very tall, very long, natural runner.
991
00:33:58,040 –> 00:34:04,040
We did the Brighton Marathon together years ago and I’m not a runner, it’s not something I enjoy, but I just wanted to have done a marathon.
992
00:34:04,040 –> 00:34:05,040
Yeah.
993
00:34:05,040 –> 00:34:06,040
And for the first three miles, bless him.
994
00:34:06,040 –> 00:34:09,040
He stayed with me, he sort of matched my pace.
995
00:34:09,040 –> 00:34:10,040
Yeah.
996
00:34:10,040 –> 00:34:13,040
And then after a couple of miles, I sort of looked at him and I was like, go on then.
997
00:34:13,040 –> 00:34:17,040
And he sort of like opened up his gate, like he’s like the BFG.
998
00:34:17,040 –> 00:34:22,040
Yeah, just he strides, like one of his strides is like three of my plottons.
999
00:34:22,040 –> 00:34:23,040
Yeah.
1000
00:34:23,040 –> 00:34:25,040
And he took off like a spring ball.
1001
00:34:25,040 –> 00:34:26,040
Yeah.
1002
00:34:26,040 –> 00:34:31,040
And then he took off for 26.4 miles, and he just opened up and he was gone.
1003
00:34:31,040 –> 00:34:35,040
I was like, I suppose, is that it, then physiology, do you think?
1004
00:34:35,040 –> 00:34:36,040
I think so, definitely.
1005
00:34:36,040 –> 00:34:38,040
And also how much you do it.
1006
00:34:38,040 –> 00:34:39,040
Yeah.
1007
00:34:39,040 –> 00:34:41,040
There was practice.
1008
00:34:41,040 –> 00:34:45,040
And you enjoyed, so when you competed, was that sort of nationwide, did you go?
1009
00:34:45,040 –> 00:34:48,040
Yeah, I mean, I was never that committed.
1010
00:34:48,040 –> 00:34:51,040
There was people who used to do nationals and I never got to nationals.
1011
00:34:51,040 –> 00:34:53,040
I used to do counties.
1012
00:34:53,040 –> 00:34:54,040
Okay.
1013
00:34:54,040 –> 00:34:57,040
So was that getting up at five in the morning, going training before school?
1014
00:34:57,040 –> 00:34:59,040
That’s what it should have been.
1015
00:34:59,040 –> 00:35:00,040
I did it for a while.
1016
00:35:00,040 –> 00:35:02,040
And then I would only train twice a week.
1017
00:35:02,040 –> 00:35:03,040
Right.
1018
00:35:03,040 –> 00:35:07,040
The people who took it really seriously would do three or four mornings before school.
1019
00:35:07,040 –> 00:35:09,040
And then the same training sessions in the after school.
1020
00:35:09,040 –> 00:35:14,040
I just, I was into boys, so I didn’t really like took too much time, you know?
1021
00:35:14,040 –> 00:35:15,040
Yeah.
1022
00:35:15,040 –> 00:35:18,040
But it was definitely, definitely my sport.
1023
00:35:18,040 –> 00:35:19,040
Yeah.
1024
00:35:19,040 –> 00:35:20,040
But I was just never that committed.
1025
00:35:20,040 –> 00:35:22,040
That’s the difference, isn’t it?
1026
00:35:22,040 –> 00:35:23,040
Yeah.
1027
00:35:23,040 –> 00:35:28,040
Yeah, I suppose it is, but and the love of it.
1028
00:35:28,040 –> 00:35:29,040
Yeah.
1029
00:35:29,040 –> 00:35:30,040
Sometimes you can really like something.
1030
00:35:30,040 –> 00:35:31,040
Yeah.
1031
00:35:31,040 –> 00:35:32,040
Go, yeah, enjoy doing this.
1032
00:35:32,040 –> 00:35:34,040
And then sometimes you go, actually, I love this.
1033
00:35:34,040 –> 00:35:35,040
Yeah.
1034
00:35:35,040 –> 00:35:36,040
And I don’t want to do anything else.
1035
00:35:36,040 –> 00:35:37,040
Yeah.
1036
00:35:37,040 –> 00:35:38,040
I never reached that point.
1037
00:35:38,040 –> 00:35:43,040
I think a lot of mine was driven by the fact that my coach from the age of four, a guy called Ted,
1038
00:35:43,040 –> 00:35:45,040
he was the same coach until I was 34.
1039
00:35:45,040 –> 00:35:46,040
Right.
1040
00:35:46,040 –> 00:35:48,040
And so when he retired, I was like, do you know what?
1041
00:35:48,040 –> 00:35:49,040
It was, it was him.
1042
00:35:49,040 –> 00:35:50,040
Yeah.
1043
00:35:50,040 –> 00:35:51,040
That was the driver.
1044
00:35:51,040 –> 00:35:53,040
And when he retired, I retired.
1045
00:35:53,040 –> 00:35:54,040
I retired.
1046
00:35:54,040 –> 00:35:55,040
I retired.
1047
00:35:55,040 –> 00:35:56,040
I retired.
1048
00:35:56,040 –> 00:35:57,040
I retired.
1049
00:35:57,040 –> 00:35:58,040
I retired.
1050
00:35:58,040 –> 00:35:59,040
I retired.
1051
00:35:59,040 –> 00:36:00,040
I retired.
1052
00:36:00,040 –> 00:36:01,040
I retired.
1053
00:36:01,040 –> 00:36:02,040
I retired.
1054
00:36:02,040 –> 00:36:03,040
I retired.
1055
00:36:03,040 –> 00:36:04,040
I retired.
1056
00:36:04,040 –> 00:36:05,040
I retired.
1057
00:36:05,040 –> 00:36:06,040
I retired.
1058
00:36:06,040 –> 00:36:07,040
I retired.
1059
00:36:07,040 –> 00:36:07,040
I retired.
1060
00:36:07,040 –> 00:36:08,040
I retired.
1061
00:36:08,040 –> 00:36:09,040
I retired.
1062
00:36:09,040 –> 00:36:10,040
I retired.
1063
00:36:10,040 –> 00:36:11,040
I retired.
1064
00:36:11,040 –> 00:36:12,040
But, yeah, I think, yeah, it’s whether it’s a vocation or a passion.
1065
00:36:12,040 –> 00:36:13,040
Yeah.
1066
00:36:13,040 –> 00:36:14,040
And it was the passion.
1067
00:36:14,040 –> 00:36:15,040
Yeah.
1068
00:36:15,040 –> 00:36:16,040
That was sinkley word, yeah.
1069
00:36:16,040 –> 00:36:17,040
Well done.
1070
00:36:17,040 –> 00:36:20,040
Once again, showing, showing why you are the professional journalist.
1071
00:36:20,040 –> 00:36:21,040
Yeah.
1072
00:36:21,040 –> 00:36:22,040
You’ve heard about the shirt that we’re doing for you.
1073
00:36:22,040 –> 00:36:23,040
You’ve heard about it.
1074
00:36:23,040 –> 00:36:24,040
Yeah.
1075
00:36:24,040 –> 00:36:25,040
You’ve heard about it.
1076
00:36:25,040 –> 00:36:27,040
Actually, it’s a little bit different because this is a linen.
1077
00:36:27,040 –> 00:36:28,040
Yeah.
1078
00:36:28,040 –> 00:36:29,040
This is, I think, in the podcast.
1079
00:36:29,040 –> 00:36:31,040
This is our first linen, isn’t it?
1080
00:36:31,040 –> 00:36:32,040
Oh, good.
1081
00:36:32,040 –> 00:36:33,040
Oh, good.
1082
00:36:33,040 –> 00:36:34,040
Okay.
1083
00:36:34,040 –> 00:36:35,040
You’re breaking the mold.
1084
00:36:35,040 –> 00:36:36,040
Yes.
1085
00:36:36,040 –> 00:36:39,040
Well, I don’t have formal wear on any real need for formal wear.
1086
00:36:39,040 –> 00:36:40,040
Yeah.
1087
00:36:40,040 –> 00:36:44,040
And therefore, linen shirts, that’s the vibe, I think.
1088
00:36:44,040 –> 00:36:45,040
Yeah.
1089
00:36:45,040 –> 00:36:46,040
I’m excited to see.
1090
00:36:46,040 –> 00:36:47,040
Yeah.
1091
00:36:47,040 –> 00:36:49,040
And did you enjoy the process of doing it?
1092
00:36:49,040 –> 00:36:49,040
Yeah.
1093
00:36:49,040 –> 00:36:50,040
Yeah.
1094
00:36:50,040 –> 00:36:51,040
It’s interesting.
1095
00:36:51,040 –> 00:36:53,040
It sounds very obvious.
1096
00:36:53,040 –> 00:36:54,040
It’s sat here in a tailor’s shop.
1097
00:36:54,040 –> 00:36:59,040
But the process of going out and buying clothes, you never break it down into the components.
1098
00:36:59,040 –> 00:37:00,040
Yeah.
1099
00:37:00,040 –> 00:37:03,040
And obviously going through the components of the, you know, the cuff, the sleeve, the this,
1100
00:37:03,040 –> 00:37:04,040
the that.
1101
00:37:04,040 –> 00:37:05,040
Yeah.
1102
00:37:05,040 –> 00:37:06,040
And like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
1103
00:37:06,040 –> 00:37:07,040
Yeah.
1104
00:37:07,040 –> 00:37:11,040
Whereas when you go to a shop and buy something off the shelf, you don’t ever look at it in that context.
1105
00:37:11,040 –> 00:37:12,040
No.
1106
00:37:12,040 –> 00:37:13,040
It’s funny, actually.
1107
00:37:13,040 –> 00:37:20,040
So, that’s something I say to customers here. It’s like it buying a tailored garment is about
1108
00:37:20,040 –> 00:37:25,040
the building up the relationship, you know, to the person who’s tailoring it for you, but also
1109
00:37:25,040 –> 00:37:29,040
to the garment itself, buying something from a clothes shop is a transaction.
1110
00:37:29,040 –> 00:37:31,040
And there are different things.
1111
00:37:31,040 –> 00:37:36,040
You know, you’re looking for the choice that’s there and going, that suits me.
1112
00:37:36,040 –> 00:37:39,040
That’s as close to what I can get that’s in my head.
1113
00:37:39,040 –> 00:37:40,040
Yeah.
1114
00:37:40,040 –> 00:37:41,040
And I’ve just gone by it.
1115
00:37:41,040 –> 00:37:48,040
Yeah, there is no relationship to, or even having to think beyond the, what choice is there,
1116
00:37:48,040 –> 00:37:54,040
you know, like you’re choosing from a preset menu and you might not sort of, you know, quite
1117
00:37:54,040 –> 00:37:55,040
want that for dinner.
1118
00:37:55,040 –> 00:37:59,040
You might want this bit, you know, most potatoes instead of chips, you know.
1119
00:37:59,040 –> 00:38:00,040
Yeah.
1120
00:38:00,040 –> 00:38:05,040
I think it’s a real, but it’s like a real privilege to have something made for you like that.
1121
00:38:05,040 –> 00:38:09,040
Like I think not saying, I just think it’s a, it’s a luxury, not a luxury.
1122
00:38:09,040 –> 00:38:11,040
I mean, you think all the wrong adjectives are there.
1123
00:38:11,040 –> 00:38:12,040
No, but you’re right.
1124
00:38:12,040 –> 00:38:17,040
You know, like that’s a lovely experience to have something that you know is made for you,
1125
00:38:17,040 –> 00:38:19,040
which is not commonplace.
1126
00:38:19,040 –> 00:38:20,040
Yeah.
1127
00:38:20,040 –> 00:38:21,040
That’s not your everyday on the whole, is it?
1128
00:38:21,040 –> 00:38:22,040
I wish it was.
1129
00:38:22,040 –> 00:38:23,040
Yeah.
1130
00:38:23,040 –> 00:38:24,040
I wish it was.
1131
00:38:24,040 –> 00:38:25,040
Yeah.
1132
00:38:25,040 –> 00:38:26,040
But it’s not.
1133
00:38:26,040 –> 00:38:27,040
So it’s, yeah, it was a lovely experience to kind of go through.
1134
00:38:27,040 –> 00:38:29,040
It’s a bit like a house.
1135
00:38:29,040 –> 00:38:30,040
A house.
1136
00:38:30,040 –> 00:38:31,040
Yeah.
1137
00:38:31,040 –> 00:38:32,040
A little waste of your issue.
1138
00:38:32,040 –> 00:38:33,040
Yeah, there we are.
1139
00:38:33,040 –> 00:38:34,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s it.
1140
00:38:34,040 –> 00:38:39,040
It’s a way, and it is like a house, isn’t it? You know, you’re building your own property,
1141
00:38:39,040 –> 00:38:41,040
which is how you want it to be.
1142
00:38:41,040 –> 00:38:42,040
Yeah, exactly.
1143
00:38:42,040 –> 00:38:44,040
You know, and you’ve got to consider everything.
1144
00:38:44,040 –> 00:38:48,040
And, you know, sometimes there might be a compromise because of cost price, you know,
1145
00:38:48,040 –> 00:38:49,040
same Italian, really.
1146
00:38:49,040 –> 00:38:50,040
Yeah.
1147
00:38:50,040 –> 00:38:54,040
You know, but the most, as we were saying before, we started recording the most expensive thing,
1148
00:38:54,040 –> 00:38:56,040
might not be the right thing for you.
1149
00:38:56,040 –> 00:38:57,040
Yeah.
1150
00:38:57,040 –> 00:38:58,040
You know, what do you want it for?
1151
00:38:58,040 –> 00:38:59,040
How often are you going to wear it?
1152
00:38:59,040 –> 00:39:00,040
Yeah.
1153
00:39:00,040 –> 00:39:03,040
And, you know, how hard wearing do you need it to be?
1154
00:39:03,040 –> 00:39:10,040
You know, if you’re building a house factory and in family life is a lot different to building
1155
00:39:10,040 –> 00:39:14,040
a house if you’re, you know, just a person living on your own or a couple, you’ve got factory
1156
00:39:14,040 –> 00:39:15,040
and pets or kids or this.
1157
00:39:15,040 –> 00:39:16,040
Yeah.
1158
00:39:16,040 –> 00:39:18,040
You know, you’ve requirements for it a different way.
1159
00:39:18,040 –> 00:39:24,040
And then, like you say, layering in that budget, you know, if your budget was endless, would
1160
00:39:24,040 –> 00:39:25,040
I be digging my own trenches?
1161
00:39:25,040 –> 00:39:26,040
Absolutely.
1162
00:39:26,040 –> 00:39:27,040
I know why I wouldn’t.
1163
00:39:27,040 –> 00:39:30,040
So, it’s all about that push and pull, isn’t it?
1164
00:39:30,040 –> 00:39:31,040
Yeah.
1165
00:39:31,040 –> 00:39:33,040
And then, you know, you need versus what you can do.
1166
00:39:33,040 –> 00:39:34,040
Yeah.
1167
00:39:34,040 –> 00:39:35,040
Yeah, it is.
1168
00:39:35,040 –> 00:39:37,040
And I think, I think, tailoring is good, like, it’s good.
1169
00:39:37,040 –> 00:39:38,040
Yeah.
1170
00:39:38,040 –> 00:39:40,040
So, if you’d never had anything made for you before?
1171
00:39:40,040 –> 00:39:41,040
No.
1172
00:39:41,040 –> 00:39:42,040
Apart from our wedding dress.
1173
00:39:42,040 –> 00:39:43,040
Right.
1174
00:39:43,040 –> 00:39:44,040
Okay.
1175
00:39:44,040 –> 00:39:47,040
Which I sort of designed on the back of thatkin, because I couldn’t find anything that I liked
1176
00:39:47,040 –> 00:39:53,040
and thought that it was all too fussy and too expensive, frankly, for something I’d wear
1177
00:39:53,040 –> 00:39:54,040
once.
1178
00:39:54,040 –> 00:39:55,040
Yeah.
1179
00:39:55,040 –> 00:39:59,040
So, yeah, I had an idea in my head of what I wanted the shape to be and then I took it to
1180
00:39:59,040 –> 00:40:00,040
a woman who made it.
1181
00:40:00,040 –> 00:40:01,040
Yeah.
1182
00:40:01,040 –> 00:40:03,040
So, that’s the only piece that I’ve ever had made for me.
1183
00:40:03,040 –> 00:40:04,040
Yeah.
1184
00:40:04,040 –> 00:40:05,040
A great piece I’ve made, though.
1185
00:40:05,040 –> 00:40:06,040
Yeah, it was.
1186
00:40:06,040 –> 00:40:11,120
And infinitely, you ended up being infinitely cheaper than buying something that somebody else
1187
00:40:11,120 –> 00:40:14,040
has designed, but then you need to tailor it to you.
1188
00:40:14,040 –> 00:40:15,040
Yeah.
1189
00:40:15,040 –> 00:40:16,040
So, yeah.
1190
00:40:16,040 –> 00:40:17,040
It’s funny.
1191
00:40:17,040 –> 00:40:21,640
I think one of the things that she, I’ll be interested in your views on this, if you went,
1192
00:40:21,640 –> 00:40:22,640
did you go wedding dress shopping?
1193
00:40:22,640 –> 00:40:23,640
Yeah.
1194
00:40:23,640 –> 00:40:24,640
Did you go and have a look?
1195
00:40:24,640 –> 00:40:25,640
I hated it, yeah.
1196
00:40:25,640 –> 00:40:32,640
I think a lot of what the wedding, the bride’s market is about is about selling that experience
1197
00:40:32,640 –> 00:40:35,640
rather than the dress itself.
1198
00:40:35,640 –> 00:40:36,640
Yeah.
1199
00:40:36,640 –> 00:40:39,720
You know, it’s about, oh, you need to go looking for your perfect dress.
1200
00:40:39,720 –> 00:40:42,480
The perfect dress is out there somewhere and you can find it.
1201
00:40:42,480 –> 00:40:43,480
Yeah.
1202
00:40:43,480 –> 00:40:45,840
You just got to go to this place and sit down and have a glass of champagne and blah, blah, blah.
1203
00:40:45,840 –> 00:40:51,400
And it should be a lovely experience, but it’s about the search rather than about the,
1204
00:40:51,400 –> 00:40:52,400
the what you want.
1205
00:40:52,400 –> 00:40:53,400
Yeah.
1206
00:40:53,400 –> 00:40:55,400
You know, it’s about sort of matching.
1207
00:40:55,400 –> 00:40:56,400
Yeah.
1208
00:40:56,400 –> 00:41:00,400
It’s about the self to something that’s there, which I think, I think the groom side of things
1209
00:41:00,400 –> 00:41:03,400
gets, is a slightly better deal from that point of the day.
1210
00:41:03,400 –> 00:41:04,400
I totally agree.
1211
00:41:04,400 –> 00:41:08,840
I think men can go into it knowing, because quite often men wear suits at some point in their
1212
00:41:08,840 –> 00:41:09,840
life.
1213
00:41:09,840 –> 00:41:10,840
Yeah.
1214
00:41:10,840 –> 00:41:11,840
So, they have an understanding of what they like in a suit.
1215
00:41:11,840 –> 00:41:12,840
Yeah.
1216
00:41:12,840 –> 00:41:16,480
And then that’s their opportunity to go and be like, you know, I know I like this style and
1217
00:41:16,480 –> 00:41:20,880
I’d like it in this colour and I think it’s probably a bit more, if they’re into it,
1218
00:41:20,880 –> 00:41:21,880
a bit more fun.
1219
00:41:21,880 –> 00:41:23,800
Whereas I found shopping for a wedding dress.
1220
00:41:23,800 –> 00:41:24,800
I honestly hated it.
1221
00:41:24,800 –> 00:41:30,640
Like, at the expectation put upon you to have a moment where you cry and everyone’s like,
1222
00:41:30,640 –> 00:41:31,640
oh, it’s red, isn’t it?
1223
00:41:31,640 –> 00:41:32,640
You know what I’m saying?
1224
00:41:32,640 –> 00:41:33,640
Never had that.
1225
00:41:33,640 –> 00:41:34,640
Never had that.
1226
00:41:34,640 –> 00:41:38,880
And if I was called Princess one more time, I tell you, we’re going above shirtty now.
1227
00:41:38,880 –> 00:41:39,880
I’m like, but, he’s off.
1228
00:41:39,880 –> 00:41:40,880
Gone, gone.
1229
00:41:40,880 –> 00:41:41,880
I’m a full grown woman.
1230
00:41:41,880 –> 00:41:42,880
Gone it out, gone it out.
1231
00:41:42,880 –> 00:41:43,880
So you’re not calling me a Princess?
1232
00:41:43,880 –> 00:41:44,880
No.
1233
00:41:44,880 –> 00:41:45,880
Yeah.
1234
00:41:45,880 –> 00:41:48,880
And also Princess for £3,000.
1235
00:41:48,880 –> 00:41:49,880
Like, just jargon.
1236
00:41:49,880 –> 00:41:50,880
Oh, really?
1237
00:41:50,880 –> 00:41:54,800
No, some people absolutely loved it, but I felt like I was playing dress up.
1238
00:41:54,800 –> 00:41:57,400
Nothing felt authentic to me.
1239
00:41:57,400 –> 00:42:01,960
Like, why do I need to lose every sense of my personal style because it’s my wedding
1240
00:42:01,960 –> 00:42:02,960
day?
1241
00:42:02,960 –> 00:42:09,560
I would never wear a beaded chiffon, so why am I suddenly wearing it on this day?
1242
00:42:09,560 –> 00:42:13,440
And it felt really inauthentic to me.
1243
00:42:13,440 –> 00:42:17,440
And therefore, yeah, it felt, you know, I hated it, I hated it.
1244
00:42:17,440 –> 00:42:18,440
And that’s why we went down this.
1245
00:42:18,440 –> 00:42:20,520
People were like, it’s a dress.
1246
00:42:20,520 –> 00:42:22,200
Let’s take it back to what it is.
1247
00:42:22,200 –> 00:42:23,200
It’s a dress.
1248
00:42:23,200 –> 00:42:27,120
So I just went to Harvey Knicks, I think, and tried on loads of dresses.
1249
00:42:27,120 –> 00:42:28,120
Just dresses, not wedding dresses.
1250
00:42:28,120 –> 00:42:30,160
And I was like, what shapes do I like?
1251
00:42:30,160 –> 00:42:31,160
Yeah.
1252
00:42:31,160 –> 00:42:32,160
And what fits do I like?
1253
00:42:32,160 –> 00:42:33,160
And just made a mental note of that.
1254
00:42:33,160 –> 00:42:36,440
And then went home, I was like, okay, I want it nipped in here, I want it out here.
1255
00:42:36,440 –> 00:42:39,040
And then bought some cheap material and had it made.
1256
00:42:39,040 –> 00:42:40,040
Yeah.
1257
00:42:40,040 –> 00:42:43,320
Because that felt way more me than having something else.
1258
00:42:43,320 –> 00:42:45,080
Yeah, that I would never normally wear.
1259
00:42:45,080 –> 00:42:46,080
Yeah.
1260
00:42:46,080 –> 00:42:51,520
And then there’s a funny thing too, and I find this a lot talking to, you know, the sort
1261
00:42:51,520 –> 00:42:57,480
of future couples, future married couples here is that, and I felt it, as well getting married,
1262
00:42:57,480 –> 00:43:05,560
and it’s, there is a certain amount of conformity to the experience should be this.
1263
00:43:05,560 –> 00:43:08,360
And these people should always be invited.
1264
00:43:08,360 –> 00:43:13,120
And you’ve got to have this, you know, it’s like, there’s a tick box thing that you’ve got
1265
00:43:13,120 –> 00:43:24,920
to go through and, all right, so now it’s time for the, okay.
1266
00:43:24,920 –> 00:43:30,640
Steve, would you like me to go through the explanation?
1267
00:43:30,640 –> 00:43:34,040
So do you want a short one?
1268
00:43:34,040 –> 00:43:35,520
Steve likes the long explanation.
1269
00:43:35,520 –> 00:43:43,040
So this hat, so we had the idea of having off the cuff question.
1270
00:43:43,040 –> 00:43:48,160
Ha ha, look, there’s a great pun off the cuff and it works, you know, so you don’t know
1271
00:43:48,160 –> 00:43:49,880
what this get shirt is going to be about.
1272
00:43:49,880 –> 00:43:51,120
Oh God, the pressure.
1273
00:43:51,120 –> 00:43:57,440
But then we were like, we’ve got all the options, all the different things, they off the cuff
1274
00:43:57,440 –> 00:44:03,320
questions, but how do we get those to the person who’s, who’s got to pick one?
1275
00:44:03,320 –> 00:44:04,320
Yeah.
1276
00:44:04,320 –> 00:44:07,600
Well, we’ll put them in there, bowl of hat, that would be great, but then it doesn’t work
1277
00:44:07,600 –> 00:44:10,960
with the pun anymore because they’re out of hat.
1278
00:44:10,960 –> 00:44:15,920
And Buckston said when, because he was the first person we did it with and we just quickly
1279
00:44:15,920 –> 00:44:19,120
put them in a hat, he said, well, you could pin them to a shirt cuff.
1280
00:44:19,120 –> 00:44:24,280
That didn’t feel right, but it works with, because they’re off the cuff, but we were like,
1281
00:44:24,280 –> 00:44:28,440
now we put them in the bowl of hat and it became such a thing talking to him about it and
1282
00:44:28,440 –> 00:44:33,760
every podcast since then, I’ve had to do this explanation is to why they’re in a hat.
1283
00:44:33,760 –> 00:44:38,000
Sam once said, the explanation drops, she likes the explanation because it comes out different
1284
00:44:38,000 –> 00:44:39,000
every time.
1285
00:44:39,000 –> 00:44:44,080
So, off the cuff, hatty cuff, out of a hatty cuff question.
1286
00:44:44,080 –> 00:44:46,280
Hatty cuff question, sure, rolls off the top.
1287
00:44:46,280 –> 00:44:54,560
So, feel free to, we’ve had lots of different theories actually, Alex, yeah, what, yeah.
1288
00:44:54,560 –> 00:44:56,560
Off the teddy bears.
1289
00:44:56,560 –> 00:44:59,600
Yeah, yeah, and what did Alex Hall say?
1290
00:44:59,600 –> 00:45:02,400
He came up with a few, didn’t he?
1291
00:45:02,400 –> 00:45:04,840
Collard, you’ve been collard or something and there was a, so.
1292
00:45:04,840 –> 00:45:08,120
I love that, it’s a few that have said to me, it’s an off the cuff question and had to
1293
00:45:08,120 –> 00:45:09,760
be a bowl of hat, I would not question it.
1294
00:45:09,760 –> 00:45:11,760
Questioned it, or thought about it.
1295
00:45:11,760 –> 00:45:14,440
No, and probably most people would know.
1296
00:45:14,440 –> 00:45:15,440
No, probably not.
1297
00:45:15,440 –> 00:45:17,440
But, here we are.
1298
00:45:17,440 –> 00:45:18,440
Here we are.
1299
00:45:18,440 –> 00:45:20,640
Yeah, so go for it, let’s.
1300
00:45:20,640 –> 00:45:21,640
Okay.
1301
00:45:21,640 –> 00:45:23,560
The hatty cuff question.
1302
00:45:23,560 –> 00:45:24,560
Off the cuff.
1303
00:45:24,560 –> 00:45:25,560
Oh, chores.
1304
00:45:25,560 –> 00:45:26,560
Chores, alright.
1305
00:45:26,560 –> 00:45:28,960
Okay, so what gets me sure to be about chores?
1306
00:45:28,960 –> 00:45:29,960
Yeah, yeah.
1307
00:45:29,960 –> 00:45:34,760
Okay, I’d like to preface this by saying, I love my husband very much.
1308
00:45:34,760 –> 00:45:47,200
We love your husband, he’s a lovely chap.
1309
00:45:47,200 –> 00:45:52,480
But, he’s very good at chores, though, there is no beef there.
1310
00:45:52,480 –> 00:45:56,840
What my beef is is how he does the chores versus how I do the chores.
1311
00:45:56,840 –> 00:46:04,280
And the example of this is, and this is again, like really nichey, but when we fold, like
1312
00:46:04,280 –> 00:46:08,960
I have all the kids school clothes, like, what roll out drawer.
1313
00:46:08,960 –> 00:46:12,560
Do you know, I was about to say, I’ve got a prediction as to what this is.
1314
00:46:12,560 –> 00:46:13,560
Okay.
1315
00:46:13,560 –> 00:46:16,960
And, I had it in my head, I nearly wrote it on a piece of, yeah, it was one of my magic
1316
00:46:16,960 –> 00:46:17,960
trick when you go hit your-
1317
00:46:17,960 –> 00:46:19,560
And I was gone, and this is what it is.
1318
00:46:19,560 –> 00:46:20,560
Okay.
1319
00:46:20,560 –> 00:46:23,480
And I, I know, you started it now, but I know exactly what you’ve been saying.
1320
00:46:23,480 –> 00:46:28,280
So, in it, I have everything in very organised piles, like these are the PET shirts, these
1321
00:46:28,280 –> 00:46:34,000
are the day t-shirts, one kids jumpers, girls cardigans, you know, everything, so that when
1322
00:46:34,000 –> 00:46:37,640
we roll it in the morning, it’s like, bish, bosh, bosh, like I do it really quickly.
1323
00:46:37,640 –> 00:46:42,680
And then, on the days that Matt has decided to put away the washing, it is, I mean, it’s
1324
00:46:42,680 –> 00:46:47,520
like there’s been a tornado, and it’s just been shoved in the box and shoved back under.
1325
00:46:47,520 –> 00:46:52,120
So, when you pull it out, it’s just kale, so there is no order to this, I can’t do it quickly.
1326
00:46:52,120 –> 00:46:54,920
And it is, it boils my piss, there’s no other way.
1327
00:46:54,920 –> 00:46:58,160
Like I say, we’ve gone beyond shirty and it boils my piss.
1328
00:46:58,160 –> 00:47:00,080
It is pure fucking rage, yeah.
1329
00:47:00,080 –> 00:47:03,960
Pure rage, because if I, great that you do chores, and he is
1330
00:47:03,960 –> 00:47:06,440
great at doing chores, and it’s not a thing where he goes, what chores shall I do?
1331
00:47:06,440 –> 00:47:09,720
Like he is a self-serving man, perfect.
1332
00:47:09,720 –> 00:47:14,040
But there is just certain blips, certain blind spots where it’s like, if you do it shit,
1333
00:47:14,040 –> 00:47:15,040
I’d rather you do it.
1334
00:47:15,040 –> 00:47:16,040
Didn’t do it.
1335
00:47:16,040 –> 00:47:19,040
But then, the phrase I keep saying is weaponising competence.
1336
00:47:19,040 –> 00:47:21,040
No, you don’t get away with that, just do it better.
1337
00:47:21,040 –> 00:47:22,040
Just do it better.
1338
00:47:22,040 –> 00:47:26,840
And that is my get shirty/get shirty chore of the calf.
1339
00:47:26,840 –> 00:47:28,840
Is that where you were going?
1340
00:47:28,840 –> 00:47:32,840
Yeah, before you even start, you said your chores, and when you went, I love my husband
1341
00:47:32,840 –> 00:47:37,160
very much, in my head I went and it’s folding motion.
1342
00:47:37,160 –> 00:47:39,160
Because I’m not allowed to fold washing.
1343
00:47:39,160 –> 00:47:40,160
Are you not?
1344
00:47:40,160 –> 00:47:41,160
No.
1345
00:47:41,160 –> 00:47:42,920
Why can’t you just fold it better?
1346
00:47:42,920 –> 00:47:45,160
You must fold all the time, you’re a tailor.
1347
00:47:45,160 –> 00:47:46,160
Yeah.
1348
00:47:46,160 –> 00:47:49,160
But I fold it the way I like it folded.
1349
00:47:49,160 –> 00:47:50,160
Okay.
1350
00:47:50,160 –> 00:47:52,160
Which is not the right way to fold it.
1351
00:47:52,160 –> 00:47:54,520
Oh, okay, well that’s, okay, that’s just a different style.
1352
00:47:54,520 –> 00:47:59,480
It might be slightly shitter, way of folding it.
1353
00:47:59,480 –> 00:48:02,640
But I think it’s more efficient and equally as good.
1354
00:48:02,640 –> 00:48:03,640
Okay.
1355
00:48:03,640 –> 00:48:04,640
But I’m not as organised with it.
1356
00:48:04,640 –> 00:48:09,240
Yeah, it’s the organisation, but I don’t care about neat folds, just there’s obvious piles,
1357
00:48:09,240 –> 00:48:11,480
let’s follow the system, please.
1358
00:48:11,480 –> 00:48:12,480
Yeah.
1359
00:48:12,480 –> 00:48:13,480
Etica.
1360
00:48:13,480 –> 00:48:14,480
Etica.
1361
00:48:14,480 –> 00:48:15,480
Stay in the right lane.
1362
00:48:15,480 –> 00:48:16,480
Etica.
1363
00:48:16,480 –> 00:48:17,480
I know, right lane.
1364
00:48:17,480 –> 00:48:21,480
I sound very straight and like, highly strained, don’t I?
1365
00:48:21,480 –> 00:48:22,480
Oh, God.
1366
00:48:22,480 –> 00:48:24,480
You leave from the washing.
1367
00:48:24,480 –> 00:48:30,600
Yeah, it’s one of those, again, low eye, as fair, that is fair.
1368
00:48:30,600 –> 00:48:34,800
But if it would just like, I don’t like the way they look in the cupboard, and that’s
1369
00:48:34,800 –> 00:48:35,800
a different thing.
1370
00:48:35,800 –> 00:48:36,800
Yeah.
1371
00:48:36,800 –> 00:48:38,200
But if it’s mucking up your mornings.
1372
00:48:38,200 –> 00:48:39,200
Yeah, yeah.
1373
00:48:39,200 –> 00:48:43,400
People all, he’ll like my system when it’s working in his favour.
1374
00:48:43,400 –> 00:48:44,400
Yeah.
1375
00:48:44,400 –> 00:48:47,520
In the morning when we’ve got three minutes to get in the car and get school, that system
1376
00:48:47,520 –> 00:48:48,640
really comes into its own business.
1377
00:48:48,640 –> 00:48:49,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1378
00:48:49,640 –> 00:48:51,040
So let’s just to buy a system, please.
1379
00:48:51,040 –> 00:48:52,040
Yeah.
1380
00:48:52,040 –> 00:48:55,480
So, yeah, so it’s the lack of following what works.
1381
00:48:55,480 –> 00:48:56,480
Yeah.
1382
00:48:56,480 –> 00:48:57,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1383
00:48:57,480 –> 00:48:58,480
That’s fair.
1384
00:48:58,480 –> 00:49:00,480
Yeah, and I think I just fold washing badly.
1385
00:49:00,480 –> 00:49:03,400
But, in fairness, so here, I don’t have to fold anything.
1386
00:49:03,400 –> 00:49:04,400
Do you not?
1387
00:49:04,400 –> 00:49:05,400
I guess hang it.
1388
00:49:05,400 –> 00:49:06,400
I don’t know.
1389
00:49:06,400 –> 00:49:07,400
I guess hang it.
1390
00:49:07,400 –> 00:49:08,400
I guess it goes on a hang-out.
1391
00:49:08,400 –> 00:49:09,400
Yeah.
1392
00:49:09,400 –> 00:49:10,400
Goes on a mannequin.
1393
00:49:10,400 –> 00:49:11,400
True.
1394
00:49:11,400 –> 00:49:12,400
What about material?
1395
00:49:12,400 –> 00:49:13,400
Yeah, sometimes.
1396
00:49:13,400 –> 00:49:14,400
But yeah, that will go on boards and rolls.
1397
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:15,400
Okay.
1398
00:49:15,400 –> 00:49:16,400
It gets turned back on the shelf.
1399
00:49:16,400 –> 00:49:17,400
That’s bad, it.
1400
00:49:17,400 –> 00:49:20,440
So yeah, I don’t, very often have to fold things.
1401
00:49:20,440 –> 00:49:21,440
No.
1402
00:49:21,440 –> 00:49:26,320
I can imagine though, in your trade that you don’t just do the scramble up, you’re like
1403
00:49:26,320 –> 00:49:29,240
you say your system isn’t that it’s, you don’t do it, you just do it in a different
1404
00:49:29,240 –> 00:49:30,240
way.
1405
00:49:30,240 –> 00:49:32,600
I imagine you’d have a different aspect of garment in that way.
1406
00:49:32,600 –> 00:49:33,600
No.
1407
00:49:33,600 –> 00:49:34,600
No, do you know what?
1408
00:49:34,600 –> 00:49:35,600
Do you know what?
1409
00:49:35,600 –> 00:49:42,640
Never ceases to amaze me is men of a certain age who don’t know how to put trousers on a hang-out.
1410
00:49:42,640 –> 00:49:43,640
Oh, really?
1411
00:49:43,640 –> 00:49:44,640
Yeah.
1412
00:49:44,640 –> 00:49:45,640
Do I know how to put trousers on a hang-out?
1413
00:49:45,640 –> 00:49:46,640
Oh, I don’t know.
1414
00:49:46,640 –> 00:49:47,640
I’ll have to give you a hand.
1415
00:49:47,640 –> 00:49:50,840
Is it you pull the zip out forward?
1416
00:49:50,840 –> 00:49:52,480
So it’s that way rather than in half?
1417
00:49:52,480 –> 00:49:54,840
Well, I’d further zip, not being done up.
1418
00:49:54,840 –> 00:49:55,840
Yeah.
1419
00:49:55,840 –> 00:49:57,640
And the front of the trousers folded in.
1420
00:49:57,640 –> 00:49:58,640
Folded in, okay.
1421
00:49:58,640 –> 00:50:00,440
I think it keeps a line on the hanger better.
1422
00:50:00,440 –> 00:50:01,440
There we go.
1423
00:50:01,440 –> 00:50:03,440
For the benefit of the list that sounds like getting that up here at Trapeze.
1424
00:50:03,440 –> 00:50:04,440
Yeah.
1425
00:50:04,440 –> 00:50:08,920
You’ll know there’s a chap who’s never put trousers on hangers because he’ll come out and
1426
00:50:08,920 –> 00:50:12,240
go, oh, I’ve just left them on the, I’m the hanger.
1427
00:50:12,240 –> 00:50:13,240
I’ve left them on the chair through there.
1428
00:50:13,240 –> 00:50:14,240
Oh, you can.
1429
00:50:14,240 –> 00:50:15,240
Is that okay?
1430
00:50:15,240 –> 00:50:16,240
Or I’ve put them on the hook.
1431
00:50:16,240 –> 00:50:17,240
Is that okay?
1432
00:50:17,240 –> 00:50:22,040
Or they’ll put them on the hanger in a weird way.
1433
00:50:22,040 –> 00:50:23,040
Okay.
1434
00:50:23,040 –> 00:50:26,200
So this is what I’m being shown here is what I would expect to pick up from a dry
1435
00:50:26,200 –> 00:50:30,000
cleaners and I would never manufacture again myself.
1436
00:50:30,000 –> 00:50:31,000
Okay.
1437
00:50:31,000 –> 00:50:38,400
So, cuff, flat cuff to flat cuff, hang them down and then pull them through the hanger so
1438
00:50:38,400 –> 00:50:40,920
that the creases are flat.
1439
00:50:40,920 –> 00:50:41,920
Creases at the front.
1440
00:50:41,920 –> 00:50:42,920
Yeah.
1441
00:50:42,920 –> 00:50:43,920
Yeah, you see it?
1442
00:50:43,920 –> 00:50:44,920
I’d always have the creases upside.
1443
00:50:44,920 –> 00:50:45,920
Yeah, I don’t know how to do that.
1444
00:50:45,920 –> 00:50:46,920
Oh.
1445
00:50:46,920 –> 00:50:47,920
Yeah, there we are.
1446
00:50:47,920 –> 00:50:49,920
Or perhaps that’s me being overly…
1447
00:50:49,920 –> 00:50:54,240
Well, I also think the quality of the garments you’re hanging, doesn’t match the quality
1448
00:50:54,240 –> 00:50:56,000
of the garments I’m hanging at home.
1449
00:50:56,000 –> 00:50:59,200
Yeah, but if it’s a pair of jeans, you’ve been hanging a pair of jeans like that.
1450
00:50:59,200 –> 00:51:00,200
I roll my jeans.
1451
00:51:00,200 –> 00:51:02,040
Yeah, well that’s good too.
1452
00:51:02,040 –> 00:51:06,760
But if it’s got a crease pressed in the front, you want to keep that crease.
1453
00:51:06,760 –> 00:51:08,920
Yeah, I’ve never been able to do that and now I know why.
1454
00:51:08,920 –> 00:51:10,920
Well, we can show you.
1455
00:51:10,920 –> 00:51:11,920
Okay, thanks.
1456
00:51:11,920 –> 00:51:15,560
But yeah, I just thought, well, perhaps that was just, you know, even the school chairs
1457
00:51:15,560 –> 00:51:17,800
just went on a hanger like that.
1458
00:51:17,800 –> 00:51:18,800
Wow.
1459
00:51:18,800 –> 00:51:23,960
Or following that and over the back of a chair so that they stayed nice for the next day.
1460
00:51:23,960 –> 00:51:24,960
Yeah, you’re proper.
1461
00:51:24,960 –> 00:51:25,960
That’s proper.
1462
00:51:25,960 –> 00:51:26,960
Is it?
1463
00:51:26,960 –> 00:51:27,960
Yeah, that is proper.
1464
00:51:27,960 –> 00:51:29,480
Yeah, and the sun’s a bit like that.
1465
00:51:29,480 –> 00:51:31,800
Is that one of my special things?
1466
00:51:31,800 –> 00:51:32,800
Oh, right.
1467
00:51:32,800 –> 00:51:33,800
I thought you were doing that.
1468
00:51:33,800 –> 00:51:34,800
I’ve got a knowing nod.
1469
00:51:34,800 –> 00:51:35,800
Oh, yeah.
1470
00:51:35,800 –> 00:51:36,800
He likes, yeah.
1471
00:51:36,800 –> 00:51:38,320
He presses his school trousers, though.
1472
00:51:38,320 –> 00:51:39,320
Does he?
1473
00:51:39,320 –> 00:51:41,000
But he’s a tailor, some I suppose, isn’t he?
1474
00:51:41,000 –> 00:51:42,000
Yeah.
1475
00:51:42,000 –> 00:51:44,000
And polishes his school shoes.
1476
00:51:44,000 –> 00:51:45,000
Oh, wow.
1477
00:51:45,000 –> 00:51:46,000
Not nearly every night.
1478
00:51:46,000 –> 00:51:47,000
Are you kidding?
1479
00:51:47,000 –> 00:51:48,000
How would he see?
1480
00:51:48,000 –> 00:51:49,000
30s, just turned 30.
1481
00:51:49,000 –> 00:51:50,000
Wow.
1482
00:51:50,000 –> 00:51:51,000
Yeah.
1483
00:51:51,000 –> 00:51:52,000
But I respect it.
1484
00:51:52,000 –> 00:51:53,000
But he likes…
1485
00:51:53,000 –> 00:51:54,000
Proper.
1486
00:51:54,000 –> 00:51:55,000
And the process is…
1487
00:51:55,000 –> 00:51:56,000
That’s the look.
1488
00:51:56,000 –> 00:51:57,000
Yeah, likes to look…
1489
00:51:57,000 –> 00:51:58,000
Yeah.
1490
00:51:58,000 –> 00:51:59,000
Correct, I suppose.
1491
00:51:59,000 –> 00:52:00,000
Oh, I’ve got the opposite.
1492
00:52:00,000 –> 00:52:01,000
Yeah.
1493
00:52:01,000 –> 00:52:03,560
My sun wears everything inside out and back to fun, doesn’t care.
1494
00:52:03,560 –> 00:52:05,760
Yeah, but that’s good, too, because that’s sort of…
1495
00:52:05,760 –> 00:52:06,760
Yeah, it’s…
1496
00:52:06,760 –> 00:52:07,760
It was what…
1497
00:52:07,760 –> 00:52:08,760
It’s the same.
1498
00:52:08,760 –> 00:52:09,760
It’s what…
1499
00:52:09,760 –> 00:52:11,280
Or wearing any clothes is what you feel…
1500
00:52:11,280 –> 00:52:12,280
Yes.
1501
00:52:12,280 –> 00:52:13,280
Right in.
1502
00:52:13,280 –> 00:52:14,280
You know?
1503
00:52:14,280 –> 00:52:15,280
Yes.
1504
00:52:15,280 –> 00:52:16,280
You know?
1505
00:52:16,280 –> 00:52:17,280
There is…
1506
00:52:17,280 –> 00:52:18,280
I think Tailoring can be a little bit wrong in writing, you know?
1507
00:52:18,280 –> 00:52:19,280
Yeah.
1508
00:52:19,280 –> 00:52:20,280
You shouldn’t do this.
1509
00:52:20,280 –> 00:52:22,520
And only have to do the top button, then never do the bottom button up on a waistcoat
1510
00:52:22,520 –> 00:52:23,520
and all these sorts of things.
1511
00:52:23,520 –> 00:52:26,080
And there is a place for that if that’s what you like.
1512
00:52:26,080 –> 00:52:27,080
Yes.
1513
00:52:27,080 –> 00:52:28,080
If you’re…
1514
00:52:28,080 –> 00:52:33,440
If it suits you to want to conform in those ways to style, that’s great.
1515
00:52:33,440 –> 00:52:37,640
But style and fashion, they’re different things and find your own style, find your own
1516
00:52:37,640 –> 00:52:39,320
style, then it can be whatever you like.
1517
00:52:39,320 –> 00:52:41,360
Where it inside out, back to fun, that’s great.
1518
00:52:41,360 –> 00:52:43,560
If that’s how you feel best in it.
1519
00:52:43,560 –> 00:52:44,560
That’s the best day, but…
1520
00:52:44,560 –> 00:52:46,360
Yeah, I like that.
1521
00:52:46,360 –> 00:52:48,560
So, yeah, so there you go.
1522
00:52:48,560 –> 00:52:49,560
But yeah, so…
1523
00:52:49,560 –> 00:52:50,560
Yeah, chores…
1524
00:52:50,560 –> 00:52:51,560
That was a good one.
1525
00:52:51,560 –> 00:52:52,560
Okay.
1526
00:52:52,560 –> 00:52:53,560
That was a good one.
1527
00:52:53,560 –> 00:52:54,560
Oh, yeah, no problem.
1528
00:52:54,560 –> 00:52:55,560
I don’t know.
1529
00:52:55,560 –> 00:52:57,560
I always sort of sit like I judge on these things.
1530
00:52:57,560 –> 00:52:58,560
I go, “Yes, that’s right.
1531
00:52:58,560 –> 00:53:00,800
You’re allowed that one, and you’re not allowed this one.”
1532
00:53:00,800 –> 00:53:01,800
But, you know…
1533
00:53:01,800 –> 00:53:04,960
But that’s definitely one I’ll agree with.
1534
00:53:04,960 –> 00:53:05,960
Okay.
1535
00:53:05,960 –> 00:53:09,320
I will put my hand up and say, “I am this sock pair, though.”
1536
00:53:09,320 –> 00:53:10,320
Oh, yeah.
1537
00:53:10,320 –> 00:53:12,920
“I am the person who is in charge of pairing socks.”
1538
00:53:12,920 –> 00:53:13,920
Do you know what my mum did?
1539
00:53:13,920 –> 00:53:15,240
So, I come from a big family.
1540
00:53:15,240 –> 00:53:17,440
I’m one of four kids.
1541
00:53:17,440 –> 00:53:18,440
And my mum…
1542
00:53:18,440 –> 00:53:20,360
I can’t remember what age we all were.
1543
00:53:20,360 –> 00:53:22,680
But definitely, like, beginning secondary school.
1544
00:53:22,680 –> 00:53:25,320
So, you know, 10, 11, 12, 13, age.
1545
00:53:25,320 –> 00:53:27,320
She got rid of all the socks in the house.
1546
00:53:27,320 –> 00:53:28,320
Yeah.
1547
00:53:28,320 –> 00:53:29,840
And bought, like, 20, probably more than that.
1548
00:53:29,840 –> 00:53:32,160
40 pairs of black size eight socks.
1549
00:53:32,160 –> 00:53:33,640
And that’s all anyone in the house for…
1550
00:53:33,640 –> 00:53:34,640
I really?
1551
00:53:34,640 –> 00:53:36,320
Yeah, mum, dad, me and my three brothers.
1552
00:53:36,320 –> 00:53:38,080
Because then there was never an odd sock in the house.
1553
00:53:38,080 –> 00:53:39,080
Yeah.
1554
00:53:39,080 –> 00:53:40,080
And that’s…
1555
00:53:40,080 –> 00:53:41,080
I respect it.
1556
00:53:41,080 –> 00:53:42,080
That’s a pretty good sister, right?
1557
00:53:42,080 –> 00:53:43,080
Is it?
1558
00:53:43,080 –> 00:53:44,080
Isn’t it?
1559
00:53:44,080 –> 00:53:47,680
I’d go for the motifs socks with a little motif on the side.
1560
00:53:47,680 –> 00:53:49,080
And then they’re easy to pair.
1561
00:53:49,080 –> 00:53:50,800
And you know who socks are, who is?
1562
00:53:50,800 –> 00:53:51,800
I’m interesting, OK.
1563
00:53:51,800 –> 00:53:52,800
I think I’m wearing…
1564
00:53:52,800 –> 00:53:53,800
Oh, now I’ve got spotty’s on today.
1565
00:53:53,800 –> 00:53:57,000
I was going to say, I’ll just think I’m wearing Thor socks today.
1566
00:53:57,000 –> 00:53:59,000
The Thor’s hammer on the side, but…
1567
00:53:59,000 –> 00:54:00,000
Always a child.
1568
00:54:00,000 –> 00:54:02,440
Yeah, but the black sock theory is good.
1569
00:54:02,440 –> 00:54:04,280
Everyone’s same size, everyone’s same colour.
1570
00:54:04,280 –> 00:54:05,280
Yeah.
1571
00:54:05,280 –> 00:54:07,280
I presume you’re all size eight.
1572
00:54:07,280 –> 00:54:08,280
It didn’t matter.
1573
00:54:08,280 –> 00:54:09,280
I really…
1574
00:54:09,280 –> 00:54:10,280
I like the day.
1575
00:54:10,280 –> 00:54:11,280
Yeah.
1576
00:54:11,280 –> 00:54:12,280
That’s a sort of good system.
1577
00:54:12,280 –> 00:54:13,280
Yeah.
1578
00:54:13,280 –> 00:54:15,280
I think everyone’s roughly at size eight, isn’t it?
1579
00:54:15,280 –> 00:54:17,280
Someone in size 10 could wear a size eight.
1580
00:54:17,280 –> 00:54:18,280
Someone is all size six.
1581
00:54:18,280 –> 00:54:19,280
Yeah, no.
1582
00:54:19,280 –> 00:54:21,280
No, you were a proper sock man.
1583
00:54:21,280 –> 00:54:23,880
Well, these two will know what’s happening now.
1584
00:54:23,880 –> 00:54:25,880
We’ve started talking about socks.
1585
00:54:25,880 –> 00:54:26,880
Is it supposed socks happen?
1586
00:54:26,880 –> 00:54:27,880
Oh, is he?
1587
00:54:27,880 –> 00:54:28,880
He is.
1588
00:54:28,880 –> 00:54:29,880
A card and a sock puller up a…
1589
00:54:29,880 –> 00:54:30,880
Yeah.
1590
00:54:30,880 –> 00:54:31,880
Can you not get braces?
1591
00:54:31,880 –> 00:54:33,880
Yeah, I don’t want to go down that route.
1592
00:54:33,880 –> 00:54:34,880
Socks, that’s what it’s called.
1593
00:54:34,880 –> 00:54:36,880
Socks feel weird.
1594
00:54:36,880 –> 00:54:37,880
So now we’ve said socks.
1595
00:54:37,880 –> 00:54:38,880
You’re not thinking about it.
1596
00:54:38,880 –> 00:54:39,880
Socks are my English again.
1597
00:54:39,880 –> 00:54:40,880
What, what?
1598
00:54:40,880 –> 00:54:41,880
Point socks are…
1599
00:54:41,880 –> 00:54:42,880
So you’re…
1600
00:54:42,880 –> 00:54:43,880
I’m going to try and resist it.
1601
00:54:43,880 –> 00:54:45,880
But if a sock’s hanging off the end of my toes,
1602
00:54:45,880 –> 00:54:46,880
Scrub it at the end of my feet, that’s it.
1603
00:54:46,880 –> 00:54:47,880
That’s like that.
1604
00:54:47,880 –> 00:54:48,880
If that’s…
1605
00:54:48,880 –> 00:54:49,880
My heels…
1606
00:54:49,880 –> 00:54:50,880
Yeah.
1607
00:54:50,880 –> 00:54:52,280
All the way down, slightly round to the sock, they have to come off,
1608
00:54:52,280 –> 00:54:53,280
all the way back on.
1609
00:54:53,280 –> 00:54:54,280
That’s like that.
1610
00:54:54,280 –> 00:54:55,780
And he gets angry if you see people in our house with the socks like that.
1611
00:54:55,780 –> 00:54:56,780
We call them…
1612
00:54:56,780 –> 00:54:57,780
I don’t know why, “Melly socks.”
1613
00:54:57,780 –> 00:54:58,780
He’s like, “Oh, you’ve got belly socks.
1614
00:54:58,780 –> 00:54:59,780
You’ve got to change your socks.”
1615
00:54:59,780 –> 00:55:01,780
And none of us care, but he really calls.
1616
00:55:01,780 –> 00:55:02,780
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1617
00:55:02,780 –> 00:55:06,280
Yeah, if I’m wearing shorts, I can roll the socks down.
1618
00:55:06,280 –> 00:55:07,280
Yeah.
1619
00:55:07,280 –> 00:55:10,120
If I’m wearing shorts, I can roll them down.
1620
00:55:10,120 –> 00:55:13,680
But if I’m wearing proper tires, I’ve got to be pulled up.
1621
00:55:13,680 –> 00:55:14,680
Oh.
1622
00:55:14,680 –> 00:55:15,680
Yeah.
1623
00:55:15,680 –> 00:55:16,680
It’s weird, isn’t it?
1624
00:55:16,680 –> 00:55:17,680
We’ve learnt some English today.
1625
00:55:17,680 –> 00:55:19,680
Don’t, yeah, don’t like them not feel uncomfortable.
1626
00:55:19,680 –> 00:55:20,680
Yeah.
1627
00:55:20,680 –> 00:55:23,280
And even have to put the left sock on first.
1628
00:55:23,280 –> 00:55:24,280
Wow.
1629
00:55:24,280 –> 00:55:25,280
Yeah.
1630
00:55:25,280 –> 00:55:26,280
Okay.
1631
00:55:26,280 –> 00:55:27,280
We’ve really touched on something here with socks, haven’t we?
1632
00:55:27,280 –> 00:55:28,280
Yeah.
1633
00:55:28,280 –> 00:55:29,280
Yeah.
1634
00:55:29,280 –> 00:55:30,280
And I…
1635
00:55:30,280 –> 00:55:31,280
Yeah.
1636
00:55:31,280 –> 00:55:32,280
They are literally going…
1637
00:55:32,280 –> 00:55:33,280
Bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop.
1638
00:55:33,280 –> 00:55:34,280
My ankle’s all that it’s horrible.
1639
00:55:34,280 –> 00:55:36,280
So on that note, I’m going to…
1640
00:55:36,280 –> 00:55:37,280
Why?
1641
00:55:37,280 –> 00:55:38,280
I’m going to…
1642
00:55:38,280 –> 00:55:39,280
I’m wearing a knuckle pull with socks.
1643
00:55:39,280 –> 00:55:40,280
I’m sad.
1644
00:55:40,280 –> 00:55:42,280
So thank you so much.
1645
00:55:42,280 –> 00:55:43,280
I really enjoyed that.
1646
00:55:43,280 –> 00:55:44,280
Pleasure.
1647
00:55:44,280 –> 00:55:45,280
It was great.
1648
00:55:45,280 –> 00:55:47,280
And I look forward to seeing your sort of…
1649
00:55:47,280 –> 00:55:49,880
Not grand designs, whatever you are.
1650
00:55:49,880 –> 00:55:50,880
What are you going to call your house, programme?
1651
00:55:50,880 –> 00:55:51,880
I don’t know.
1652
00:55:51,880 –> 00:55:52,880
Good point, I’ll have a think.
1653
00:55:52,880 –> 00:55:53,880
Yeah.
1654
00:55:53,880 –> 00:55:54,880
I’ll have a think.
1655
00:55:54,880 –> 00:55:55,880
That’s great.
1656
00:55:55,880 –> 00:55:56,880
But thank you so much for coming on.
1657
00:55:56,880 –> 00:55:57,880
Get sure to…
1658
00:55:57,880 –> 00:55:58,880
And look forward to…
1659
00:55:58,880 –> 00:56:00,880
Sorting your shirt out for you.
1660
00:56:00,880 –> 00:56:01,880
Yeah.
1661
00:56:01,880 –> 00:56:02,880
Thank you so much, haven’t we?
1662
00:56:02,880 –> 00:56:16,880
[Music]
1663
00:56:16,880 –> 00:56:21,480
Do you see what I mean?
1664
00:56:21,480 –> 00:56:24,480
Alex really knew what these Gid shirties were going to be.
1665
00:56:24,480 –> 00:56:26,480
And I really like that.
1666
00:56:26,480 –> 00:56:29,480
A massive thank you to Alex for coming on the podcast.
1667
00:56:29,480 –> 00:56:34,480
Really great to talk to you and I hope we get to speak more again in the future.
1668
00:56:34,480 –> 00:56:39,680
Big thank you as always going out to Stuart Wilson for the editing and for the production.
1669
00:56:39,680 –> 00:56:44,880
To Sam, as always, for keeping us on track and making sure that the things get done,
1670
00:56:44,880 –> 00:56:49,480
the need to get done and to DatHazza for the music as always.
1671
00:56:49,480 –> 00:56:52,480
I’m your host, another Stuart.
1672
00:56:52,480 –> 00:56:55,480
Until next time, do try not to get too shirty.
1673
00:56:55,480 –> 00:57:25,080
[Music]
1674
00:57:25,080 –> 00:57:35,280
Let’s get shirty.
1675
00:57:35,280 –> 00:57:36,280
Quick pull your socks up.
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You know it’s um…
3
00:00:02,000 –> 00:00:03,000
Um…
4
00:00:03,000 –> 00:00:05,000
I’m sorry, you just come in and talk all over.
5
00:00:05,000 –> 00:00:06,000
I’m so sorry.
7
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I haven’t had a clap yet.
8
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Welcome to Get Shirty, the podcast that likes to look at the little things in life which
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never fail to irritate.
10
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Each episode we ask our special guest to talk about what gets them shirty at home, work
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00:00:20,500 –> 00:00:22,080
and going out.
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Then our off-the-cuff surprise question could take the chat anywhere.
13
00:00:26,720 –> 00:00:30,800
Each guest also designs their own mate or measure shirt which we then make.
14
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So we talk about that too.
15
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Funny that, us being tailors.
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Welcome to Season 2’s episode 3.
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Yes I’m going to stick with seasons, podcasts can have seasons sure .
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So it’s been such a banger of a start to the new season and that’s not changing any
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time soon as today’s guest is Alex Beard.
20
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Alex is a journalist, broadcaster and presenter and somehow still manages to find the time
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to project manager house renovation and build and share it with us all on her amazing
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social media.
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So fun to talk to Alex and she really had laser precision for these Get Shirtys just to
24
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join us P2.
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So here we go then, one guest, two mics, three tailors and a host of irritations.
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Let’s get shirty.
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Alex, welcome to the Get Shirty Podcast.
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Thank you.
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Nice to have another lady in the podcast.
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Yeah good, please to represent.
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We want loads more.
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I know quite a few if you need any more.
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Definitely, definitely.
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Send people away, we’d love that.
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I’m slightly worried, I’m going to come clean.
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Yeah because I, having listened to other podcasts, realised what your definition of shirt
37
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is and I don’t know if I have that level of calm.
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I think I have fine or let’s take shirty and drop the R like that.
39
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Okay.
40
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So I’ve tried to find something more mild to discuss.
41
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I just go straight to rage.
42
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Yeah good, well do you know and quite often one of the themes actually that comes through
43
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on the podcast is that people say, oh I’m really quite calm actually, I don’t tend to
44
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get cross and like I’m always thinking, I get pretty cross, you know, like and I was
45
00:03:02,680 –> 00:03:06,320
sort of say, oh that’s really zen of you, you know, I’ll think.
46
00:03:06,320 –> 00:03:09,040
I don’t know what they’re taking, that’s what I want to know.
47
00:03:09,040 –> 00:03:10,040
Yeah, yeah.
48
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Is it?
49
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Yeah because the definition now, in fact, which came out from their live one is, get shirty,
50
00:03:17,240 –> 00:03:19,600
is one below tetchy, is what.
51
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So you’re above tetchy, are you?
52
00:03:21,960 –> 00:03:22,960
Yeah, I think so.
53
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I think I’m a woman of an age who is patience is thin, basically.
54
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Right.
55
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So I’m fine, I’m fine, I’m absolutely not fine.
56
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Are you losing your shirt?
57
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Yeah, yeah.
58
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But I would say I remain fine at most things.
59
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Right, okay.
60
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So the line, it takes a bit of time to reach the line, but once you’ve reached the line,
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that’s it.
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Yeah, full red mist, yeah.
63
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And do you calm down as quickly?
65
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Yes, no, I’m fine.
66
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Good at that, yeah.
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So you’re like, really cross and then in some ways.
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Lots of its free tips, now for better and back down to earth.
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Okay, for the record, if you want to swear, we’re not a non-swearie.
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Okay, for you, because I, yeah, I’ve spent so much of my career not swearing that I feel
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like I’m now in overdrive and I loosely pepper my conversation.
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All right, okay.
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Swear, yeah.
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Because it was, because you’ve done radio and TV, yeah.
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Is there a preference to put that on?
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Although having said, gone back to podcast, we’ve, in COVID had a podcast and it’s actually
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quite a nice, relaxed medium.
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allows you to have a much easier conversation, whereas tell it, it’s like, please tell this
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detailed political story in 90 seconds.
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So it’s, it’s fast, it’s really abrupt, you have to get to the point really quickly.
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And so audio allows you to have a much looser conversation, which I really enjoy.
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But at the same time, I then get find myself getting incredibly frustrated when people aren’t
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able to get to the top line of things, because I’m like, just tell them what you need to
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say, quicker please.
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It’s, yeah, it’s, it’s interesting, isn’t it, that sort of, like, I really like podcast
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on, I listened to a lot of podcast, because of that free form conversation, you never
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quite sure where it’s going to go and, you know, you, you sort of, one of the things I find
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frustrating actually gives me a little bit sure to is sometimes when they’re making a
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point, like you say, it’s not sometimes that they don’t get, they’re quick enough, it’s
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just that they forget it and they don’t pick it back up later on.
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And then I’m like, but you were just about to make a really good point about that.
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And somebody spoke over the top and they never go back to it.
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I think I really wanted to hear what you wanted to say, I suppose you don’t get that in
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Not so much, because you’re, you’re out to get that one answer.
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So if someone moves off the subject, you circle back and be like, she’s what I’ve come
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here to ask you is this, I need that answer.
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So you go back and annoy them, the Pacsman style, if you will.
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I’m just not as obnoxious, I think.
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I’d like to think anyway.
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Well, well, we’ll find out.
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And then it’s, like, by the time you have gone, gone, so Pacsman.
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And do you find yourself edit a little bit as when you’re on TV more than, say, Radio or
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podcast?
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I mean, it’s been a while, so I haven’t been in telly for quite a while now.
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I’ve actually, like, side-step to advertising, just as a result of having kids and other boring,
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predictable.
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But when I first moved into advertising, advertising is really frilly language and lots of,
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I just know top line.
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And I found that, I’m like, I’ve written my proposals.
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Three sentences and everyone’s like, oh, no, we’re expecting three A4 pages.
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The sentiment is still the same.
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I’ve summarised it three sentences.
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It’s a real gear change to me because I’m constantly self-editing.
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I just, even in my life, I’m like, what’s the quickest route to this?
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Very different to how my husband, Matt, who’s also been on your podcast.
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How he operates, he’s a meanderer, lots of, you know, he’s like a meanderering river,
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whereas I’m just like a waterfall.
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But we’re nowhere where we’re going.
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Yeah, so, yeah, every aspect of my life, I think I take that self-edit, telly, quick to the
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point, hence one quick to rage.
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Well, look, let’s get straight in with the rage there.
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Oh, or a shirt.
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Which are you like?
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So, the three sort of first areas that we look at is, so it’s work, rest and play.
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So, work, what are your work, get shirties?
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That’s quite varied, isn’t it?
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It is quite varied, but I think this is quite a universal shirtie.
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I’m sure that I’m going to have lots of people on board with me here.
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And it’s people who do reply all unnecessarily.
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And I will say that it does eventually send me to a blind rage.
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So, I start shirtie, but there’s a really good example about a month ago.
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So, where I work now, thousands of people in this company, someone sent out an email saying,
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really pleased to announce that, so and so, you’ve never heard of, there’s got a job
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so you’ve never heard of.
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Great, you know, like just a classic, all business email and then every fucker in the company
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replies all to congratulate this person we’ve ever heard of.
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I don’t need 55 emails.
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From somebody I’ve never heard of congratulating somebody.
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I’ve never heard, honestly, by the end of the day.
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Oh, my delete, just like, this is so unnecessary.
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So, yeah, it started off shirtie, but built to a rage.
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I am with you now.
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I am with you on that.
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Right, I think everybody would be with you on that.
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It is unnecessary.
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Like, and do you think people were doing it consciously?
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Do you think some people just like, oh yeah, reply or was it like, was there, was there,
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Oh no, they were,
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Some virtue seemingly.
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Totally, they were like, I love it.
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They’re the people who get to the front of the gig and they get to the front of whenever
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the King’s was taking.
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They’re those people.
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Yeah, see, I think, I think that would probably piss me off more than having to look
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at all the emails, like the sort of sentiment behind them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, too much.
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And it’s all a bit gushy, isn’t it, as well?
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Yeah, it is.
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Come on, let’s remember we’re British.
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Let’s keep it to the lips.
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Yeah, and are you pretty good with emails anyway?
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Oh, yeah, I’m killer.
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I do wish this.
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Yeah, totally.
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I’m one of those people who always has an empty inbox, always, like those people who,
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yeah, I have no time for those people who are like, look at my 23,000, I’m like, you’re
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not?
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No, honestly, it makes me itch, physically itch.
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I don’t know how you can live your life like that, same with WhatsApp, anything like that,
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I’m like, get through it, clear it out, I need to be at zero at all times.
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Yeah, yeah, because you, Stu, you’ve got lots of folders as well, and they sort of, they filter
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into the different folders.
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Are you a Virgo?
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, I don’t know what that means.
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(Laughter)
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Yes, I am.
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Oh, well, I just don’t know.
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I just don’t know.
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I only know if it was a Virgo, I’ll be like, yeah, that sounds a Virgo.
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You know, that might be very characteristic, I’m not sure.
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Yeah, it could be, couldn’t it?
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Yeah, I can’t, um, it’s not true.
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It’s a wolf.
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No, I like it when I, when you find things that you agree with, confirmation bias, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that bit, I’ll have that bit, yeah.
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Absolutely, yeah, definitely that.
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Yeah, so no, I’m not organised with my emails at all.
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It is a, is it a problem?
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Ah, it can be, it can be, yeah.
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It’s very, if you still know the crowd.
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Yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I’m not the business chief communicator.
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You know, that’s not, that’s not my role in the business because it’s not my forte.
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Um, but, you know, I’ve got a few folders, I’ve got one folder that is dealt with, so once
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I’ve dealt with it, I’ll drag it across into that folder, sometimes.
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That’s it.
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Yeah, so sometimes I’ll take it across to that folder, sometimes I won’t.
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But the minute I’ve dealt with something, it’s, it’s gone out of my mind.
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So, um, and sometimes the minute I’ve read it and think I’ll deal with that, it’s gone
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out of my mind.
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Yeah, it’s happening.
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I’m sure I’m de-like Noses, ADHD, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, um, yeah, so I’m not great with emails.
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So it sounds like you’re, are you sort of that organised in there?
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Oh, God, yeah.
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Yeah, um, we call it in my family, Sergeant Major mode.
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Right, I do.
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I do.
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I do.
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Yeah, I’m a list executor.
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I’m, yeah.
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You’re an achiever.
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I know.
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I know.
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I’m that strong, like that would suggest that I’ve had a lofty, I don’t know.
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Yeah, but even those can just be a day-to-day life achieve.
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Yeah, I’ll go.
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You know, like I’ve got these 10 tasks to do today.
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One of them is cleaning the other and then six of them are sort of…
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100% that person.
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…getting the kids doing things sorted.
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Yeah, I’m the captain of the ship.
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The captain doesn’t know which direction they’re going in.
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You’re getting lost at sea, aren’t you?
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That’s how I see my role.
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When I first started dating my husband, who’s the polar opposite of me, he had this little
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Persho sporting thing, blue car.
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And I opened the glove compartment and like a comedy sketch, like a cartoon sketch, all
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these letters started like…
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…out and made, all unopened.
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I was like, what’s this?
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And he just said, oh, it’s just my poster, don’t like reading posters because then I have
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to do stuff.
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And then instantly, that was my night, sat cross-legged on his bed, just going through all
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of his posts and like replying to things and stuff.
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I can’t…
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If I know that that’s somewhere, I can’t sleep until that’s done.
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So yeah, that’s, I guess that’s where…
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And it’s a coping mechanism because if there’s something undone, then I get stressy.
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So that’s where…
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So I do it to piece my own stuff.
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Yeah, but that’s…
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But that’s…
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That’s good in and of itself, because it’s like…
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You know what you need to do for your own well-being and you do it.
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Yeah, true.
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Rather than, I know that that would make me feel better, but I’m still comfortable.
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I just can’t ignore it.
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So, you know, in terms of your husband, you were a godson then really for him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, but at the same time, like he does the things that I’m not very good at.
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There is a happy harmony there.
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Yeah, that’s good.
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And you took that initial kind of like, “Oh, God, you’re like that.”
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“Oh, God, you’re like that.”
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To work out that, “Okay, this could work if we just…”
316
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Yeah.
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We know what divide and conquer is.
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Yeah.
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We know what that is now.
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Yeah, well that’s good.
321
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Especially at the moment as well with your house.
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With the house, yeah.
323
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How’s that going?
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Yeah, I mean, hilariously.
325
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So it’s been taking us like two and a half years to get to this point.
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Right.
327
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Very…
328
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
330
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And there’s been loads of rounds of planning, blah, blah, blah, lots of conversations with the architect.
331
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And about a couple of months ago, I had the plans out that I was doing something.
332
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And Matt was like, “Oh, I don’t know if I like that bit.”
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And I’m like, “Absolutely not.”
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Two and a half years down the line, you wake up and decide to have an interest in what we’ve
335
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drawn.
336
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No.
337
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And he’s been brought in on every stage, but in that kind of ADHD thing, he’s sort of like,
338
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“I’ve seen that done.”
339
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Yeah.
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Like, “I’ve moved away.”
341
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And I haven’t got a thing about that.
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Yeah.
343
00:13:59,360 –> 00:14:00,360
And I’m like, “No, no, no.
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The time for questions have passed.
345
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This is what’s being built now.”
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Yeah.
347
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So yeah, I’m very much the…
348
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I will like and project managing it.
349
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Yeah.
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And then I give him a shuffle and bill out, dig there and he’ll dig there.
351
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Yeah.
352
00:14:11,240 –> 00:14:12,640
So that’s the way that we manage that.
353
00:14:12,640 –> 00:14:19,720
I saw the videos on your Instagram around all the footings and dig the trenches filling
354
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up with water.
355
00:14:20,720 –> 00:14:21,720
Yeah.
356
00:14:21,720 –> 00:14:22,720
I throw a chicken in there.
357
00:14:22,720 –> 00:14:23,720
Yeah.
358
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Or child.
359
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Or cat.
360
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Anything but concrete really, ever beginning for a quite a long time.
361
00:14:28,440 –> 00:14:31,920
And then we couldn’t get the concrete to sight, but you still have to pay for the concrete,
362
00:14:31,920 –> 00:14:35,880
which was an expensive mistake to me.
363
00:14:35,880 –> 00:14:39,960
So could it just, it couldn’t reverse down your little line or…?
364
00:14:39,960 –> 00:14:44,480
No, so I had planned because we live, we’ve got this sounds grand, it’s not grand, we’ve
365
00:14:44,480 –> 00:14:46,360
got this very, very long skinny drive.
366
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Yeah.
367
00:14:47,360 –> 00:14:49,160
And it’s like, I know that something’s not going to get up there.
368
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Yeah.
369
00:14:50,160 –> 00:14:53,760
So I pay for, this is very boring in apologies, but I pay for a line pump.
370
00:14:53,760 –> 00:14:54,760
This is what my chat is now.
371
00:14:54,760 –> 00:14:55,760
It’s like, line pumps and foundations.
372
00:14:55,760 –> 00:14:56,760
You know what?
373
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You’re a rising person, aren’t you?
374
00:14:57,760 –> 00:14:58,760
Yeah.
375
00:14:58,760 –> 00:15:00,760
So I paid for a line pump to get up the drive.
376
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So I knew that was going to be a problem.
377
00:15:02,360 –> 00:15:07,760
I haven’t anticipated, they couldn’t even get on to our first road, let alone our drive.
378
00:15:07,760 –> 00:15:11,440
So he was out on a general road, been like, “Kel, Guy, do you feel I have a love?”
379
00:15:11,440 –> 00:15:12,440
I’m like, “What?”
380
00:15:12,440 –> 00:15:16,640
So you just had to wave it off, wave off that £2,000 down the road.
381
00:15:16,640 –> 00:15:17,640
I know.
382
00:15:17,640 –> 00:15:20,160
But you know what, that’s what happens when you project money to yourself.
383
00:15:20,160 –> 00:15:22,040
So we’re learning these mistakes now.
384
00:15:22,040 –> 00:15:25,600
And now even if I order so much as a doorbell, I’m telling people they have to come and
385
00:15:25,600 –> 00:15:27,840
survey the site before they try to live there.
386
00:15:27,840 –> 00:15:28,840
Right, okay.
387
00:15:28,840 –> 00:15:31,440
I’m like, “Don’t care, how big that package is, you can tell me you can deliver it,
388
00:15:31,440 –> 00:15:32,720
otherwise I’ll rock buying it from you.”
389
00:15:32,720 –> 00:15:33,720
Yeah.
390
00:15:33,720 –> 00:15:34,720
So I’m now super paranoid.
391
00:15:34,720 –> 00:15:35,720
So I’ve learnt my lesson.
392
00:15:35,720 –> 00:15:40,520
It’s good, you’ve learnt and you’ve implemented times in order to not have the same problem
393
00:15:40,520 –> 00:15:41,520
again.
394
00:15:41,520 –> 00:15:42,520
Exactly.
395
00:15:42,520 –> 00:15:43,520
You’ve got a concrete thing.
396
00:15:43,520 –> 00:15:49,480
So I found a company that had a much smaller concrete lorry, much smaller, and I said,
397
00:15:49,480 –> 00:15:51,520
“Come do a, made them, come do a site survey.”
398
00:15:51,520 –> 00:15:53,120
And they said, “Oh, we can get it all the way up in your drive.”
399
00:15:53,120 –> 00:15:55,360
I was like, “If you can get it on my drive, I will love you.”
400
00:15:55,360 –> 00:15:57,680
And the woman was like, “Yep, definitely get it up drive.”
401
00:15:57,680 –> 00:15:59,080
So I ordered the concrete from them.
402
00:15:59,080 –> 00:16:03,360
The guy took 45 minutes to get the first load up the drive, then got to the top and he was
403
00:16:03,360 –> 00:16:05,680
like, “My clutch is about to go, I’m not doing that again.”
404
00:16:05,680 –> 00:16:07,320
I’m like that, right.
405
00:16:07,320 –> 00:16:13,240
So then I had to panic find a dumper truck, which I could hire and get to site within an
406
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hour.
407
00:16:14,240 –> 00:16:17,640
And then we ran the dumper truck down the drive, filled up with concrete, ran it back up,
408
00:16:17,640 –> 00:16:18,640
scooped it in.
409
00:16:18,640 –> 00:16:22,160
So it was still a drama, but I don’t have a trench of my garden anymore.
410
00:16:22,160 –> 00:16:23,680
I have some concrete.
411
00:16:23,680 –> 00:16:25,480
So we got there.
412
00:16:25,480 –> 00:16:26,480
Yeah, blah.
413
00:16:26,480 –> 00:16:27,480
Yeah, blah.
414
00:16:27,480 –> 00:16:29,920
And then are you enjoying that process?
415
00:16:29,920 –> 00:16:30,920
Yeah, love it.
416
00:16:30,920 –> 00:16:31,920
There’s lists for days.
417
00:16:31,920 –> 00:16:33,080
And they get shirties around that.
418
00:16:33,080 –> 00:16:37,720
I mean, like what you’ve just described as sort of there and beyond get shirties.
419
00:16:37,720 –> 00:16:39,280
Well, I suppose they’re issues just.
420
00:16:39,280 –> 00:16:43,480
Yeah, weirdly, those sort of things, Matt was quite angry when that first concrete thing
421
00:16:43,480 –> 00:16:44,480
happened.
422
00:16:44,480 –> 00:16:45,480
I was absolutely then.
423
00:16:45,480 –> 00:16:46,480
Right, okay.
424
00:16:46,480 –> 00:16:50,760
Because what can I, like, the point at which it’s nothing I can do, I can’t make a
425
00:16:50,760 –> 00:16:52,880
wider road and I can’t make a smaller concrete truck.
426
00:16:52,880 –> 00:16:53,880
It is what it is.
427
00:16:53,880 –> 00:16:54,880
Yeah.
428
00:16:54,880 –> 00:16:55,880
But Matt got quite shirty.
429
00:16:55,880 –> 00:16:56,880
Right, okay.
430
00:16:56,880 –> 00:16:57,880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
431
00:16:57,880 –> 00:17:01,680
No, there’s definitely, but, you know, we have had a fight with planning for two years.
432
00:17:01,680 –> 00:17:02,680
Right, I agree.
433
00:17:02,680 –> 00:17:03,680
And that’s, yeah.
434
00:17:03,680 –> 00:17:04,680
That’s the local.
435
00:17:04,680 –> 00:17:08,080
Yeah, the local counts were really helpful.
436
00:17:08,080 –> 00:17:10,880
We have a parish council who weighed in.
437
00:17:10,880 –> 00:17:11,880
Oh.
438
00:17:11,880 –> 00:17:12,880
Yeah.
439
00:17:12,880 –> 00:17:16,880
I won’t go too much into that because they don’t like me very much, but we won.
440
00:17:16,880 –> 00:17:20,280
Oh, well, that’s shame on them.
441
00:17:20,280 –> 00:17:21,280
Yeah.
442
00:17:21,280 –> 00:17:23,080
Yeah, I’ll invite them over for a tea once it’s done.
443
00:17:23,080 –> 00:17:24,080
Yeah.
444
00:17:24,080 –> 00:17:28,080
And then, you know, I think it’s a bit of a shame.
445
00:17:28,080 –> 00:17:29,080
I think it’s a bit of a shame.
446
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
447
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
448
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
449
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
450
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
451
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
452
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
453
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
454
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
455
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
456
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
457
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
458
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
459
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
460
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I think it’s a bit of a shame.
461
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467
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487
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488
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493
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494
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496
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I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
497
00:18:38,080 –> 00:18:39,080
I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
498
00:18:39,080 –> 00:18:40,080
I have with people on Instagram because I’m inherently nosy.
499
00:18:40,080 –> 00:18:41,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
500
00:18:41,080 –> 00:18:42,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
501
00:18:42,080 –> 00:18:43,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
502
00:18:43,080 –> 00:18:44,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
503
00:18:44,080 –> 00:18:45,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
504
00:18:45,080 –> 00:18:46,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
505
00:18:46,080 –> 00:18:47,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
506
00:18:47,080 –> 00:18:48,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
507
00:18:48,080 –> 00:18:49,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
508
00:18:49,080 –> 00:18:50,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
509
00:18:50,080 –> 00:18:51,080
I see people build these incredible things or renovate their kitchen.
510
00:18:51,080 –> 00:18:58,080
I just want to be really open about how much stuff costs because I think that’s it’s almost a bit of an industry secret.
511
00:18:58,080 –> 00:19:01,080
No one ever really reveals the price of stuff.
512
00:19:01,080 –> 00:19:03,080
How much is it to build your own house?
513
00:19:03,080 –> 00:19:04,080
No one talks about it.
514
00:19:04,080 –> 00:19:05,080
No one talks about it.
515
00:19:05,080 –> 00:19:08,080
You can obviously see those grand signs that they’re like, “Oh, it costs just 1.7 million.”
516
00:19:08,080 –> 00:19:11,080
Well, we’ve got to be able to build a house for less than 1.7 million.
517
00:19:11,080 –> 00:19:15,080
So let’s, I’m going to do walks and all, and I’m going to walk to that.
518
00:19:15,080 –> 00:19:21,080
Oh, so that could be your next thing then, like your own sort of housing program.
519
00:19:21,080 –> 00:19:22,080
Yeah, I’ve got that bit of a dream.
520
00:19:22,080 –> 00:19:23,080
Or would it?
521
00:19:23,080 –> 00:19:24,080
Yeah, absolutely.
522
00:19:24,080 –> 00:19:25,080
Yeah, they absolutely.
523
00:19:25,080 –> 00:19:26,080
Yeah, totally.
524
00:19:26,080 –> 00:19:30,080
Matt and I is the first date we’ve gone through a pub in Tampa, Wales.
525
00:19:30,080 –> 00:19:33,080
And I am inherently nosy and really in town is.
526
00:19:33,080 –> 00:19:38,080
And so we were walking back and I asked him to give me a Lego for a wall search
527
00:19:38,080 –> 00:19:40,080
because I was like, “There’s a house there. I’ve never seen.”
528
00:19:40,080 –> 00:19:43,080
And he had to give me a Lego for a wall so I could have a nose.
529
00:19:43,080 –> 00:19:44,080
So yeah, that would be–
530
00:19:44,080 –> 00:19:46,080
No, proper, proper, yeah, yeah, my nosey bitch, yeah.
531
00:19:46,080 –> 00:19:47,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
532
00:19:47,080 –> 00:19:49,080
Bit of a bitch, yeah.
533
00:19:49,080 –> 00:19:55,080
Yeah, well, there was something about properties and houses and I think there’s an element
534
00:19:55,080 –> 00:19:57,080
of how other people live.
535
00:19:57,080 –> 00:19:58,080
Yeah.
536
00:19:58,080 –> 00:20:00,080
I get a bit like that with other people’s shops.
537
00:20:00,080 –> 00:20:01,080
Do you?
538
00:20:01,080 –> 00:20:04,080
Yeah, and you go, “Oh, I wouldn’t put that there.”
539
00:20:04,080 –> 00:20:07,080
I don’t think you’ll sell better over there or that sort of thing.
540
00:20:07,080 –> 00:20:11,080
I’ll never say it, but you always sort of redesigning people’s shops.
541
00:20:11,080 –> 00:20:14,080
This shop’s perfect, which it isn’t.
542
00:20:14,080 –> 00:20:19,080
But yeah, so, “Oh, good. Well, we’ll look forward to seeing you.”
543
00:20:19,080 –> 00:20:20,080
Yeah, let’s put that in there.
544
00:20:20,080 –> 00:20:21,080
I think you’d be great with that.
545
00:20:21,080 –> 00:20:22,080
Great, yeah.
546
00:20:22,080 –> 00:20:23,080
Thanks.
547
00:20:23,080 –> 00:20:30,080
[SIREN]
548
00:20:30,080 –> 00:20:31,080
So that’s your work, Get Shirtie, that.
549
00:20:31,080 –> 00:20:33,080
Yeah, that’s my work, Get Shirtie.
550
00:20:33,080 –> 00:20:34,080
Emails.
551
00:20:34,080 –> 00:20:35,080
Emails.
552
00:20:35,080 –> 00:20:36,080
Oh, yeah, we travel quite a long way from here.
553
00:20:36,080 –> 00:20:37,080
Yeah, absolutely.
554
00:20:37,080 –> 00:20:38,080
Wow!
555
00:20:38,080 –> 00:20:42,080
So, you’ve been a professional journalist and interviewer.
556
00:20:42,080 –> 00:20:45,080
If you ever just want to bring it back on track, you know, that’s fine, don’t you?
557
00:20:45,080 –> 00:20:47,080
You wanted to steer the ship, you just said.
558
00:20:47,080 –> 00:20:50,080
No, well, I’m happy to steer it, but just be prepared for her.
559
00:20:50,080 –> 00:20:51,080
Grabbing the rudder at the top.
560
00:20:51,080 –> 00:20:52,080
Yeah, you got you.
561
00:20:52,080 –> 00:20:54,080
So, emails, yes, I agree.
562
00:20:54,080 –> 00:20:55,080
What about rest?
563
00:20:55,080 –> 00:20:56,080
So that’s being at home.
564
00:20:56,080 –> 00:20:57,080
Being at home.
565
00:20:57,080 –> 00:21:01,080
You know, what’s that sort of when in your downtime, not the going outside of things,
566
00:21:01,080 –> 00:21:03,080
what are you get shirties?
567
00:21:03,080 –> 00:21:05,080
You don’t have to point the finger?
568
00:21:05,080 –> 00:21:06,080
No, there’s no finger.
569
00:21:06,080 –> 00:21:08,080
But it’s okay, what I’m pointing at, slugs.
570
00:21:08,080 –> 00:21:09,080
Slugs?
571
00:21:09,080 –> 00:21:10,080
Yeah.
572
00:21:10,080 –> 00:21:11,080
Where do they live?
573
00:21:11,080 –> 00:21:12,080
I do not understand it, right?
574
00:21:12,080 –> 00:21:13,080
I don’t understand that.
575
00:21:13,080 –> 00:21:14,080
We, and you’re ducking.
576
00:21:14,080 –> 00:21:15,080
Well, can you keep them there, please?
577
00:21:15,080 –> 00:21:18,080
All the world slugs, a little under there.
578
00:21:18,080 –> 00:21:19,080
I don’t understand it.
579
00:21:19,080 –> 00:21:24,080
So, we are obviously living in a house that is not great at the moment because it will be renovated.
580
00:21:24,080 –> 00:21:27,080
And every morning I come down, there’s been a slug party.
581
00:21:27,080 –> 00:21:31,080
I don’t know where those fuckers are, but they leave a trail and it is like glistening.
582
00:21:31,080 –> 00:21:32,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
583
00:21:32,080 –> 00:21:34,080
And then, like, also, I’ve got chickens.
584
00:21:34,080 –> 00:21:35,080
Why don’t my chickens eat them?
585
00:21:35,080 –> 00:21:36,080
Yeah.
586
00:21:36,080 –> 00:21:37,080
Who, why do we need slugs?
587
00:21:37,080 –> 00:21:38,080
It’s my question.
588
00:21:38,080 –> 00:21:39,080
Do we need slugs?
589
00:21:39,080 –> 00:21:40,080
I know.
590
00:21:40,080 –> 00:21:41,080
I don’t know.
591
00:21:41,080 –> 00:21:42,080
There must be something to do with biodiversity.
592
00:21:42,080 –> 00:21:43,080
Yeah, I’m sure.
593
00:21:43,080 –> 00:21:47,080
Because I don’t think they quite break down the soil like worms, do, obviously.
594
00:21:47,080 –> 00:21:48,080
Yeah.
595
00:21:48,080 –> 00:21:49,080
And I don’t think there is beneficial as snails.
596
00:21:49,080 –> 00:21:50,080
No.
597
00:21:50,080 –> 00:21:51,080
Yeah, I don’t know.
598
00:21:51,080 –> 00:21:52,080
I thought chicken slugs.
599
00:21:52,080 –> 00:21:53,080
I thought chicken slugs.
600
00:21:53,080 –> 00:21:54,080
I thought chicken slugs.
601
00:21:54,080 –> 00:21:55,080
I thought chicken slugs.
602
00:21:55,080 –> 00:21:56,080
I’ve got fussy chickens.
603
00:21:56,080 –> 00:21:57,080
You could have already put away at night, right?
604
00:21:57,080 –> 00:21:58,080
Yeah.
605
00:21:58,080 –> 00:21:59,080
So, there’s not a different way.
606
00:21:59,080 –> 00:22:01,080
Well, the thing is, slugs are a little bit more than that.
607
00:22:01,080 –> 00:22:02,080
Yeah.
608
00:22:02,080 –> 00:22:09,760
So, the thing is, slugs are a little bit like that one episode of X-Files, where there was
609
00:22:09,760 –> 00:22:12,080
that character that could get through any gap.
610
00:22:12,080 –> 00:22:13,080
Did you remember that?
611
00:22:13,080 –> 00:22:16,080
No, but my references, flat-standly, you also said X-Files.
612
00:22:16,080 –> 00:22:17,080
Flat-standly, yeah.
613
00:22:17,080 –> 00:22:18,080
See, I love flat-standly.
614
00:22:18,080 –> 00:22:19,080
Yeah.
615
00:22:19,080 –> 00:22:24,280
So, they can fit through incredibly small gaps, slugs.
616
00:22:24,280 –> 00:22:25,280
And they hide.
617
00:22:25,280 –> 00:22:27,280
They are daytime hiders.
618
00:22:27,280 –> 00:22:28,280
Yeah.
619
00:22:28,280 –> 00:22:29,280
So, they do.
620
00:22:29,280 –> 00:22:30,280
Yeah.
621
00:22:30,280 –> 00:22:34,160
And then that moment that you step out online, oh, I could put a milk bottle out for the
622
00:22:34,160 –> 00:22:36,160
milkman and put in your toes.
623
00:22:36,160 –> 00:22:37,160
A bit better.
624
00:22:37,160 –> 00:22:38,160
Yeah.
625
00:22:38,160 –> 00:22:39,160
Or for, or for, or for.
626
00:22:39,160 –> 00:22:40,160
Yeah.
627
00:22:40,160 –> 00:22:41,160
What is the point of them?
628
00:22:41,160 –> 00:22:42,160
That’s bad.
629
00:22:42,160 –> 00:22:43,160
That is bad.
630
00:22:43,160 –> 00:22:44,160
I’ve been ironed and do a slug run.
631
00:22:44,160 –> 00:22:45,160
Do you do a slug run?
632
00:22:45,160 –> 00:22:46,160
Do you do a slug run?
633
00:22:46,160 –> 00:22:47,160
Do you do a slug run?
634
00:22:47,160 –> 00:22:48,160
Do you do a slug run?
635
00:22:48,160 –> 00:22:49,160
Do you do a slug run?
636
00:22:49,160 –> 00:22:50,160
Do you do a slug run?
637
00:22:50,160 –> 00:22:51,160
Do you do a slug run?
638
00:22:51,160 –> 00:22:52,160
Do you do a slug run?
639
00:22:52,160 –> 00:22:53,160
Do you do a slug run?
640
00:22:53,160 –> 00:22:54,160
Do you do a slug run?
641
00:22:54,160 –> 00:22:55,160
Do you do a slug run?
642
00:22:55,160 –> 00:22:56,160
Do you do a slug run?
643
00:22:56,160 –> 00:23:05,040
Do you do a slug run?
644
00:23:05,040 –> 00:23:06,040
Do you do a slug run?
645
00:23:06,040 –> 00:23:07,040
Do you do a slug run?
646
00:23:07,040 –> 00:23:08,040
Do you do a slug run?
647
00:23:08,040 –> 00:23:09,040
Do you do a slug run?
648
00:23:09,040 –> 00:23:10,040
Do you do a slug run?
649
00:23:10,040 –> 00:23:11,040
Do you do a slug run?
650
00:23:11,040 –> 00:23:12,040
Do you do a slug run?
651
00:23:12,040 –> 00:23:13,040
Do you do a slug run?
652
00:23:13,040 –> 00:23:14,040
Do you do a slug run?
653
00:23:14,040 –> 00:23:15,040
Do you do a slug run?
654
00:23:15,040 –> 00:23:16,040
Do you do a slug run?
655
00:23:16,040 –> 00:23:17,040
Do you do a slug run?
656
00:23:17,040 –> 00:23:18,040
Do you do a slug run?
657
00:23:18,040 –> 00:23:19,040
Do you do a slug run?
658
00:23:19,040 –> 00:23:20,040
Do you do a slug run?
659
00:23:20,040 –> 00:23:21,040
Do you do a slug run?
660
00:23:21,040 –> 00:23:22,040
Do you do a slug run?
661
00:23:22,040 –> 00:23:23,040
Do you do a slug run?
662
00:23:23,040 –> 00:23:24,040
Do you do a slug run?
663
00:23:24,040 –> 00:23:25,040
Do you do a slug run?
664
00:23:25,040 –> 00:23:26,040
Do you do a slug run?
665
00:23:26,040 –> 00:23:27,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
666
00:23:27,040 –> 00:23:28,040
They must have lungs.
667
00:23:28,040 –> 00:23:29,040
They must have lungs.
668
00:23:29,040 –> 00:23:30,040
They must have lungs.
669
00:23:30,040 –> 00:23:31,040
They must have lungs.
670
00:23:31,040 –> 00:23:32,040
I don’t know.
671
00:23:32,040 –> 00:23:33,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
672
00:23:33,040 –> 00:23:34,040
They must have lungs.
673
00:23:34,040 –> 00:23:35,040
I don’t know.
674
00:23:35,040 –> 00:23:36,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
675
00:23:36,040 –> 00:23:37,040
They must have lungs.
676
00:23:37,040 –> 00:23:38,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
677
00:23:38,040 –> 00:23:39,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
678
00:23:39,040 –> 00:23:40,040
They must have lungs.
679
00:23:40,040 –> 00:23:41,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
680
00:23:41,040 –> 00:23:42,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
681
00:23:42,040 –> 00:23:43,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
682
00:23:43,040 –> 00:23:44,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
683
00:23:44,040 –> 00:23:45,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
684
00:23:45,040 –> 00:23:46,040
They must have lungs.
685
00:23:46,040 –> 00:23:47,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
686
00:23:47,040 –> 00:23:48,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
687
00:23:48,040 –> 00:23:49,040
They must have lungs.
688
00:23:49,040 –> 00:23:50,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
689
00:23:50,040 –> 00:23:51,040
They must have lungs.
690
00:23:51,040 –> 00:23:52,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
691
00:23:52,040 –> 00:23:53,040
They must have lungs.
692
00:23:53,040 –> 00:23:55,040
I suppose they have got lungs.
693
00:23:55,040 –> 00:23:56,040
No, because they’re pointless.
694
00:23:56,040 –> 00:23:57,040
What’s the point in teaching people about slugs?
695
00:23:57,040 –> 00:23:58,040
They do have to play for it.
696
00:23:58,040 –> 00:23:59,040
They have to play for it.
697
00:23:59,040 –> 00:24:00,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
698
00:24:00,040 –> 00:24:01,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
699
00:24:01,040 –> 00:24:02,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
700
00:24:02,040 –> 00:24:03,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
701
00:24:03,040 –> 00:24:04,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
702
00:24:04,040 –> 00:24:05,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
703
00:24:05,040 –> 00:24:06,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
704
00:24:06,040 –> 00:24:07,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
705
00:24:07,040 –> 00:24:08,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
706
00:24:08,040 –> 00:24:09,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
707
00:24:09,040 –> 00:24:10,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
708
00:24:10,040 –> 00:24:11,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
709
00:24:11,040 –> 00:24:12,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
710
00:24:12,040 –> 00:24:13,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
711
00:24:13,040 –> 00:24:14,040
I suppose they have to play for it.
712
00:24:14,040 –> 00:24:24,040
For the world slugs live under your deck in as well.
713
00:24:24,040 –> 00:24:26,040
I would love some hedgehogs.
714
00:24:26,040 –> 00:24:27,040
Okay.
715
00:24:27,040 –> 00:24:29,040
Listen to things to do tonight then.
716
00:24:29,040 –> 00:24:30,040
Okay.
717
00:24:30,040 –> 00:24:32,040
Then you’ve got to be careful with your hedgehogs.
718
00:24:32,040 –> 00:24:33,040
So be careful with your hedgehogs.
719
00:24:33,040 –> 00:24:34,040
Careful with your compost tape with hedgehogs.
720
00:24:34,040 –> 00:24:35,040
Why?
721
00:24:35,040 –> 00:24:38,040
Because they like to go in and sleep in compost tape.
722
00:24:38,040 –> 00:24:39,040
Why do they need to be careful?
723
00:24:39,040 –> 00:24:41,040
Well, because you can kill a hedgehog easily.
724
00:24:41,040 –> 00:24:44,040
Oh, okay.
725
00:24:44,040 –> 00:24:46,040
Yeah, by sort of digging in with your fork.
726
00:24:46,040 –> 00:24:47,040
Oh, of course.
727
00:24:47,040 –> 00:24:48,040
Yeah, okay.
728
00:24:48,040 –> 00:24:49,040
You can kill it.
729
00:24:49,040 –> 00:24:50,040
Oh, of course.
730
00:24:50,040 –> 00:24:51,040
This is Ted to Springwatch.
731
00:24:51,040 –> 00:24:52,040
Oh, yeah.
732
00:24:52,040 –> 00:24:53,040
Who knew?
733
00:24:53,040 –> 00:24:55,040
Perhaps there’s a new direction for the podcast.
734
00:24:55,040 –> 00:24:59,040
So, yeah, so slugs on my 100% with you on that.
735
00:24:59,040 –> 00:25:00,040
Okay.
736
00:25:00,040 –> 00:25:01,040
So Steve, by the sound.
737
00:25:01,040 –> 00:25:02,040
Yeah.
738
00:25:02,040 –> 00:25:03,040
Sound by people.
739
00:25:03,040 –> 00:25:04,040
Yeah, I’ll give you a minute.
740
00:25:04,040 –> 00:25:05,040
Yeah.
741
00:25:05,040 –> 00:25:06,040
You’ll show off.
742
00:25:06,040 –> 00:25:07,040
Yeah.
743
00:25:07,040 –> 00:25:08,040
What are you?
744
00:25:08,040 –> 00:25:09,040
I don’t know.
745
00:25:09,040 –> 00:25:10,040
Really?
746
00:25:10,040 –> 00:25:10,040
Yeah, I don’t know.
747
00:25:10,040 –> 00:25:11,040
It’s that.
748
00:25:11,040 –> 00:25:12,040
Town slugs.
749
00:25:12,040 –> 00:25:15,040
Slugs get to their outskirts of a town going on.
750
00:25:15,040 –> 00:25:16,040
Oh, no, thanks.
751
00:25:16,040 –> 00:25:17,040
That’s a town.
752
00:25:17,040 –> 00:25:18,040
It’s a town, I’m not going on a big point.
753
00:25:18,040 –> 00:25:19,040
Yeah, time to drive.
754
00:25:19,040 –> 00:25:20,040
We’re not going in there.
755
00:25:20,040 –> 00:25:21,040
We’re going in there.
756
00:25:21,040 –> 00:25:22,040
It’s way too.
757
00:25:22,040 –> 00:25:23,040
I’ll be a little minigun.
758
00:25:23,040 –> 00:25:28,040
(Music)
759
00:25:28,040 –> 00:25:31,040
Work, rest, and what about going out?
760
00:25:31,040 –> 00:25:32,040
Okay.
761
00:25:32,040 –> 00:25:34,040
I’ve taken a different tactic going out because
762
00:25:34,040 –> 00:25:36,040
don’t go out that often.
763
00:25:36,040 –> 00:25:37,040
No.
764
00:25:37,040 –> 00:25:38,040
Sadly, anymore.
765
00:25:38,040 –> 00:25:39,040
Yeah.
766
00:25:39,040 –> 00:25:44,040
I’ve been a competitive swimmer most of my life until recently.
767
00:25:44,040 –> 00:25:45,040
I watch it, okay.
768
00:25:45,040 –> 00:25:49,040
So, my get shirty is people who go in the fast lane
769
00:25:49,040 –> 00:25:50,040
they shouldn’t be in the fast lane.
770
00:25:50,040 –> 00:25:51,040
Right, okay.
771
00:25:51,040 –> 00:25:53,040
And I’m going to say something controversial now.
772
00:25:53,040 –> 00:25:56,040
They’re normally middle-aged men who are in the fast lane.
773
00:25:56,040 –> 00:25:58,040
That shouldn’t be in the fast lane.
774
00:25:58,040 –> 00:26:00,040
And I will get in the fast lane.
775
00:26:00,040 –> 00:26:01,040
Yeah.
776
00:26:01,040 –> 00:26:03,040
And I will swim and they’ll inevitably lap them.
777
00:26:03,040 –> 00:26:04,040
Yeah.
778
00:26:04,040 –> 00:26:08,040
And then they get really shirty that someone has overtaken them.
779
00:26:08,040 –> 00:26:12,040
And sometimes when I train I strap my feet together.
780
00:26:12,040 –> 00:26:13,040
Right.
781
00:26:13,040 –> 00:26:14,040
And put weights on the end.
782
00:26:14,040 –> 00:26:16,040
I rendering my legs useless.
783
00:26:16,040 –> 00:26:17,040
Okay.
784
00:26:17,040 –> 00:26:18,040
To build my arms.
785
00:26:18,040 –> 00:26:21,040
And when I do that, quite often,
786
00:26:21,040 –> 00:26:24,040
those people who’ve got shirty with me being faster than them,
787
00:26:24,040 –> 00:26:26,040
really enjoy the fact that they can lap for me
788
00:26:26,040 –> 00:26:28,040
and be really quite victriolic about it.
789
00:26:28,040 –> 00:26:29,040
Right, I can.
790
00:26:29,040 –> 00:26:30,040
When I’ve rendered half my body useless.
791
00:26:30,040 –> 00:26:31,040
Right, okay.
792
00:26:31,040 –> 00:26:33,040
Just such a hollow victory.
793
00:26:33,040 –> 00:26:34,040
Yeah.
794
00:26:34,040 –> 00:26:37,040
But it’s this sort of unspoken shirtiness within the pool.
795
00:26:37,040 –> 00:26:38,040
Yeah.
796
00:26:38,040 –> 00:26:40,040
That really reminds me of it is.
797
00:26:40,040 –> 00:26:41,040
Yeah.
798
00:26:41,040 –> 00:26:43,040
So there’s a lot, there’s a lot.
799
00:26:43,040 –> 00:26:45,040
Is there a lot to pick there, though?
800
00:26:45,040 –> 00:26:47,040
Well, I think there is, because look, it’s etiquette.
801
00:26:47,040 –> 00:26:48,040
Yeah, is it etiquette?
802
00:26:48,040 –> 00:26:51,040
And they’re not following the agreed etiquette.
803
00:26:51,040 –> 00:26:52,040
Yes.
804
00:26:52,040 –> 00:26:55,040
Which, so there’s a shirty straight off the bat.
805
00:26:55,040 –> 00:26:56,040
Yeah.
806
00:26:56,040 –> 00:27:00,040
That sort of entitlement is in there as well, surely.
807
00:27:00,040 –> 00:27:01,040
Yeah, absolutely.
808
00:27:01,040 –> 00:27:05,040
And then the, well, like the hollow victory is, you say,
809
00:27:05,040 –> 00:27:08,040
that sort of ego, yeah.
810
00:27:08,040 –> 00:27:13,040
I mean, that, look, being a man of a certain age,
811
00:27:13,040 –> 00:27:18,040
it never ceases to amaze me how that sort of male ego,
812
00:27:18,040 –> 00:27:20,040
I mean, is it generally,
813
00:27:20,040 –> 00:27:22,040
and is it the same group of men?
814
00:27:22,040 –> 00:27:24,040
I mean, I don’t recognise that.
815
00:27:24,040 –> 00:27:25,040
Oh, right.
816
00:27:25,040 –> 00:27:26,040
It’s not like me.
817
00:27:26,040 –> 00:27:27,040
It’s like four blocs.
818
00:27:27,040 –> 00:27:28,040
No, no, no.
819
00:27:28,040 –> 00:27:29,040
No, no.
820
00:27:29,040 –> 00:27:30,040
You can almost always spot them.
821
00:27:30,040 –> 00:27:31,040
Right.
822
00:27:31,040 –> 00:27:33,040
And I think it’s because when I come,
823
00:27:33,040 –> 00:27:36,040
I think the great thing about swimming is that people can be excellence swimmers,
824
00:27:36,040 –> 00:27:38,040
but you wouldn’t know it by looking at them until they get in the water.
825
00:27:38,040 –> 00:27:39,040
Right, I think.
826
00:27:39,040 –> 00:27:44,040
And I think a lot of people who perhaps haven’t grown up in the swimming world don’t really know that.
827
00:27:44,040 –> 00:27:48,040
So they will, like, go, all the, you know, the slim muscle bloke is going to be the better swimmer.
828
00:27:48,040 –> 00:27:49,040
Yeah.
829
00:27:49,040 –> 00:27:51,040
I’m like, just watch Jasper.
830
00:27:51,040 –> 00:27:53,040
And I’ll, like, get in the water and I’ll whip him.
831
00:27:53,040 –> 00:27:54,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
832
00:27:54,040 –> 00:27:56,040
And I think it’s, it’s humbling.
833
00:27:56,040 –> 00:27:57,040
Yeah.
834
00:27:57,040 –> 00:27:58,040
Don’t get me wrong.
835
00:27:58,040 –> 00:27:59,040
I’m rubbish at every other sport.
836
00:27:59,040 –> 00:28:00,040
Okay.
837
00:28:00,040 –> 00:28:01,040
And therefore I wouldn’t enter.
838
00:28:01,040 –> 00:28:06,040
I wouldn’t enter myself into the first league of football because I know I’m not good enough for that.
839
00:28:06,040 –> 00:28:07,040
Yeah.
840
00:28:07,040 –> 00:28:11,040
I think it’s just there’s something about swimming where people go fast-ling, yeah, that’s me.
841
00:28:11,040 –> 00:28:12,040
Yeah.
842
00:28:12,040 –> 00:28:13,040
No, it’s not.
843
00:28:13,040 –> 00:28:14,040
No, it’s not.
844
00:28:14,040 –> 00:28:16,040
And no other sport with that exists.
845
00:28:16,040 –> 00:28:22,040
No, yeah, like the football one, you can have somebody run out on the pitch run really slowly in front of the person who’s talking about the ball.
846
00:28:22,040 –> 00:28:25,040
And then turn round and sort of, like, get across of them.
847
00:28:25,040 –> 00:28:27,040
Yeah, same reason I don’t enter myself into Wimbledon.
848
00:28:27,040 –> 00:28:28,040
Yeah.
849
00:28:28,040 –> 00:28:29,040
I’m not of that level.
850
00:28:29,040 –> 00:28:30,040
No.
851
00:28:30,040 –> 00:28:32,040
Yeah, like I said niche, sorry, niche.
852
00:28:32,040 –> 00:28:36,040
No, but I don’t think that’s as niche as, okay.
853
00:28:36,040 –> 00:28:41,040
I would say, I mean, I don’t go to swimming pool particularly.
854
00:28:41,040 –> 00:28:49,040
I’m not a great swimmer, but I know having spoken to other people who do go swimming, the fast lane is a thing.
855
00:28:49,040 –> 00:28:50,040
Yeah.
856
00:28:50,040 –> 00:28:51,040
You know, it’s there for a reason, isn’t it?
857
00:28:51,040 –> 00:28:52,040
Yeah.
858
00:28:52,040 –> 00:28:56,040
It’s not there for, you know, just a general spruce about it.
859
00:28:56,040 –> 00:28:57,040
Yeah.
860
00:28:57,040 –> 00:29:00,040
So, if you’re a breaststroke with your head up, you have no place in the fast lane.
861
00:29:00,040 –> 00:29:01,040
Right.
862
00:29:01,040 –> 00:29:03,040
There’s my controversial take.
863
00:29:03,040 –> 00:29:04,040
Swimming hat?
864
00:29:04,040 –> 00:29:06,040
Yeah, swimming hat goggles, always, for me.
865
00:29:06,040 –> 00:29:08,040
Oh, yeah, it’s a very young, I try to sport video, probably.
866
00:29:08,040 –> 00:29:09,040
Yeah.
867
00:29:09,040 –> 00:29:10,040
Yeah.
868
00:29:10,040 –> 00:29:13,040
It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a strong look.
869
00:29:13,040 –> 00:29:14,040
Yeah.
870
00:29:14,040 –> 00:29:20,040
Yeah, I mean, perhaps, you know, when you get your shirt that we’ve done for your props, you know, you could rock that look.
871
00:29:20,040 –> 00:29:21,040
You could try it.
872
00:29:21,040 –> 00:29:22,040
Yeah, it’s like how you’d have to rock that look.
873
00:29:22,040 –> 00:29:23,040
Yeah.
874
00:29:23,040 –> 00:29:27,040
Yeah, nice, nice linen shirt. I think we haven’t, we’re, we’ll talk about the shirt in a minute, but.
875
00:29:27,040 –> 00:29:32,040
Yeah, I know, I think it is, but it, it, there is an etiquette to it, isn’t it?
876
00:29:32,040 –> 00:29:34,040
And it’s, see, that’s a git shirt.
877
00:29:34,040 –> 00:29:37,040
It’s, on its own, you know, you could have sort of gone with that.
878
00:29:37,040 –> 00:29:39,040
Or if there’s an etiquette, and people don’t follow it.
879
00:29:39,040 –> 00:29:40,040
Yes.
880
00:29:40,040 –> 00:29:41,040
Yeah, I think that’s a universal, isn’t it?
881
00:29:41,040 –> 00:29:42,040
Yeah.
882
00:29:42,040 –> 00:29:49,040
And also, just, not be humble that I hate that phrase, but just like, I think just owning where your strengths are, maybe,
883
00:29:49,040 –> 00:29:53,040
or they’re not as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People could be better than you at things.
884
00:29:53,040 –> 00:29:54,040
And that’s okay.
885
00:29:54,040 –> 00:29:55,040
Yeah, and that’s okay.
886
00:29:55,040 –> 00:29:59,040
People are better than me at absolutely everything, but sometimes I’m better than you in the pool.
887
00:29:59,040 –> 00:30:00,040
And that’s all right.
888
00:30:00,040 –> 00:30:02,040
And you’ve got your own lanes over there.
889
00:30:02,040 –> 00:30:03,040
Yeah.
890
00:30:03,040 –> 00:30:05,040
This is the lane where I can, yeah, swim fast.
891
00:30:05,040 –> 00:30:08,040
Yeah, actually, swim up and down without going in the fast lane.
892
00:30:08,040 –> 00:30:09,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
893
00:30:09,040 –> 00:30:10,040
Yeah, yeah.
894
00:30:10,040 –> 00:30:15,040
I tell you where it’s really good is Pell’s Paul in Lewis, which is beautiful, I do.
895
00:30:15,040 –> 00:30:16,040
Lovely, cold.
896
00:30:16,040 –> 00:30:17,040
Right.
897
00:30:17,040 –> 00:30:23,040
And when I go there, I do not go anywhere near that fast lane because I know the people who use that Paul, they’re serious people.
898
00:30:23,040 –> 00:30:24,040
Right, okay.
899
00:30:24,040 –> 00:30:26,040
Because it’s a 50 meter pool, it’s outdoors and it’s not heated.
900
00:30:26,040 –> 00:30:29,040
So the people that are in that pool are there to swim.
901
00:30:29,040 –> 00:30:30,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
902
00:30:30,040 –> 00:30:31,040
And don’t properly.
903
00:30:31,040 –> 00:30:33,040
So yeah, I wouldn’t dare venture into a fast lane there.
904
00:30:33,040 –> 00:30:34,040
Yeah.
905
00:30:34,040 –> 00:30:36,040
I’ll go down to medium, possibly even slower if I’m having a lazy day.
906
00:30:36,040 –> 00:30:37,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
907
00:30:37,040 –> 00:30:39,040
Just knowing, knowing your pace.
908
00:30:39,040 –> 00:30:40,040
Yeah, yeah, that’s good.
909
00:30:40,040 –> 00:30:42,040
So all the expand on your shirt, yeah?
910
00:30:42,040 –> 00:30:43,040
Okay, go on.
911
00:30:43,040 –> 00:30:44,040
Different perspective.
912
00:30:44,040 –> 00:30:45,040
Yeah.
913
00:30:45,040 –> 00:30:46,040
It’s the other way around.
914
00:30:46,040 –> 00:30:51,040
It’s people who are in the recreation side who should be over in the ladies.
915
00:30:51,040 –> 00:30:52,040
Oh, okay.
916
00:30:52,040 –> 00:30:54,040
Oh, it’s controversial, but I get it.
917
00:30:54,040 –> 00:30:55,040
Because I can’t swim.
918
00:30:55,040 –> 00:30:56,040
Okay.
919
00:30:56,040 –> 00:30:59,040
I’m learning to, my wife’s a swim instructor.
920
00:30:59,040 –> 00:31:02,040
So a few years ago, she was teaching me to swim.
921
00:31:02,040 –> 00:31:08,040
I was learning to swim and of course people that should have been over there swimming, were getting annoyed at me because of my friends.
922
00:31:08,040 –> 00:31:10,040
Oh, yeah, that’s not fair either.
923
00:31:10,040 –> 00:31:11,040
It’s both enough having the children go.
924
00:31:11,040 –> 00:31:15,040
Why is that man got all those noodles around him, daddy?
925
00:31:15,040 –> 00:31:16,040
There you go.
926
00:31:16,040 –> 00:31:17,040
I feel like bad luck.
927
00:31:17,040 –> 00:31:20,040
When you’ve got people who can swim, get out of the way.
928
00:31:20,040 –> 00:31:22,040
Yeah, there’s a space for you.
929
00:31:22,040 –> 00:31:23,040
Yeah, as much as you like.
930
00:31:23,040 –> 00:31:24,040
Yeah.
931
00:31:24,040 –> 00:31:25,040
So it wasn’t both places.
932
00:31:25,040 –> 00:31:26,040
It’s 100% does.
933
00:31:26,040 –> 00:31:27,040
Yeah.
934
00:31:27,040 –> 00:31:28,040
Yeah.
935
00:31:28,040 –> 00:31:33,040
And, and Jessica, you know, that’s, that’s poor Jessica, either way, isn’t it?
936
00:31:33,040 –> 00:31:34,040
Yeah.
937
00:31:34,040 –> 00:31:35,040
Yeah.
938
00:31:35,040 –> 00:31:38,040
See, I need the sink lane, I think, is the lane.
939
00:31:38,040 –> 00:31:40,040
Just getting, go straight down.
940
00:31:40,040 –> 00:31:43,040
Or the diving pit basically, just found at the bottom somewhere.
941
00:31:43,040 –> 00:31:45,040
Or a lane that goes width ways.
942
00:31:45,040 –> 00:31:49,040
Yeah, but, yeah, I do a width and I’m a bit tuckered out.
943
00:31:49,040 –> 00:31:51,040
I have a little sit on the side.
944
00:31:51,040 –> 00:31:53,040
Oh, that Jacuzzi looks quite nice over there.
945
00:31:53,040 –> 00:31:54,040
I’ll go there.
946
00:31:54,040 –> 00:31:55,040
Yeah.
947
00:31:55,040 –> 00:32:02,040
I do think swimming is really humbling because I used to trade loads and therefore could get in and not get puffed out for a long time.
948
00:32:02,040 –> 00:32:09,040
And then we went away recently and I did a couple of lengths and I’m like, oh, very quickly lose that stamina
949
00:32:09,040 –> 00:32:11,040
and after a couple of lengths, I’m blowing out my ass.
950
00:32:11,040 –> 00:32:18,040
So, I think it, unless you do it a lot, I think it’s a necklace walk because it’s a full body workout.
951
00:32:18,040 –> 00:32:24,040
It’s, you know, it’s cardio, but using every muscle in your body at the same time, which is why they always recommend it as being a great exercise.
952
00:32:24,040 –> 00:32:25,040
Yeah, yeah.
953
00:32:25,040 –> 00:32:26,040
Because it’s tough, but good.
954
00:32:26,040 –> 00:32:27,040
And disciplined.
955
00:32:27,040 –> 00:32:31,040
You know, I could, I’m not very good at that and breathe.
956
00:32:31,040 –> 00:32:32,040
Yeah.
957
00:32:32,040 –> 00:32:33,040
Breathe now.
958
00:32:33,040 –> 00:32:35,040
How much should I leave it for or five?
959
00:32:35,040 –> 00:32:43,040
I should, I’d be doing it every single time. That’s sort of side-breathing and then I drink a load of water and then it puts me off of it.
960
00:32:43,040 –> 00:32:44,040
Maybe strong.
961
00:32:44,040 –> 00:32:46,040
Front call or fly.
962
00:32:46,040 –> 00:32:47,040
I used to complete fly.
963
00:32:47,040 –> 00:32:49,040
So, I used to look at it.
964
00:32:49,040 –> 00:32:50,040
Yeah.
965
00:32:50,040 –> 00:32:52,040
If it’s done well, I’m not sure I do do it well.
966
00:32:52,040 –> 00:32:55,040
There’s some of the I know who used to always be in the same swimming category as me.
967
00:32:55,040 –> 00:33:01,040
And every competition we went to from the ages of, like, I took that I competed from the age of like 11.
968
00:33:01,040 –> 00:33:02,040
Right.
969
00:33:02,040 –> 00:33:03,040
All the way up to mid-30s.
970
00:33:03,040 –> 00:33:04,040
Right.
971
00:33:04,040 –> 00:33:11,040
With a gap in the middle, but she was always in my age category and she was the most beautiful swimmer that,
972
00:33:11,040 –> 00:33:17,040
and whenever she would go to any competition around the country, when she got in water, everybody stopped and watched.
973
00:33:17,040 –> 00:33:18,040
Right.
974
00:33:18,040 –> 00:33:19,040
It was majestic.
975
00:33:19,040 –> 00:33:21,040
It was like a dolphin meets human.
976
00:33:21,040 –> 00:33:22,040
Right.
977
00:33:22,040 –> 00:33:25,040
And you know, you’re like, we’re doing the same stroke, but why do I not look like that?
978
00:33:25,040 –> 00:33:27,040
And she, yeah, and she always beat me.
979
00:33:27,040 –> 00:33:30,040
Like, the one year that she didn’t compete with my year and I got a medal.
980
00:33:30,040 –> 00:33:32,040
And every other time she was just always, yeah.
981
00:33:32,040 –> 00:33:33,040
Yeah.
982
00:33:33,040 –> 00:33:36,040
It was really better than me, but yeah, when people can do it well, it is so impressive.
983
00:33:36,040 –> 00:33:43,040
Yeah, it’s that sort of natural, I don’t know, I suppose, it’s that fluidity.
984
00:33:43,040 –> 00:33:44,040
Yeah.
985
00:33:44,040 –> 00:33:49,040
But I find that with people like, when I see people running and they make it look really easy, when I run, no.
986
00:33:49,040 –> 00:33:50,040
Yeah.
987
00:33:50,040 –> 00:33:51,040
And it doesn’t look like that.
988
00:33:51,040 –> 00:33:52,040
But it’s the same thing.
989
00:33:52,040 –> 00:33:55,040
We’re both putting one leg in front of the other, so why don’t I look exactly like that?
990
00:33:55,040 –> 00:33:58,040
When my husband, Matt, he’s very tall, very long, natural runner.
991
00:33:58,040 –> 00:34:04,040
We did the Brighton Marathon together years ago and I’m not a runner, it’s not something I enjoy, but I just wanted to have done a marathon.
992
00:34:04,040 –> 00:34:05,040
Yeah.
993
00:34:05,040 –> 00:34:06,040
And for the first three miles, bless him.
994
00:34:06,040 –> 00:34:09,040
He stayed with me, he sort of matched my pace.
995
00:34:09,040 –> 00:34:10,040
Yeah.
996
00:34:10,040 –> 00:34:13,040
And then after a couple of miles, I sort of looked at him and I was like, go on then.
997
00:34:13,040 –> 00:34:17,040
And he sort of like opened up his gate, like he’s like the BFG.
998
00:34:17,040 –> 00:34:22,040
Yeah, just he strides, like one of his strides is like three of my plottons.
999
00:34:22,040 –> 00:34:23,040
Yeah.
1000
00:34:23,040 –> 00:34:25,040
And he took off like a spring ball.
1001
00:34:25,040 –> 00:34:26,040
Yeah.
1002
00:34:26,040 –> 00:34:31,040
And then he took off for 26.4 miles, and he just opened up and he was gone.
1003
00:34:31,040 –> 00:34:35,040
I was like, I suppose, is that it, then physiology, do you think?
1004
00:34:35,040 –> 00:34:36,040
I think so, definitely.
1005
00:34:36,040 –> 00:34:38,040
And also how much you do it.
1006
00:34:38,040 –> 00:34:39,040
Yeah.
1007
00:34:39,040 –> 00:34:41,040
There was practice.
1008
00:34:41,040 –> 00:34:45,040
And you enjoyed, so when you competed, was that sort of nationwide, did you go?
1009
00:34:45,040 –> 00:34:48,040
Yeah, I mean, I was never that committed.
1010
00:34:48,040 –> 00:34:51,040
There was people who used to do nationals and I never got to nationals.
1011
00:34:51,040 –> 00:34:53,040
I used to do counties.
1012
00:34:53,040 –> 00:34:54,040
Okay.
1013
00:34:54,040 –> 00:34:57,040
So was that getting up at five in the morning, going training before school?
1014
00:34:57,040 –> 00:34:59,040
That’s what it should have been.
1015
00:34:59,040 –> 00:35:00,040
I did it for a while.
1016
00:35:00,040 –> 00:35:02,040
And then I would only train twice a week.
1017
00:35:02,040 –> 00:35:03,040
Right.
1018
00:35:03,040 –> 00:35:07,040
The people who took it really seriously would do three or four mornings before school.
1019
00:35:07,040 –> 00:35:09,040
And then the same training sessions in the after school.
1020
00:35:09,040 –> 00:35:14,040
I just, I was into boys, so I didn’t really like took too much time, you know?
1021
00:35:14,040 –> 00:35:15,040
Yeah.
1022
00:35:15,040 –> 00:35:18,040
But it was definitely, definitely my sport.
1023
00:35:18,040 –> 00:35:19,040
Yeah.
1024
00:35:19,040 –> 00:35:20,040
But I was just never that committed.
1025
00:35:20,040 –> 00:35:22,040
That’s the difference, isn’t it?
1026
00:35:22,040 –> 00:35:23,040
Yeah.
1027
00:35:23,040 –> 00:35:28,040
Yeah, I suppose it is, but and the love of it.
1028
00:35:28,040 –> 00:35:29,040
Yeah.
1029
00:35:29,040 –> 00:35:30,040
Sometimes you can really like something.
1030
00:35:30,040 –> 00:35:31,040
Yeah.
1031
00:35:31,040 –> 00:35:32,040
Go, yeah, enjoy doing this.
1032
00:35:32,040 –> 00:35:34,040
And then sometimes you go, actually, I love this.
1033
00:35:34,040 –> 00:35:35,040
Yeah.
1034
00:35:35,040 –> 00:35:36,040
And I don’t want to do anything else.
1035
00:35:36,040 –> 00:35:37,040
Yeah.
1036
00:35:37,040 –> 00:35:38,040
I never reached that point.
1037
00:35:38,040 –> 00:35:43,040
I think a lot of mine was driven by the fact that my coach from the age of four, a guy called Ted,
1038
00:35:43,040 –> 00:35:45,040
he was the same coach until I was 34.
1039
00:35:45,040 –> 00:35:46,040
Right.
1040
00:35:46,040 –> 00:35:48,040
And so when he retired, I was like, do you know what?
1041
00:35:48,040 –> 00:35:49,040
It was, it was him.
1042
00:35:49,040 –> 00:35:50,040
Yeah.
1043
00:35:50,040 –> 00:35:51,040
That was the driver.
1044
00:35:51,040 –> 00:35:53,040
And when he retired, I retired.
1045
00:35:53,040 –> 00:35:54,040
I retired.
1046
00:35:54,040 –> 00:35:55,040
I retired.
1047
00:35:55,040 –> 00:35:56,040
I retired.
1048
00:35:56,040 –> 00:35:57,040
I retired.
1049
00:35:57,040 –> 00:35:58,040
I retired.
1050
00:35:58,040 –> 00:35:59,040
I retired.
1051
00:35:59,040 –> 00:36:00,040
I retired.
1052
00:36:00,040 –> 00:36:01,040
I retired.
1053
00:36:01,040 –> 00:36:02,040
I retired.
1054
00:36:02,040 –> 00:36:03,040
I retired.
1055
00:36:03,040 –> 00:36:04,040
I retired.
1056
00:36:04,040 –> 00:36:05,040
I retired.
1057
00:36:05,040 –> 00:36:06,040
I retired.
1058
00:36:06,040 –> 00:36:07,040
I retired.
1059
00:36:07,040 –> 00:36:07,040
I retired.
1060
00:36:07,040 –> 00:36:08,040
I retired.
1061
00:36:08,040 –> 00:36:09,040
I retired.
1062
00:36:09,040 –> 00:36:10,040
I retired.
1063
00:36:10,040 –> 00:36:11,040
I retired.
1064
00:36:11,040 –> 00:36:12,040
But, yeah, I think, yeah, it’s whether it’s a vocation or a passion.
1065
00:36:12,040 –> 00:36:13,040
Yeah.
1066
00:36:13,040 –> 00:36:14,040
And it was the passion.
1067
00:36:14,040 –> 00:36:15,040
Yeah.
1068
00:36:15,040 –> 00:36:16,040
That was sinkley word, yeah.
1069
00:36:16,040 –> 00:36:17,040
Well done.
1070
00:36:17,040 –> 00:36:20,040
Once again, showing, showing why you are the professional journalist.
1071
00:36:20,040 –> 00:36:21,040
Yeah.
1072
00:36:21,040 –> 00:36:22,040
You’ve heard about the shirt that we’re doing for you.
1073
00:36:22,040 –> 00:36:23,040
You’ve heard about it.
1074
00:36:23,040 –> 00:36:24,040
Yeah.
1075
00:36:24,040 –> 00:36:25,040
You’ve heard about it.
1076
00:36:25,040 –> 00:36:27,040
Actually, it’s a little bit different because this is a linen.
1077
00:36:27,040 –> 00:36:28,040
Yeah.
1078
00:36:28,040 –> 00:36:29,040
This is, I think, in the podcast.
1079
00:36:29,040 –> 00:36:31,040
This is our first linen, isn’t it?
1080
00:36:31,040 –> 00:36:32,040
Oh, good.
1081
00:36:32,040 –> 00:36:33,040
Oh, good.
1082
00:36:33,040 –> 00:36:34,040
Okay.
1083
00:36:34,040 –> 00:36:35,040
You’re breaking the mold.
1084
00:36:35,040 –> 00:36:36,040
Yes.
1085
00:36:36,040 –> 00:36:39,040
Well, I don’t have formal wear on any real need for formal wear.
1086
00:36:39,040 –> 00:36:40,040
Yeah.
1087
00:36:40,040 –> 00:36:44,040
And therefore, linen shirts, that’s the vibe, I think.
1088
00:36:44,040 –> 00:36:45,040
Yeah.
1089
00:36:45,040 –> 00:36:46,040
I’m excited to see.
1090
00:36:46,040 –> 00:36:47,040
Yeah.
1091
00:36:47,040 –> 00:36:49,040
And did you enjoy the process of doing it?
1092
00:36:49,040 –> 00:36:49,040
Yeah.
1093
00:36:49,040 –> 00:36:50,040
Yeah.
1094
00:36:50,040 –> 00:36:51,040
It’s interesting.
1095
00:36:51,040 –> 00:36:53,040
It sounds very obvious.
1096
00:36:53,040 –> 00:36:54,040
It’s sat here in a tailor’s shop.
1097
00:36:54,040 –> 00:36:59,040
But the process of going out and buying clothes, you never break it down into the components.
1098
00:36:59,040 –> 00:37:00,040
Yeah.
1099
00:37:00,040 –> 00:37:03,040
And obviously going through the components of the, you know, the cuff, the sleeve, the this,
1100
00:37:03,040 –> 00:37:04,040
the that.
1101
00:37:04,040 –> 00:37:05,040
Yeah.
1102
00:37:05,040 –> 00:37:06,040
And like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
1103
00:37:06,040 –> 00:37:07,040
Yeah.
1104
00:37:07,040 –> 00:37:11,040
Whereas when you go to a shop and buy something off the shelf, you don’t ever look at it in that context.
1105
00:37:11,040 –> 00:37:12,040
No.
1106
00:37:12,040 –> 00:37:13,040
It’s funny, actually.
1107
00:37:13,040 –> 00:37:20,040
So, that’s something I say to customers here. It’s like it buying a tailored garment is about
1108
00:37:20,040 –> 00:37:25,040
the building up the relationship, you know, to the person who’s tailoring it for you, but also
1109
00:37:25,040 –> 00:37:29,040
to the garment itself, buying something from a clothes shop is a transaction.
1110
00:37:29,040 –> 00:37:31,040
And there are different things.
1111
00:37:31,040 –> 00:37:36,040
You know, you’re looking for the choice that’s there and going, that suits me.
1112
00:37:36,040 –> 00:37:39,040
That’s as close to what I can get that’s in my head.
1113
00:37:39,040 –> 00:37:40,040
Yeah.
1114
00:37:40,040 –> 00:37:41,040
And I’ve just gone by it.
1115
00:37:41,040 –> 00:37:48,040
Yeah, there is no relationship to, or even having to think beyond the, what choice is there,
1116
00:37:48,040 –> 00:37:54,040
you know, like you’re choosing from a preset menu and you might not sort of, you know, quite
1117
00:37:54,040 –> 00:37:55,040
want that for dinner.
1118
00:37:55,040 –> 00:37:59,040
You might want this bit, you know, most potatoes instead of chips, you know.
1119
00:37:59,040 –> 00:38:00,040
Yeah.
1120
00:38:00,040 –> 00:38:05,040
I think it’s a real, but it’s like a real privilege to have something made for you like that.
1121
00:38:05,040 –> 00:38:09,040
Like I think not saying, I just think it’s a, it’s a luxury, not a luxury.
1122
00:38:09,040 –> 00:38:11,040
I mean, you think all the wrong adjectives are there.
1123
00:38:11,040 –> 00:38:12,040
No, but you’re right.
1124
00:38:12,040 –> 00:38:17,040
You know, like that’s a lovely experience to have something that you know is made for you,
1125
00:38:17,040 –> 00:38:19,040
which is not commonplace.
1126
00:38:19,040 –> 00:38:20,040
Yeah.
1127
00:38:20,040 –> 00:38:21,040
That’s not your everyday on the whole, is it?
1128
00:38:21,040 –> 00:38:22,040
I wish it was.
1129
00:38:22,040 –> 00:38:23,040
Yeah.
1130
00:38:23,040 –> 00:38:24,040
I wish it was.
1131
00:38:24,040 –> 00:38:25,040
Yeah.
1132
00:38:25,040 –> 00:38:26,040
But it’s not.
1133
00:38:26,040 –> 00:38:27,040
So it’s, yeah, it was a lovely experience to kind of go through.
1134
00:38:27,040 –> 00:38:29,040
It’s a bit like a house.
1135
00:38:29,040 –> 00:38:30,040
A house.
1136
00:38:30,040 –> 00:38:31,040
Yeah.
1137
00:38:31,040 –> 00:38:32,040
A little waste of your issue.
1138
00:38:32,040 –> 00:38:33,040
Yeah, there we are.
1139
00:38:33,040 –> 00:38:34,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s it.
1140
00:38:34,040 –> 00:38:39,040
It’s a way, and it is like a house, isn’t it? You know, you’re building your own property,
1141
00:38:39,040 –> 00:38:41,040
which is how you want it to be.
1142
00:38:41,040 –> 00:38:42,040
Yeah, exactly.
1143
00:38:42,040 –> 00:38:44,040
You know, and you’ve got to consider everything.
1144
00:38:44,040 –> 00:38:48,040
And, you know, sometimes there might be a compromise because of cost price, you know,
1145
00:38:48,040 –> 00:38:49,040
same Italian, really.
1146
00:38:49,040 –> 00:38:50,040
Yeah.
1147
00:38:50,040 –> 00:38:54,040
You know, but the most, as we were saying before, we started recording the most expensive thing,
1148
00:38:54,040 –> 00:38:56,040
might not be the right thing for you.
1149
00:38:56,040 –> 00:38:57,040
Yeah.
1150
00:38:57,040 –> 00:38:58,040
You know, what do you want it for?
1151
00:38:58,040 –> 00:38:59,040
How often are you going to wear it?
1152
00:38:59,040 –> 00:39:00,040
Yeah.
1153
00:39:00,040 –> 00:39:03,040
And, you know, how hard wearing do you need it to be?
1154
00:39:03,040 –> 00:39:10,040
You know, if you’re building a house factory and in family life is a lot different to building
1155
00:39:10,040 –> 00:39:14,040
a house if you’re, you know, just a person living on your own or a couple, you’ve got factory
1156
00:39:14,040 –> 00:39:15,040
and pets or kids or this.
1157
00:39:15,040 –> 00:39:16,040
Yeah.
1158
00:39:16,040 –> 00:39:18,040
You know, you’ve requirements for it a different way.
1159
00:39:18,040 –> 00:39:24,040
And then, like you say, layering in that budget, you know, if your budget was endless, would
1160
00:39:24,040 –> 00:39:25,040
I be digging my own trenches?
1161
00:39:25,040 –> 00:39:26,040
Absolutely.
1162
00:39:26,040 –> 00:39:27,040
I know why I wouldn’t.
1163
00:39:27,040 –> 00:39:30,040
So, it’s all about that push and pull, isn’t it?
1164
00:39:30,040 –> 00:39:31,040
Yeah.
1165
00:39:31,040 –> 00:39:33,040
And then, you know, you need versus what you can do.
1166
00:39:33,040 –> 00:39:34,040
Yeah.
1167
00:39:34,040 –> 00:39:35,040
Yeah, it is.
1168
00:39:35,040 –> 00:39:37,040
And I think, I think, tailoring is good, like, it’s good.
1169
00:39:37,040 –> 00:39:38,040
Yeah.
1170
00:39:38,040 –> 00:39:40,040
So, if you’d never had anything made for you before?
1171
00:39:40,040 –> 00:39:41,040
No.
1172
00:39:41,040 –> 00:39:42,040
Apart from our wedding dress.
1173
00:39:42,040 –> 00:39:43,040
Right.
1174
00:39:43,040 –> 00:39:44,040
Okay.
1175
00:39:44,040 –> 00:39:47,040
Which I sort of designed on the back of thatkin, because I couldn’t find anything that I liked
1176
00:39:47,040 –> 00:39:53,040
and thought that it was all too fussy and too expensive, frankly, for something I’d wear
1177
00:39:53,040 –> 00:39:54,040
once.
1178
00:39:54,040 –> 00:39:55,040
Yeah.
1179
00:39:55,040 –> 00:39:59,040
So, yeah, I had an idea in my head of what I wanted the shape to be and then I took it to
1180
00:39:59,040 –> 00:40:00,040
a woman who made it.
1181
00:40:00,040 –> 00:40:01,040
Yeah.
1182
00:40:01,040 –> 00:40:03,040
So, that’s the only piece that I’ve ever had made for me.
1183
00:40:03,040 –> 00:40:04,040
Yeah.
1184
00:40:04,040 –> 00:40:05,040
A great piece I’ve made, though.
1185
00:40:05,040 –> 00:40:06,040
Yeah, it was.
1186
00:40:06,040 –> 00:40:11,120
And infinitely, you ended up being infinitely cheaper than buying something that somebody else
1187
00:40:11,120 –> 00:40:14,040
has designed, but then you need to tailor it to you.
1188
00:40:14,040 –> 00:40:15,040
Yeah.
1189
00:40:15,040 –> 00:40:16,040
So, yeah.
1190
00:40:16,040 –> 00:40:17,040
It’s funny.
1191
00:40:17,040 –> 00:40:21,640
I think one of the things that she, I’ll be interested in your views on this, if you went,
1192
00:40:21,640 –> 00:40:22,640
did you go wedding dress shopping?
1193
00:40:22,640 –> 00:40:23,640
Yeah.
1194
00:40:23,640 –> 00:40:24,640
Did you go and have a look?
1195
00:40:24,640 –> 00:40:25,640
I hated it, yeah.
1196
00:40:25,640 –> 00:40:32,640
I think a lot of what the wedding, the bride’s market is about is about selling that experience
1197
00:40:32,640 –> 00:40:35,640
rather than the dress itself.
1198
00:40:35,640 –> 00:40:36,640
Yeah.
1199
00:40:36,640 –> 00:40:39,720
You know, it’s about, oh, you need to go looking for your perfect dress.
1200
00:40:39,720 –> 00:40:42,480
The perfect dress is out there somewhere and you can find it.
1201
00:40:42,480 –> 00:40:43,480
Yeah.
1202
00:40:43,480 –> 00:40:45,840
You just got to go to this place and sit down and have a glass of champagne and blah, blah, blah.
1203
00:40:45,840 –> 00:40:51,400
And it should be a lovely experience, but it’s about the search rather than about the,
1204
00:40:51,400 –> 00:40:52,400
the what you want.
1205
00:40:52,400 –> 00:40:53,400
Yeah.
1206
00:40:53,400 –> 00:40:55,400
You know, it’s about sort of matching.
1207
00:40:55,400 –> 00:40:56,400
Yeah.
1208
00:40:56,400 –> 00:41:00,400
It’s about the self to something that’s there, which I think, I think the groom side of things
1209
00:41:00,400 –> 00:41:03,400
gets, is a slightly better deal from that point of the day.
1210
00:41:03,400 –> 00:41:04,400
I totally agree.
1211
00:41:04,400 –> 00:41:08,840
I think men can go into it knowing, because quite often men wear suits at some point in their
1212
00:41:08,840 –> 00:41:09,840
life.
1213
00:41:09,840 –> 00:41:10,840
Yeah.
1214
00:41:10,840 –> 00:41:11,840
So, they have an understanding of what they like in a suit.
1215
00:41:11,840 –> 00:41:12,840
Yeah.
1216
00:41:12,840 –> 00:41:16,480
And then that’s their opportunity to go and be like, you know, I know I like this style and
1217
00:41:16,480 –> 00:41:20,880
I’d like it in this colour and I think it’s probably a bit more, if they’re into it,
1218
00:41:20,880 –> 00:41:21,880
a bit more fun.
1219
00:41:21,880 –> 00:41:23,800
Whereas I found shopping for a wedding dress.
1220
00:41:23,800 –> 00:41:24,800
I honestly hated it.
1221
00:41:24,800 –> 00:41:30,640
Like, at the expectation put upon you to have a moment where you cry and everyone’s like,
1222
00:41:30,640 –> 00:41:31,640
oh, it’s red, isn’t it?
1223
00:41:31,640 –> 00:41:32,640
You know what I’m saying?
1224
00:41:32,640 –> 00:41:33,640
Never had that.
1225
00:41:33,640 –> 00:41:34,640
Never had that.
1226
00:41:34,640 –> 00:41:38,880
And if I was called Princess one more time, I tell you, we’re going above shirtty now.
1227
00:41:38,880 –> 00:41:39,880
I’m like, but, he’s off.
1228
00:41:39,880 –> 00:41:40,880
Gone, gone.
1229
00:41:40,880 –> 00:41:41,880
I’m a full grown woman.
1230
00:41:41,880 –> 00:41:42,880
Gone it out, gone it out.
1231
00:41:42,880 –> 00:41:43,880
So you’re not calling me a Princess?
1232
00:41:43,880 –> 00:41:44,880
No.
1233
00:41:44,880 –> 00:41:45,880
Yeah.
1234
00:41:45,880 –> 00:41:48,880
And also Princess for £3,000.
1235
00:41:48,880 –> 00:41:49,880
Like, just jargon.
1236
00:41:49,880 –> 00:41:50,880
Oh, really?
1237
00:41:50,880 –> 00:41:54,800
No, some people absolutely loved it, but I felt like I was playing dress up.
1238
00:41:54,800 –> 00:41:57,400
Nothing felt authentic to me.
1239
00:41:57,400 –> 00:42:01,960
Like, why do I need to lose every sense of my personal style because it’s my wedding
1240
00:42:01,960 –> 00:42:02,960
day?
1241
00:42:02,960 –> 00:42:09,560
I would never wear a beaded chiffon, so why am I suddenly wearing it on this day?
1242
00:42:09,560 –> 00:42:13,440
And it felt really inauthentic to me.
1243
00:42:13,440 –> 00:42:17,440
And therefore, yeah, it felt, you know, I hated it, I hated it.
1244
00:42:17,440 –> 00:42:18,440
And that’s why we went down this.
1245
00:42:18,440 –> 00:42:20,520
People were like, it’s a dress.
1246
00:42:20,520 –> 00:42:22,200
Let’s take it back to what it is.
1247
00:42:22,200 –> 00:42:23,200
It’s a dress.
1248
00:42:23,200 –> 00:42:27,120
So I just went to Harvey Knicks, I think, and tried on loads of dresses.
1249
00:42:27,120 –> 00:42:28,120
Just dresses, not wedding dresses.
1250
00:42:28,120 –> 00:42:30,160
And I was like, what shapes do I like?
1251
00:42:30,160 –> 00:42:31,160
Yeah.
1252
00:42:31,160 –> 00:42:32,160
And what fits do I like?
1253
00:42:32,160 –> 00:42:33,160
And just made a mental note of that.
1254
00:42:33,160 –> 00:42:36,440
And then went home, I was like, okay, I want it nipped in here, I want it out here.
1255
00:42:36,440 –> 00:42:39,040
And then bought some cheap material and had it made.
1256
00:42:39,040 –> 00:42:40,040
Yeah.
1257
00:42:40,040 –> 00:42:43,320
Because that felt way more me than having something else.
1258
00:42:43,320 –> 00:42:45,080
Yeah, that I would never normally wear.
1259
00:42:45,080 –> 00:42:46,080
Yeah.
1260
00:42:46,080 –> 00:42:51,520
And then there’s a funny thing too, and I find this a lot talking to, you know, the sort
1261
00:42:51,520 –> 00:42:57,480
of future couples, future married couples here is that, and I felt it, as well getting married,
1262
00:42:57,480 –> 00:43:05,560
and it’s, there is a certain amount of conformity to the experience should be this.
1263
00:43:05,560 –> 00:43:08,360
And these people should always be invited.
1264
00:43:08,360 –> 00:43:13,120
And you’ve got to have this, you know, it’s like, there’s a tick box thing that you’ve got
1265
00:43:13,120 –> 00:43:24,920
to go through and, all right, so now it’s time for the, okay.
1266
00:43:24,920 –> 00:43:30,640
Steve, would you like me to go through the explanation?
1267
00:43:30,640 –> 00:43:34,040
So do you want a short one?
1268
00:43:34,040 –> 00:43:35,520
Steve likes the long explanation.
1269
00:43:35,520 –> 00:43:43,040
So this hat, so we had the idea of having off the cuff question.
1270
00:43:43,040 –> 00:43:48,160
Ha ha, look, there’s a great pun off the cuff and it works, you know, so you don’t know
1271
00:43:48,160 –> 00:43:49,880
what this get shirt is going to be about.
1272
00:43:49,880 –> 00:43:51,120
Oh God, the pressure.
1273
00:43:51,120 –> 00:43:57,440
But then we were like, we’ve got all the options, all the different things, they off the cuff
1274
00:43:57,440 –> 00:44:03,320
questions, but how do we get those to the person who’s, who’s got to pick one?
1275
00:44:03,320 –> 00:44:04,320
Yeah.
1276
00:44:04,320 –> 00:44:07,600
Well, we’ll put them in there, bowl of hat, that would be great, but then it doesn’t work
1277
00:44:07,600 –> 00:44:10,960
with the pun anymore because they’re out of hat.
1278
00:44:10,960 –> 00:44:15,920
And Buckston said when, because he was the first person we did it with and we just quickly
1279
00:44:15,920 –> 00:44:19,120
put them in a hat, he said, well, you could pin them to a shirt cuff.
1280
00:44:19,120 –> 00:44:24,280
That didn’t feel right, but it works with, because they’re off the cuff, but we were like,
1281
00:44:24,280 –> 00:44:28,440
now we put them in the bowl of hat and it became such a thing talking to him about it and
1282
00:44:28,440 –> 00:44:33,760
every podcast since then, I’ve had to do this explanation is to why they’re in a hat.
1283
00:44:33,760 –> 00:44:38,000
Sam once said, the explanation drops, she likes the explanation because it comes out different
1284
00:44:38,000 –> 00:44:39,000
every time.
1285
00:44:39,000 –> 00:44:44,080
So, off the cuff, hatty cuff, out of a hatty cuff question.
1286
00:44:44,080 –> 00:44:46,280
Hatty cuff question, sure, rolls off the top.
1287
00:44:46,280 –> 00:44:54,560
So, feel free to, we’ve had lots of different theories actually, Alex, yeah, what, yeah.
1288
00:44:54,560 –> 00:44:56,560
Off the teddy bears.
1289
00:44:56,560 –> 00:44:59,600
Yeah, yeah, and what did Alex Hall say?
1290
00:44:59,600 –> 00:45:02,400
He came up with a few, didn’t he?
1291
00:45:02,400 –> 00:45:04,840
Collard, you’ve been collard or something and there was a, so.
1292
00:45:04,840 –> 00:45:08,120
I love that, it’s a few that have said to me, it’s an off the cuff question and had to
1293
00:45:08,120 –> 00:45:09,760
be a bowl of hat, I would not question it.
1294
00:45:09,760 –> 00:45:11,760
Questioned it, or thought about it.
1295
00:45:11,760 –> 00:45:14,440
No, and probably most people would know.
1296
00:45:14,440 –> 00:45:15,440
No, probably not.
1297
00:45:15,440 –> 00:45:17,440
But, here we are.
1298
00:45:17,440 –> 00:45:18,440
Here we are.
1299
00:45:18,440 –> 00:45:20,640
Yeah, so go for it, let’s.
1300
00:45:20,640 –> 00:45:21,640
Okay.
1301
00:45:21,640 –> 00:45:23,560
The hatty cuff question.
1302
00:45:23,560 –> 00:45:24,560
Off the cuff.
1303
00:45:24,560 –> 00:45:25,560
Oh, chores.
1304
00:45:25,560 –> 00:45:26,560
Chores, alright.
1305
00:45:26,560 –> 00:45:28,960
Okay, so what gets me sure to be about chores?
1306
00:45:28,960 –> 00:45:29,960
Yeah, yeah.
1307
00:45:29,960 –> 00:45:34,760
Okay, I’d like to preface this by saying, I love my husband very much.
1308
00:45:34,760 –> 00:45:47,200
We love your husband, he’s a lovely chap.
1309
00:45:47,200 –> 00:45:52,480
But, he’s very good at chores, though, there is no beef there.
1310
00:45:52,480 –> 00:45:56,840
What my beef is is how he does the chores versus how I do the chores.
1311
00:45:56,840 –> 00:46:04,280
And the example of this is, and this is again, like really nichey, but when we fold, like
1312
00:46:04,280 –> 00:46:08,960
I have all the kids school clothes, like, what roll out drawer.
1313
00:46:08,960 –> 00:46:12,560
Do you know, I was about to say, I’ve got a prediction as to what this is.
1314
00:46:12,560 –> 00:46:13,560
Okay.
1315
00:46:13,560 –> 00:46:16,960
And, I had it in my head, I nearly wrote it on a piece of, yeah, it was one of my magic
1316
00:46:16,960 –> 00:46:17,960
trick when you go hit your-
1317
00:46:17,960 –> 00:46:19,560
And I was gone, and this is what it is.
1318
00:46:19,560 –> 00:46:20,560
Okay.
1319
00:46:20,560 –> 00:46:23,480
And I, I know, you started it now, but I know exactly what you’ve been saying.
1320
00:46:23,480 –> 00:46:28,280
So, in it, I have everything in very organised piles, like these are the PET shirts, these
1321
00:46:28,280 –> 00:46:34,000
are the day t-shirts, one kids jumpers, girls cardigans, you know, everything, so that when
1322
00:46:34,000 –> 00:46:37,640
we roll it in the morning, it’s like, bish, bosh, bosh, like I do it really quickly.
1323
00:46:37,640 –> 00:46:42,680
And then, on the days that Matt has decided to put away the washing, it is, I mean, it’s
1324
00:46:42,680 –> 00:46:47,520
like there’s been a tornado, and it’s just been shoved in the box and shoved back under.
1325
00:46:47,520 –> 00:46:52,120
So, when you pull it out, it’s just kale, so there is no order to this, I can’t do it quickly.
1326
00:46:52,120 –> 00:46:54,920
And it is, it boils my piss, there’s no other way.
1327
00:46:54,920 –> 00:46:58,160
Like I say, we’ve gone beyond shirty and it boils my piss.
1328
00:46:58,160 –> 00:47:00,080
It is pure fucking rage, yeah.
1329
00:47:00,080 –> 00:47:03,960
Pure rage, because if I, great that you do chores, and he is
1330
00:47:03,960 –> 00:47:06,440
great at doing chores, and it’s not a thing where he goes, what chores shall I do?
1331
00:47:06,440 –> 00:47:09,720
Like he is a self-serving man, perfect.
1332
00:47:09,720 –> 00:47:14,040
But there is just certain blips, certain blind spots where it’s like, if you do it shit,
1333
00:47:14,040 –> 00:47:15,040
I’d rather you do it.
1334
00:47:15,040 –> 00:47:16,040
Didn’t do it.
1335
00:47:16,040 –> 00:47:19,040
But then, the phrase I keep saying is weaponising competence.
1336
00:47:19,040 –> 00:47:21,040
No, you don’t get away with that, just do it better.
1337
00:47:21,040 –> 00:47:22,040
Just do it better.
1338
00:47:22,040 –> 00:47:26,840
And that is my get shirty/get shirty chore of the calf.
1339
00:47:26,840 –> 00:47:28,840
Is that where you were going?
1340
00:47:28,840 –> 00:47:32,840
Yeah, before you even start, you said your chores, and when you went, I love my husband
1341
00:47:32,840 –> 00:47:37,160
very much, in my head I went and it’s folding motion.
1342
00:47:37,160 –> 00:47:39,160
Because I’m not allowed to fold washing.
1343
00:47:39,160 –> 00:47:40,160
Are you not?
1344
00:47:40,160 –> 00:47:41,160
No.
1345
00:47:41,160 –> 00:47:42,920
Why can’t you just fold it better?
1346
00:47:42,920 –> 00:47:45,160
You must fold all the time, you’re a tailor.
1347
00:47:45,160 –> 00:47:46,160
Yeah.
1348
00:47:46,160 –> 00:47:49,160
But I fold it the way I like it folded.
1349
00:47:49,160 –> 00:47:50,160
Okay.
1350
00:47:50,160 –> 00:47:52,160
Which is not the right way to fold it.
1351
00:47:52,160 –> 00:47:54,520
Oh, okay, well that’s, okay, that’s just a different style.
1352
00:47:54,520 –> 00:47:59,480
It might be slightly shitter, way of folding it.
1353
00:47:59,480 –> 00:48:02,640
But I think it’s more efficient and equally as good.
1354
00:48:02,640 –> 00:48:03,640
Okay.
1355
00:48:03,640 –> 00:48:04,640
But I’m not as organised with it.
1356
00:48:04,640 –> 00:48:09,240
Yeah, it’s the organisation, but I don’t care about neat folds, just there’s obvious piles,
1357
00:48:09,240 –> 00:48:11,480
let’s follow the system, please.
1358
00:48:11,480 –> 00:48:12,480
Yeah.
1359
00:48:12,480 –> 00:48:13,480
Etica.
1360
00:48:13,480 –> 00:48:14,480
Etica.
1361
00:48:14,480 –> 00:48:15,480
Stay in the right lane.
1362
00:48:15,480 –> 00:48:16,480
Etica.
1363
00:48:16,480 –> 00:48:17,480
I know, right lane.
1364
00:48:17,480 –> 00:48:21,480
I sound very straight and like, highly strained, don’t I?
1365
00:48:21,480 –> 00:48:22,480
Oh, God.
1366
00:48:22,480 –> 00:48:24,480
You leave from the washing.
1367
00:48:24,480 –> 00:48:30,600
Yeah, it’s one of those, again, low eye, as fair, that is fair.
1368
00:48:30,600 –> 00:48:34,800
But if it would just like, I don’t like the way they look in the cupboard, and that’s
1369
00:48:34,800 –> 00:48:35,800
a different thing.
1370
00:48:35,800 –> 00:48:36,800
Yeah.
1371
00:48:36,800 –> 00:48:38,200
But if it’s mucking up your mornings.
1372
00:48:38,200 –> 00:48:39,200
Yeah, yeah.
1373
00:48:39,200 –> 00:48:43,400
People all, he’ll like my system when it’s working in his favour.
1374
00:48:43,400 –> 00:48:44,400
Yeah.
1375
00:48:44,400 –> 00:48:47,520
In the morning when we’ve got three minutes to get in the car and get school, that system
1376
00:48:47,520 –> 00:48:48,640
really comes into its own business.
1377
00:48:48,640 –> 00:48:49,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1378
00:48:49,640 –> 00:48:51,040
So let’s just to buy a system, please.
1379
00:48:51,040 –> 00:48:52,040
Yeah.
1380
00:48:52,040 –> 00:48:55,480
So, yeah, so it’s the lack of following what works.
1381
00:48:55,480 –> 00:48:56,480
Yeah.
1382
00:48:56,480 –> 00:48:57,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1383
00:48:57,480 –> 00:48:58,480
That’s fair.
1384
00:48:58,480 –> 00:49:00,480
Yeah, and I think I just fold washing badly.
1385
00:49:00,480 –> 00:49:03,400
But, in fairness, so here, I don’t have to fold anything.
1386
00:49:03,400 –> 00:49:04,400
Do you not?
1387
00:49:04,400 –> 00:49:05,400
I guess hang it.
1388
00:49:05,400 –> 00:49:06,400
I don’t know.
1389
00:49:06,400 –> 00:49:07,400
I guess hang it.
1390
00:49:07,400 –> 00:49:08,400
I guess it goes on a hang-out.
1391
00:49:08,400 –> 00:49:09,400
Yeah.
1392
00:49:09,400 –> 00:49:10,400
Goes on a mannequin.
1393
00:49:10,400 –> 00:49:11,400
True.
1394
00:49:11,400 –> 00:49:12,400
What about material?
1395
00:49:12,400 –> 00:49:13,400
Yeah, sometimes.
1396
00:49:13,400 –> 00:49:14,400
But yeah, that will go on boards and rolls.
1397
00:49:14,400 –> 00:49:15,400
Okay.
1398
00:49:15,400 –> 00:49:16,400
It gets turned back on the shelf.
1399
00:49:16,400 –> 00:49:17,400
That’s bad, it.
1400
00:49:17,400 –> 00:49:20,440
So yeah, I don’t, very often have to fold things.
1401
00:49:20,440 –> 00:49:21,440
No.
1402
00:49:21,440 –> 00:49:26,320
I can imagine though, in your trade that you don’t just do the scramble up, you’re like
1403
00:49:26,320 –> 00:49:29,240
you say your system isn’t that it’s, you don’t do it, you just do it in a different
1404
00:49:29,240 –> 00:49:30,240
way.
1405
00:49:30,240 –> 00:49:32,600
I imagine you’d have a different aspect of garment in that way.
1406
00:49:32,600 –> 00:49:33,600
No.
1407
00:49:33,600 –> 00:49:34,600
No, do you know what?
1408
00:49:34,600 –> 00:49:35,600
Do you know what?
1409
00:49:35,600 –> 00:49:42,640
Never ceases to amaze me is men of a certain age who don’t know how to put trousers on a hang-out.
1410
00:49:42,640 –> 00:49:43,640
Oh, really?
1411
00:49:43,640 –> 00:49:44,640
Yeah.
1412
00:49:44,640 –> 00:49:45,640
Do I know how to put trousers on a hang-out?
1413
00:49:45,640 –> 00:49:46,640
Oh, I don’t know.
1414
00:49:46,640 –> 00:49:47,640
I’ll have to give you a hand.
1415
00:49:47,640 –> 00:49:50,840
Is it you pull the zip out forward?
1416
00:49:50,840 –> 00:49:52,480
So it’s that way rather than in half?
1417
00:49:52,480 –> 00:49:54,840
Well, I’d further zip, not being done up.
1418
00:49:54,840 –> 00:49:55,840
Yeah.
1419
00:49:55,840 –> 00:49:57,640
And the front of the trousers folded in.
1420
00:49:57,640 –> 00:49:58,640
Folded in, okay.
1421
00:49:58,640 –> 00:50:00,440
I think it keeps a line on the hanger better.
1422
00:50:00,440 –> 00:50:01,440
There we go.
1423
00:50:01,440 –> 00:50:03,440
For the benefit of the list that sounds like getting that up here at Trapeze.
1424
00:50:03,440 –> 00:50:04,440
Yeah.
1425
00:50:04,440 –> 00:50:08,920
You’ll know there’s a chap who’s never put trousers on hangers because he’ll come out and
1426
00:50:08,920 –> 00:50:12,240
go, oh, I’ve just left them on the, I’m the hanger.
1427
00:50:12,240 –> 00:50:13,240
I’ve left them on the chair through there.
1428
00:50:13,240 –> 00:50:14,240
Oh, you can.
1429
00:50:14,240 –> 00:50:15,240
Is that okay?
1430
00:50:15,240 –> 00:50:16,240
Or I’ve put them on the hook.
1431
00:50:16,240 –> 00:50:17,240
Is that okay?
1432
00:50:17,240 –> 00:50:22,040
Or they’ll put them on the hanger in a weird way.
1433
00:50:22,040 –> 00:50:23,040
Okay.
1434
00:50:23,040 –> 00:50:26,200
So this is what I’m being shown here is what I would expect to pick up from a dry
1435
00:50:26,200 –> 00:50:30,000
cleaners and I would never manufacture again myself.
1436
00:50:30,000 –> 00:50:31,000
Okay.
1437
00:50:31,000 –> 00:50:38,400
So, cuff, flat cuff to flat cuff, hang them down and then pull them through the hanger so
1438
00:50:38,400 –> 00:50:40,920
that the creases are flat.
1439
00:50:40,920 –> 00:50:41,920
Creases at the front.
1440
00:50:41,920 –> 00:50:42,920
Yeah.
1441
00:50:42,920 –> 00:50:43,920
Yeah, you see it?
1442
00:50:43,920 –> 00:50:44,920
I’d always have the creases upside.
1443
00:50:44,920 –> 00:50:45,920
Yeah, I don’t know how to do that.
1444
00:50:45,920 –> 00:50:46,920
Oh.
1445
00:50:46,920 –> 00:50:47,920
Yeah, there we are.
1446
00:50:47,920 –> 00:50:49,920
Or perhaps that’s me being overly…
1447
00:50:49,920 –> 00:50:54,240
Well, I also think the quality of the garments you’re hanging, doesn’t match the quality
1448
00:50:54,240 –> 00:50:56,000
of the garments I’m hanging at home.
1449
00:50:56,000 –> 00:50:59,200
Yeah, but if it’s a pair of jeans, you’ve been hanging a pair of jeans like that.
1450
00:50:59,200 –> 00:51:00,200
I roll my jeans.
1451
00:51:00,200 –> 00:51:02,040
Yeah, well that’s good too.
1452
00:51:02,040 –> 00:51:06,760
But if it’s got a crease pressed in the front, you want to keep that crease.
1453
00:51:06,760 –> 00:51:08,920
Yeah, I’ve never been able to do that and now I know why.
1454
00:51:08,920 –> 00:51:10,920
Well, we can show you.
1455
00:51:10,920 –> 00:51:11,920
Okay, thanks.
1456
00:51:11,920 –> 00:51:15,560
But yeah, I just thought, well, perhaps that was just, you know, even the school chairs
1457
00:51:15,560 –> 00:51:17,800
just went on a hanger like that.
1458
00:51:17,800 –> 00:51:18,800
Wow.
1459
00:51:18,800 –> 00:51:23,960
Or following that and over the back of a chair so that they stayed nice for the next day.
1460
00:51:23,960 –> 00:51:24,960
Yeah, you’re proper.
1461
00:51:24,960 –> 00:51:25,960
That’s proper.
1462
00:51:25,960 –> 00:51:26,960
Is it?
1463
00:51:26,960 –> 00:51:27,960
Yeah, that is proper.
1464
00:51:27,960 –> 00:51:29,480
Yeah, and the sun’s a bit like that.
1465
00:51:29,480 –> 00:51:31,800
Is that one of my special things?
1466
00:51:31,800 –> 00:51:32,800
Oh, right.
1467
00:51:32,800 –> 00:51:33,800
I thought you were doing that.
1468
00:51:33,800 –> 00:51:34,800
I’ve got a knowing nod.
1469
00:51:34,800 –> 00:51:35,800
Oh, yeah.
1470
00:51:35,800 –> 00:51:36,800
He likes, yeah.
1471
00:51:36,800 –> 00:51:38,320
He presses his school trousers, though.
1472
00:51:38,320 –> 00:51:39,320
Does he?
1473
00:51:39,320 –> 00:51:41,000
But he’s a tailor, some I suppose, isn’t he?
1474
00:51:41,000 –> 00:51:42,000
Yeah.
1475
00:51:42,000 –> 00:51:44,000
And polishes his school shoes.
1476
00:51:44,000 –> 00:51:45,000
Oh, wow.
1477
00:51:45,000 –> 00:51:46,000
Not nearly every night.
1478
00:51:46,000 –> 00:51:47,000
Are you kidding?
1479
00:51:47,000 –> 00:51:48,000
How would he see?
1480
00:51:48,000 –> 00:51:49,000
30s, just turned 30.
1481
00:51:49,000 –> 00:51:50,000
Wow.
1482
00:51:50,000 –> 00:51:51,000
Yeah.
1483
00:51:51,000 –> 00:51:52,000
But I respect it.
1484
00:51:52,000 –> 00:51:53,000
But he likes…
1485
00:51:53,000 –> 00:51:54,000
Proper.
1486
00:51:54,000 –> 00:51:55,000
And the process is…
1487
00:51:55,000 –> 00:51:56,000
That’s the look.
1488
00:51:56,000 –> 00:51:57,000
Yeah, likes to look…
1489
00:51:57,000 –> 00:51:58,000
Yeah.
1490
00:51:58,000 –> 00:51:59,000
Correct, I suppose.
1491
00:51:59,000 –> 00:52:00,000
Oh, I’ve got the opposite.
1492
00:52:00,000 –> 00:52:01,000
Yeah.
1493
00:52:01,000 –> 00:52:03,560
My sun wears everything inside out and back to fun, doesn’t care.
1494
00:52:03,560 –> 00:52:05,760
Yeah, but that’s good, too, because that’s sort of…
1495
00:52:05,760 –> 00:52:06,760
Yeah, it’s…
1496
00:52:06,760 –> 00:52:07,760
It was what…
1497
00:52:07,760 –> 00:52:08,760
It’s the same.
1498
00:52:08,760 –> 00:52:09,760
It’s what…
1499
00:52:09,760 –> 00:52:11,280
Or wearing any clothes is what you feel…
1500
00:52:11,280 –> 00:52:12,280
Yes.
1501
00:52:12,280 –> 00:52:13,280
Right in.
1502
00:52:13,280 –> 00:52:14,280
You know?
1503
00:52:14,280 –> 00:52:15,280
Yes.
1504
00:52:15,280 –> 00:52:16,280
You know?
1505
00:52:16,280 –> 00:52:17,280
There is…
1506
00:52:17,280 –> 00:52:18,280
I think Tailoring can be a little bit wrong in writing, you know?
1507
00:52:18,280 –> 00:52:19,280
Yeah.
1508
00:52:19,280 –> 00:52:20,280
You shouldn’t do this.
1509
00:52:20,280 –> 00:52:22,520
And only have to do the top button, then never do the bottom button up on a waistcoat
1510
00:52:22,520 –> 00:52:23,520
and all these sorts of things.
1511
00:52:23,520 –> 00:52:26,080
And there is a place for that if that’s what you like.
1512
00:52:26,080 –> 00:52:27,080
Yes.
1513
00:52:27,080 –> 00:52:28,080
If you’re…
1514
00:52:28,080 –> 00:52:33,440
If it suits you to want to conform in those ways to style, that’s great.
1515
00:52:33,440 –> 00:52:37,640
But style and fashion, they’re different things and find your own style, find your own
1516
00:52:37,640 –> 00:52:39,320
style, then it can be whatever you like.
1517
00:52:39,320 –> 00:52:41,360
Where it inside out, back to fun, that’s great.
1518
00:52:41,360 –> 00:52:43,560
If that’s how you feel best in it.
1519
00:52:43,560 –> 00:52:44,560
That’s the best day, but…
1520
00:52:44,560 –> 00:52:46,360
Yeah, I like that.
1521
00:52:46,360 –> 00:52:48,560
So, yeah, so there you go.
1522
00:52:48,560 –> 00:52:49,560
But yeah, so…
1523
00:52:49,560 –> 00:52:50,560
Yeah, chores…
1524
00:52:50,560 –> 00:52:51,560
That was a good one.
1525
00:52:51,560 –> 00:52:52,560
Okay.
1526
00:52:52,560 –> 00:52:53,560
That was a good one.
1527
00:52:53,560 –> 00:52:54,560
Oh, yeah, no problem.
1528
00:52:54,560 –> 00:52:55,560
I don’t know.
1529
00:52:55,560 –> 00:52:57,560
I always sort of sit like I judge on these things.
1530
00:52:57,560 –> 00:52:58,560
I go, “Yes, that’s right.
1531
00:52:58,560 –> 00:53:00,800
You’re allowed that one, and you’re not allowed this one.”
1532
00:53:00,800 –> 00:53:01,800
But, you know…
1533
00:53:01,800 –> 00:53:04,960
But that’s definitely one I’ll agree with.
1534
00:53:04,960 –> 00:53:05,960
Okay.
1535
00:53:05,960 –> 00:53:09,320
I will put my hand up and say, “I am this sock pair, though.”
1536
00:53:09,320 –> 00:53:10,320
Oh, yeah.
1537
00:53:10,320 –> 00:53:12,920
“I am the person who is in charge of pairing socks.”
1538
00:53:12,920 –> 00:53:13,920
Do you know what my mum did?
1539
00:53:13,920 –> 00:53:15,240
So, I come from a big family.
1540
00:53:15,240 –> 00:53:17,440
I’m one of four kids.
1541
00:53:17,440 –> 00:53:18,440
And my mum…
1542
00:53:18,440 –> 00:53:20,360
I can’t remember what age we all were.
1543
00:53:20,360 –> 00:53:22,680
But definitely, like, beginning secondary school.
1544
00:53:22,680 –> 00:53:25,320
So, you know, 10, 11, 12, 13, age.
1545
00:53:25,320 –> 00:53:27,320
She got rid of all the socks in the house.
1546
00:53:27,320 –> 00:53:28,320
Yeah.
1547
00:53:28,320 –> 00:53:29,840
And bought, like, 20, probably more than that.
1548
00:53:29,840 –> 00:53:32,160
40 pairs of black size eight socks.
1549
00:53:32,160 –> 00:53:33,640
And that’s all anyone in the house for…
1550
00:53:33,640 –> 00:53:34,640
I really?
1551
00:53:34,640 –> 00:53:36,320
Yeah, mum, dad, me and my three brothers.
1552
00:53:36,320 –> 00:53:38,080
Because then there was never an odd sock in the house.
1553
00:53:38,080 –> 00:53:39,080
Yeah.
1554
00:53:39,080 –> 00:53:40,080
And that’s…
1555
00:53:40,080 –> 00:53:41,080
I respect it.
1556
00:53:41,080 –> 00:53:42,080
That’s a pretty good sister, right?
1557
00:53:42,080 –> 00:53:43,080
Is it?
1558
00:53:43,080 –> 00:53:44,080
Isn’t it?
1559
00:53:44,080 –> 00:53:47,680
I’d go for the motifs socks with a little motif on the side.
1560
00:53:47,680 –> 00:53:49,080
And then they’re easy to pair.
1561
00:53:49,080 –> 00:53:50,800
And you know who socks are, who is?
1562
00:53:50,800 –> 00:53:51,800
I’m interesting, OK.
1563
00:53:51,800 –> 00:53:52,800
I think I’m wearing…
1564
00:53:52,800 –> 00:53:53,800
Oh, now I’ve got spotty’s on today.
1565
00:53:53,800 –> 00:53:57,000
I was going to say, I’ll just think I’m wearing Thor socks today.
1566
00:53:57,000 –> 00:53:59,000
The Thor’s hammer on the side, but…
1567
00:53:59,000 –> 00:54:00,000
Always a child.
1568
00:54:00,000 –> 00:54:02,440
Yeah, but the black sock theory is good.
1569
00:54:02,440 –> 00:54:04,280
Everyone’s same size, everyone’s same colour.
1570
00:54:04,280 –> 00:54:05,280
Yeah.
1571
00:54:05,280 –> 00:54:07,280
I presume you’re all size eight.
1572
00:54:07,280 –> 00:54:08,280
It didn’t matter.
1573
00:54:08,280 –> 00:54:09,280
I really…
1574
00:54:09,280 –> 00:54:10,280
I like the day.
1575
00:54:10,280 –> 00:54:11,280
Yeah.
1576
00:54:11,280 –> 00:54:12,280
That’s a sort of good system.
1577
00:54:12,280 –> 00:54:13,280
Yeah.
1578
00:54:13,280 –> 00:54:15,280
I think everyone’s roughly at size eight, isn’t it?
1579
00:54:15,280 –> 00:54:17,280
Someone in size 10 could wear a size eight.
1580
00:54:17,280 –> 00:54:18,280
Someone is all size six.
1581
00:54:18,280 –> 00:54:19,280
Yeah, no.
1582
00:54:19,280 –> 00:54:21,280
No, you were a proper sock man.
1583
00:54:21,280 –> 00:54:23,880
Well, these two will know what’s happening now.
1584
00:54:23,880 –> 00:54:25,880
We’ve started talking about socks.
1585
00:54:25,880 –> 00:54:26,880
Is it supposed socks happen?
1586
00:54:26,880 –> 00:54:27,880
Oh, is he?
1587
00:54:27,880 –> 00:54:28,880
He is.
1588
00:54:28,880 –> 00:54:29,880
A card and a sock puller up a…
1589
00:54:29,880 –> 00:54:30,880
Yeah.
1590
00:54:30,880 –> 00:54:31,880
Can you not get braces?
1591
00:54:31,880 –> 00:54:33,880
Yeah, I don’t want to go down that route.
1592
00:54:33,880 –> 00:54:34,880
Socks, that’s what it’s called.
1593
00:54:34,880 –> 00:54:36,880
Socks feel weird.
1594
00:54:36,880 –> 00:54:37,880
So now we’ve said socks.
1595
00:54:37,880 –> 00:54:38,880
You’re not thinking about it.
1596
00:54:38,880 –> 00:54:39,880
Socks are my English again.
1597
00:54:39,880 –> 00:54:40,880
What, what?
1598
00:54:40,880 –> 00:54:41,880
Point socks are…
1599
00:54:41,880 –> 00:54:42,880
So you’re…
1600
00:54:42,880 –> 00:54:43,880
I’m going to try and resist it.
1601
00:54:43,880 –> 00:54:45,880
But if a sock’s hanging off the end of my toes,
1602
00:54:45,880 –> 00:54:46,880
Scrub it at the end of my feet, that’s it.
1603
00:54:46,880 –> 00:54:47,880
That’s like that.
1604
00:54:47,880 –> 00:54:48,880
If that’s…
1605
00:54:48,880 –> 00:54:49,880
My heels…
1606
00:54:49,880 –> 00:54:50,880
Yeah.
1607
00:54:50,880 –> 00:54:52,280
All the way down, slightly round to the sock, they have to come off,
1608
00:54:52,280 –> 00:54:53,280
all the way back on.
1609
00:54:53,280 –> 00:54:54,280
That’s like that.
1610
00:54:54,280 –> 00:54:55,780
And he gets angry if you see people in our house with the socks like that.
1611
00:54:55,780 –> 00:54:56,780
We call them…
1612
00:54:56,780 –> 00:54:57,780
I don’t know why, “Melly socks.”
1613
00:54:57,780 –> 00:54:58,780
He’s like, “Oh, you’ve got belly socks.
1614
00:54:58,780 –> 00:54:59,780
You’ve got to change your socks.”
1615
00:54:59,780 –> 00:55:01,780
And none of us care, but he really calls.
1616
00:55:01,780 –> 00:55:02,780
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1617
00:55:02,780 –> 00:55:06,280
Yeah, if I’m wearing shorts, I can roll the socks down.
1618
00:55:06,280 –> 00:55:07,280
Yeah.
1619
00:55:07,280 –> 00:55:10,120
If I’m wearing shorts, I can roll them down.
1620
00:55:10,120 –> 00:55:13,680
But if I’m wearing proper tires, I’ve got to be pulled up.
1621
00:55:13,680 –> 00:55:14,680
Oh.
1622
00:55:14,680 –> 00:55:15,680
Yeah.
1623
00:55:15,680 –> 00:55:16,680
It’s weird, isn’t it?
1624
00:55:16,680 –> 00:55:17,680
We’ve learnt some English today.
1625
00:55:17,680 –> 00:55:19,680
Don’t, yeah, don’t like them not feel uncomfortable.
1626
00:55:19,680 –> 00:55:20,680
Yeah.
1627
00:55:20,680 –> 00:55:23,280
And even have to put the left sock on first.
1628
00:55:23,280 –> 00:55:24,280
Wow.
1629
00:55:24,280 –> 00:55:25,280
Yeah.
1630
00:55:25,280 –> 00:55:26,280
Okay.
1631
00:55:26,280 –> 00:55:27,280
We’ve really touched on something here with socks, haven’t we?
1632
00:55:27,280 –> 00:55:28,280
Yeah.
1633
00:55:28,280 –> 00:55:29,280
Yeah.
1634
00:55:29,280 –> 00:55:30,280
And I…
1635
00:55:30,280 –> 00:55:31,280
Yeah.
1636
00:55:31,280 –> 00:55:32,280
They are literally going…
1637
00:55:32,280 –> 00:55:33,280
Bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop-bop.
1638
00:55:33,280 –> 00:55:34,280
My ankle’s all that it’s horrible.
1639
00:55:34,280 –> 00:55:36,280
So on that note, I’m going to…
1640
00:55:36,280 –> 00:55:37,280
Why?
1641
00:55:37,280 –> 00:55:38,280
I’m going to…
1642
00:55:38,280 –> 00:55:39,280
I’m wearing a knuckle pull with socks.
1643
00:55:39,280 –> 00:55:40,280
I’m sad.
1644
00:55:40,280 –> 00:55:42,280
So thank you so much.
1645
00:55:42,280 –> 00:55:43,280
I really enjoyed that.
1646
00:55:43,280 –> 00:55:44,280
Pleasure.
1647
00:55:44,280 –> 00:55:45,280
It was great.
1648
00:55:45,280 –> 00:55:47,280
And I look forward to seeing your sort of…
1649
00:55:47,280 –> 00:55:49,880
Not grand designs, whatever you are.
1650
00:55:49,880 –> 00:55:50,880
What are you going to call your house, programme?
1651
00:55:50,880 –> 00:55:51,880
I don’t know.
1652
00:55:51,880 –> 00:55:52,880
Good point, I’ll have a think.
1653
00:55:52,880 –> 00:55:53,880
Yeah.
1654
00:55:53,880 –> 00:55:54,880
I’ll have a think.
1655
00:55:54,880 –> 00:55:55,880
That’s great.
1656
00:55:55,880 –> 00:55:56,880
But thank you so much for coming on.
1657
00:55:56,880 –> 00:55:57,880
Get sure to…
1658
00:55:57,880 –> 00:55:58,880
And look forward to…
1659
00:55:58,880 –> 00:56:00,880
Sorting your shirt out for you.
1660
00:56:00,880 –> 00:56:01,880
Yeah.
1661
00:56:01,880 –> 00:56:02,880
Thank you so much, haven’t we?
1662
00:56:02,880 –> 00:56:16,880
[Music]
1663
00:56:16,880 –> 00:56:21,480
Do you see what I mean?
1664
00:56:21,480 –> 00:56:24,480
Alex really knew what these Gid shirties were going to be.
1665
00:56:24,480 –> 00:56:26,480
And I really like that.
1666
00:56:26,480 –> 00:56:29,480
A massive thank you to Alex for coming on the podcast.
1667
00:56:29,480 –> 00:56:34,480
Really great to talk to you and I hope we get to speak more again in the future.
1668
00:56:34,480 –> 00:56:39,680
Big thank you as always going out to Stuart Wilson for the editing and for the production.
1669
00:56:39,680 –> 00:56:44,880
To Sam, as always, for keeping us on track and making sure that the things get done,
1670
00:56:44,880 –> 00:56:49,480
the need to get done and to DatHazza for the music as always.
1671
00:56:49,480 –> 00:56:52,480
I’m your host, another Stuart.
1672
00:56:52,480 –> 00:56:55,480
Until next time, do try not to get too shirty.
1673
00:56:55,480 –> 00:57:25,080
[Music]
1674
00:57:25,080 –> 00:57:35,280
Let’s get shirty.
1675
00:57:35,280 –> 00:57:36,280
Quick pull your socks up.
